To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

I was an admirer of George Knapp as it was an article of his that I read at the start of this century that got me into the subject.
I was also cautiously optimistic about TTSA.
However due to Knapps continuing support of Lazar and TTSA promoting his book I find myself once again disillusioned by the whole thing.
I check out Alien Expanse most mornings but my interest is diminishing by the day.
Knapp is a good writer and has good connections. I did enjoy his work on the Skinwalker Ranch case, including the book he co-wrote. Up until a few years ago, he seemed to be avoiding any comment on Lazar, or at least it seemed like that to me. In fact, it was not until '08 or so that I saw his comments about Lazar being well known at the gate to Los Alamos (or wherever it was), and figured it was just part of his having to walk a fine line in order to keep his career on track. He needed to maintain some level of plausible deniability, or so I assumed. I figured he learned an important lesson when Lazar was expeditiously outed as a fraud, and was more careful now.

We have entered an era in which any idea, scheme, line of bullshit or brain-dead ideology is judged not on truth or even usefulness, but by how much cash can be squeezed out of it. Knapp could easily have maintained his "no comment" or at least "no comment of any substance" line, but now I see him lined up at the trough. It is disgusting. He knows better. He may have had to be self-deluded into participating in furthering a sleazy fraud, but he certainly knows better. He is not stupid.

The whole field of the paranormal, if that's even a valid way to lump so many nonconforming bits of reality together, has been losing its charm for me for several years now. I guess I should say the whole field of the paranormal as it exists in the online idiosphere has been losing its charm. I used to check a few dozen sites at least weekly; now there are just a few I bother with at all. We are winning the race to the bottom. Whoohoo.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
I’ve noticed that over the past couple of years when TTSA and its various partners get caught deceiving or pulling some nonsense, there seems to be this act of forgiveness from the public. They should know better but we’ll wait to see what else comes out. I have thought there has been a certain stench coming from DeLonge, Knapp etc. I suspect much of what they do these days. The Lazar book was icing on the cake for me.
 

nivek

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I was an admirer of George Knapp as it was an article of his that I read at the start of this century that got me into the subject.
I was also cautiously optimistic about TTSA.
However due to Knapps continuing support of Lazar and TTSA promoting his book I find myself once again disillusioned by the whole thing.
I check out Alien Expanse most mornings but my interest is diminishing by the day.

My life's work has been more focused on esoteric work, for my own future but along that path there were many challenges and obstacles which seemed like attempts to derail my goals, if I was to apply some conspiracy to it lol...Some of those experiences were quite strange, paranormal, and also seemingly alien in nature, believe it or not, as well as many challenges of a terrestrial nature...I was determined though and persevered, I had to, there are points of no return so after crossing some 'bridges' there was no going back, literally I would not be here today otherwise...

That being said, its my own experiences, even those in these recent times that keeps these topics relevant in my life, to share with others and assist others looking for answers...There are charlatans, conmen, scammers that pop up in every field, every community, every subject that exists, no matter if its ufology, spirituality, or a social community...I just try to see things as they are, keeping my cup half full, identify the deceptive ones like Lazar, but they don't dissolve my interest or participation in these subjects...I'm saddened by how TTSA are going about things, but irregardless of them or the likes of Lazar, visitations to our planet by intelligent alien species are not ceasing, paranormal activities on this world continue to occur, sooner or later we will find out the truth of these things, and the truth will always come out on those who wish to deceive and con the public, the charlatans will not stop my work and my assistance helping others find out the answers they seek...I am here not just for myself...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
My 'origin story' with UFOs as I've related here started with a trusted relative 'pulling my leg' (a.k.a lying for no good reason) and the verdammit Hudson Valley Wave. Both of which have served to hone my skepticism like Hanzo steel.
TTSA is just another chapter; UFOlogy 21st century style. Something just didn't sit right with me and their story. I have grown tired of the notion that we need someone or a group to explain it all, especially if there's money involved.

I haven't tired of the notion that extraterrestrial vehicles are passing through our atmosphere. I really liked a recent clip posted showing an electrician on a job who found (Big)foot prints. Maybe it's all the quality time I've spent with electricians on all sorts of job sites that made me think somebody like that will one day turn up evidence we won't quibble over. Somebody in the right place at the right time. My hopes are not on radar data or (admittedly fascinating) fighter pilot encounters. It's on something like Father Gill or Joe Simonton or the Ariel school kids with the addition of conclusive evidence. Something out of left field that sounds impossible but is undeniable and completely out of the realm of the military, government, and credentialed self-appointed experts. Not holding my breath for that but if I had a wish list that would be on it.
 
My life's work has been more focused on esoteric work, for my own future but along that path there were many challenges and obstacles which seemed like attempts to derail my goals, if I was to apply some conspiracy to it lol...Some of those experiences were quite strange, paranormal, and also seemingly alien in nature, believe it or not, as well as many challenges of a terrestrial nature...I was determined though and persevered, I had to, there are points of no return so after crossing some 'bridges' there was no going back, literally I would not be here today otherwise...

That being said, its my own experiences, even those in these recent times that keeps these topics relevant in my life, to share with others and assist others looking for answers...There are charlatans, conmen, scammers that pop up in every field, every community, every subject that exists, no matter if its ufology, spirituality, or a social community...I just try to see things as they are, keeping my cup half full, identify the deceptive ones like Lazar, but they don't dissolve my interest or participation in these subjects...I'm saddened by how TTSA are going about things, but irregardless of them or the likes of Lazar, visitations to our planet by intelligent alien species are not ceasing, paranormal activities on this world continue to occur, sooner or later we will find out the truth of these things, and the truth will always come out on those who wish to deceive and con the public, the charlatans will not stop my work and my assistance helping others find out the answers they seek...I am here not just for myself...

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From one of my favorite sites:

“Truth gets well if she is run over by a locomotive, while error dies of lockjaw if she scratches her finger” – William Cullen Bryant
 

nivek

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nivek

As Above So Below
Here's a write up on this from Popular Mechanics with that catchphrase statement at the end, 'we’re just going to have to wait and see'...

The Army and a UFO Group Are Investigating Mysterious Technology

The U.S. Army and a prominent UFO research group are teaming up to investigate mysterious technology, but won’t come out and say where the tech comes from.

To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science, the organization led by former Blink-182 member Tom DeLonge, will work with the Army to “characterize” technology under the organization’s control, and then use the tech to improve military vehicles. We have a lot of questions about this bizarre partnership, starting with the most important: Where did the technology come from?

To The Stars, which released the infamous Navy-confirmed UFO videos, made the announcement today on its website, saying it has entered into a “Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to advance TTSA’s materiel and technology innovations in order to develop enhanced capabilities for Army ground vehicles.”

CRADAs are a form of joint research agreement between an agency of the federal government and research organizations, particularly academia, in which the feds provide “laboratories ... personnel, facilities, equipment or other resources with or without reimbursement.”

According to multiple definitions of CRADAs on federal websites, the transfer of federal funding is prohibited.

TTSA describes its contribution to the agreement as “technology solutions” that include “material science, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, beamed energy propulsion, and active camouflage.”

The Army will provide “laboratories, expertise, support, and resources to help characterize the technologies and its applications.”

“Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities,” said Dr. Joseph Cannon of Army Futures Command in the press release.

“At the Army's Ground Vehicle Systems Center, we look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.”

Where did TTSA’s impressive list of technology come from? The implicit answer is: UFOs, also known as Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAPs).

UFO/UAP traditionally means anything we spot in the sky that's unusual. But here's the thing: Swamp gas and Venus sightings don't leave behind technology that's so advanced, it needs to be "characterized" by the federal government.

Whatever this technology is, and even To The Stars apparently isn't quite sure, it comes from what we commonly call flying saucers.

According to The New York Times, the Pentagon spent $22 million between 2008 and 2011 on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), an organization tasked with looking into UFOs. The program reportedly stored “metal alloys and other materials" that Luis Elizondo, then the director of the AATIP and now the director of global security and special programs at To The Stars, said had been "recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena."

In July, we reported that TTSA acquired “several pieces of metamaterials” sourced from “an advanced aerospace vehicle of unknown origin.” The organization claims it can track ownership of the materials all the way back to the mid-1990s. Exactly where the materials came from is anyone's guess.

It’s hard to know what to make of all this. The Army obviously thinks there's something worth sticking its reputation out for, but there isn't any evidence available to the public to justify its association with a UFO research group.

Funding research into UFOs is one thing, and the U.S. government has done it multiple times over the past 70 years. Expecting actual technology samples from UFOs is another thing. Agreeing to do research and development work on them is something else entirely.

If—and it’s a big if—this technology could be ported over to the military, could it give U.S. troops an advantage on the battlefield? Yes, although at best, that advantage might be no better than giving a caveman’s spear a titanium shaft.

At worst, the technology could prove unreplicable by our modern standards. If you went back in time and gave Benjamin Franklin an iPhone, he would certainly find it fascinating, but be completely unable to duplicate it—and that’s with a time difference of just over 200 years. UFOs, if they are indeed from another world, could be thousands of years ahead of us.

Could To The Stars technology list benefit the Army? Theoretically, yes. “Material science” could lead to tougher, lighter materials able to better resist enemy fire. “Beamed energy propulsion,” which sounds like the use of microwaves or lasers to transfer energy, could enable drones to fly longer. “Active camouflage” sounds like a mimetic camouflage system such as that used by squid or even the Predator.

But does TTAS actually have this technology? Well, we’re just going to have to wait and see.

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Would they make this deal if they hadnt confirmed the materials?

I dont think the army is in business usually to buy magic beans or toy guns. So i wonder what TTSA has thats so intresting to them? How long have they had it, where does it come from and what can it actually do, supposedly?
 
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Curiouser and curiouser. That appears to be the actual US Army, not some band or shady retail outfit. Which of course raises the question, if they were working a deal like that, who thought it was a good idea to risk blowing that by publishing a book of rubbish by a known flimflam man? Wait wait! Don't tell me...
 

nivek

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nivek

As Above So Below
Would they make this deal if they hadnt confirmed the materials?

I've read some people suggesting metamaterials and alien materials are two different things, implying that maybe metamaterials are referring to exotic but terrestrial materials...I'm wondering if this is just disinformation, an attempt to keep anyone from putting an 'alien' label on those materials...

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I've read some people suggesting metamaterials and alien materials are two different things, implying that maybe metamaterials are referring to exotic but terrestrial materials...I'm wondering if this is just disinformation, an attempt to keep anyone from putting an 'alien' label on those materials...

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It would be difficult to confirm theyre from an alien source, ive put a post out on this in the past.

If theyre from an actual alien source, trying to harness their power would likely be even more difficult.

Some people are saying this whole tech/materials thing is a smoke screen to fool China or Russia. Would they go this far just for that?
 
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wwkirk

Divine
I've read some people suggesting metamaterials and alien materials are two different things, implying that maybe metamaterials are referring to exotic but terrestrial materials...I'm wondering if this is just disinformation, an attempt to keep anyone from putting an 'alien' label on those materials...

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TTSA may have alien materials. But metamaterials has an established, conventional meaning.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
TTSA may have alien materials. But metamaterials has an established, conventional meaning.

If we can develop metamaterials couldn't an alien intelligence also develop metamaterials?...

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nivek

As Above So Below
It would be difficult to confirm theyre from an alien source, ive put a post out on this in the past.

The trick is telling them apart.

Why do you think it would it be difficult to determine alien or non-terrestrial origin?...If there are engineering or design aspects that we can recognize clearly made by intelligent design but something we cannot reproduce or reverse engineer because of our technological limitations, I would say that qualifies as very possibly alien...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Interesting...

 
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