To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

nivek

As Above So Below
Why do you think it would it be difficult to determine alien or non-terrestrial origin?...If there are engineering or design aspects that we can recognize clearly made by intelligent design but something we cannot reproduce or reverse engineer because of our technological limitations, I would say that qualifies as very possibly alien...

I wasn't referring to material or technology decades ahead of our current tech but materials hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us, something we cannot hope to duplicate in our lifetimes...

As far as disclosure, there's been talk this new development with the Army will put a pin in disclosure however I think government disclosure and the developments of these metamaterials are two different outcomes, two different paths...I never expected a full disclosure from the government, maybe some admissions as we've had a taste of but not disclosure...

 

nivek

As Above So Below
More interesting comments from Deep on these materials...

 

nivek

As Above So Below
How does Deep know about this? Elizondo told him? Why him? Where did the air force supposedly get it?

I tweeted your post to Deep and he answered:

 

nivek

As Above So Below
Check this out, more tidbits;



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TTSA may have alien materials. But metamaterials has an established, conventional meaning.
Sure but that meaning is not mutually exclusive with regard to alien metamaterials. We should expect that any alien civilization which has sent a piece of their technology here, to have developed far more advanced metamaterials than human civilization has developed, and for a far wider range of applications.

Interesting...


He actually has that part backwards. A body moving within an ordinary (positive) gravitational field is seen to move more slowly with respect to an external observer. Only a negative gravitational field (aka, "antigravity") can reduce the time-of-flight of an electron through free space, as DeLonge described on the Joe Rogan Show.

A piece of material that could produce a detectable ordinary positive gravitational field in the lab would be huge news. What TTSA seems to be saying is that they have a piece of tech with antigravitational properties, which if true would most likely be world-transforming news.

I can't help but think that the US Army knows something about this that we don't, because it seems unimaginable that they'd strike this kind of partnership based on nothing but the unsubstantiated claims that we plebes out here in the public sector have seen.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I wonder if this is somehow tied to recent developments...

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Dean

Adept Dabbler
Some of the language in this CRADA does not appear to be mere boilerplate . . .
 

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If we are going to try to parse the meanings in the press releases, we need to keep context in mind. TTSA has been flogging aliens aliens aliens for the two years it has existed. It is not an advanced metallurgy outfit. It does not make anything but bad TV, wild claims, and bad publishing decisions. Something very strange is going on.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
. It does not make anything but bad TV, wild claims, and bad publishing decisions.

You’re right. Talk is cheap and all we’ve seen is their apparently successful stupid tv show. And we’ll get another season. Wonder how the advertising and rerun residuals work out for TTSA. And the book. These were clearly on the agenda first.

Materials analysis. Glad the Army is having a look but that whole part of it seems to be a moving goal post. If the Air Force already had a chunk what have they been doing with it? Same for Bigelow. Yet we keep hearing about Art’s parts.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
A piece of material that could produce a detectable ordinary positive gravitational field in the lab would be huge news. What TTSA seems to be saying is that they have a piece of tech with antigravitational properties, which if true would most likely be world-transforming news.

I can't help but think that the US Army knows something about this that we don't, because it seems unimaginable that they'd strike this kind of partnership based on nothing but the unsubstantiated claims that we plebes out here in the public sector have seen.

As @pigfarmer mentioned, if the military had some of this material, what have they been doing with it to now turn to TTSA with regards to possibly the same material they once possessed?...It doesn't make any sense...

Then looking at it from an investor viewpoint or someone considering investing, what do we have?...A book on some deadbeat conman, a UFO show, as if we needed that, wild claims about metamaterials and possible alien source but with no evidence or lab reports to show, and now a contract with the military that could possibly hush it all up again...

Where is this company actually going with all of this?...

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nivek

As Above So Below
If theyre from an actual alien source, trying to harness their power would likely be even more difficult.

I tend to agree, if these materials are very advanced technologically I doubt we will be able to harness the full potential from said material...We may, however, be able to scratch the surface so to speak, being able to recognize the engineering we could possibly add elements of the original material to our own technology making some use of it whilst not being able to duplicate or create our own material yet, given the advanced and alien engineering...

Still though I have to question, why screw around with Bubba Lazar and tv shows if they have these real deal materials in their possession, surely the material alone can get them all the funding they need...It does seem obvious that they have 'something' or else why would the Army get in bed with them...

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Some of these comments remind me of an analogy Stan Friedman used to use: If you gave Christopher Columbus a nuclear submarine, he'd be able to figure out a good deal of what it could do, but would he be able to do anything useful with it? Would he ever even begin to understand its operating principles?

The army being involved is puzzling, for several reasons well stated by others here. I'm beginning to think it is more PR than anything else. It could be a counter-intelligence (I love that phrase!) operation. For the cost of a couple of crates of obsolete helicopter parts, the army can be involved in decisions about whatever TTSA might have, as well as worrying their adversaries.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Some of these comments remind me of an analogy Stan Friedman used to use: If you gave Christopher Columbus a nuclear submarine, he'd be able to figure out a good deal of what it could do, but would he be able to do anything useful with it? Would he ever even begin to understand its operating principles?

I think the best 'scientists' of that day could figure out how some things worked and would be able to start up some systems, but without a background understanding of nuclear materials, they may end up exploding the submarine or killing everyone around with radiation exposure...

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I tend to agree, if these materials are very advanced technologically I doubt we will be able to harness the full potential from said material...We may, however, be able to scratch the surface so to speak, being able to recognize the engineering we could possibly add elements of the original material to our own technology making some use of it whilst not being able to duplicate or create our own material yet, given the advanced and alien engineering...

Still though I have to question, why screw around with Bubba Lazar and tv shows if they have these real deal materials in their possession, surely the material alone can get them all the funding they need...It does seem obvious that they have 'something' or else why would the Army get in bed with them...

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In my mind its like giving the task of building the moon rocket to couple of talented builder guys in the 15th century. I dont care if they get Leonardo Da Vinci himself to help them, i doubt theyre gonna do it there and then.
 
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