Your thoughts on the afterlife?

k

Honorable
Rational activities of humans as a whole are rationalized through the filters of society these days which doesn't give enough due consideration to nature, producing a momentum that's actually irrational in the bigger picture...
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...and these momenta some people call "higher nervous activity".
Who is a duty today? I am a duty today! Yeah baby!
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
The semi-active role of karmic power in our life reduces the significance of your own actions. Human being, his rational activity violates the laws of nature. Only because of human actions you can live such a colorful life that you will want to become blooming forest glade in afterlife.
Karma is the cause and effect of actions. But they are NOT a rule. Higher life may intentionally harm lower life without any Karmic effect noticed at ANY point in time. So a man intentionally killing lower life is exempt of Karma if that lower life is insects or lower...for example.

Human rational activity is violation of nothing. What we as a species do is a part of who and what we are. What damage we may do today will/can be undone in the future.
What we do as individuals, is another thing.
 

k

Honorable
SOUL-DRIFTER, why I should listen to you and moreover to listen attentively to you?
Of course, we are in an environment of mutual respect now. So I can only to offer to you a cigarette and to look how your train is beautifully flying downhill...
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
SOUL-DRIFTER, why I should listen to you and moreover to listen attentively to you?
Of course, we are in an environment of mutual respect now. So I can only to offer to you a cigarette and to look how your train is beautifully flying downhill...

Some good reasons to listen to Soul Drifter, Soul Drifter has been a leader in the Comunity for, Countless years, Weather some people accept that he is established, He is, Many people Respect everything he has done for decades for the paranormal and ufology community, You don't offer Soul Drifter a Cigarette,

You give him the good stuff, He's earned it.

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The Man has done a lot for the community, Some people may not know that, However, Many people will never forget that.

 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
One reason I think so much about the afterlife is all the Karma I am carrying from this life. I am not a career criminal or anything but I have made alot of bad decisions and caused alot of hurt to loved ones. God has forgiven me for my bad choices, however I still have to accept the consequences of them. Forgiveness isn't the same as a time machine, or erasing the memory of bad choices from yourself or others. I really like the idea of being able to exist in a place where my karmic burden no longer exists, and I hope I can get there.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
One reason I think so much about the afterlife is all the Karma I am carrying from this life. I am not a career criminal or anything but I have made alot of bad decisions and caused alot of hurt to loved ones. God has forgiven me for my bad choices, however I still have to accept the consequences of them. Forgiveness isn't the same as a time machine, or erasing the memory of bad choices from yourself or others. I really like the idea of being able to exist in a place where my karmic burden no longer exists, and I hope I can get there.
As the song goes... “ See you in heaven if you make the list.”
 

nivek

As Above So Below
One reason I think so much about the afterlife is all the Karma I am carrying from this life. I am not a career criminal or anything but I have made alot of bad decisions and caused alot of hurt to loved ones. God has forgiven me for my bad choices, however I still have to accept the consequences of them. Forgiveness isn't the same as a time machine, or erasing the memory of bad choices from yourself or others. I really like the idea of being able to exist in a place where my karmic burden no longer exists, and I hope I can get there.

I do not believe karma works in that way, that would be just as taxing as the born into sin concept many Christian religions teach...I do not believe we were born into sin and I don't believe karma is judge and jury over our lives...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
intentionally killing lower life is exempt

Interesting, but how is one's rank of value determined ? Last bug I stepped on was still quite a complicated little mechanism - a miracle of creation if you want to look at it that way.

I prefer to think that all life is part of it. If you're a Shintoist spiritual entities reside inside inanimate objects. I actually think there IS something intelligent and highly annoyed living in my old Chevy.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
One reason I think so much about the afterlife is all the Karma I am carrying from this life. I am not a career criminal or anything but I have made alot of bad decisions and caused alot of hurt to loved ones. God has forgiven me for my bad choices, however I still have to accept the consequences of them. Forgiveness isn't the same as a time machine, or erasing the memory of bad choices from yourself or others. I really like the idea of being able to exist in a place where my karmic burden no longer exists, and I hope I can get there.

I hear that. Different religions prescribe different treatments but acknowledgement and humility go a looooooong way.

Amazing how prideful we can be sometimes and how hard we'll deny, rationalize, weave and bob to avoid facing the truth about whatever it is we've done.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I do not believe karma works in that way, that would be just as taxing as the born into sin concept many Christian religions teach...I do not believe we were born into sin and I don't believe karma is judge and jury over our lives...

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I suppose I should clarify, I am talking about Karma as the consequences of bad choices coming back to haunt you throughout your life. For example, there are some choices I made about 20 years ago that I now deeply regret. When I meet people who were in the same situation and made good choices, it just rubs salt in the wound. That is the Karma I experience.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I've Got to be Fair, As for me, I believe in Karma, No matter what doctrine someone follows It's just Action/reaction. People reap what they sow. That's not a golden rule. But Generally, being a good kind person, Tends to lead that person to Good kind actions and surrounded by Good Kind people. Thusly, To be a total Dickhead twat and screw people over one's entire life, Tends to get them in less desirable situations. Some people Call It Karma Or reaping what someone has sown. Or Kizmit, Or. What comes around goes around. But the fact is, The Idea of people wracking up Debts and rewards for their deeds is in every culture. And to be fair, There is a lot of Truth and context to the ideology.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Kent Dunn in his most recent appearance on The Quantum Shift show said we can get out of the karma contract. It's strange we're not consciously aware of contracts we've agreed to. As a side note James Rink interviewed a super soldier named Hendricks who said he recalled a person from a past life and started weeping because he missed them so much. It would make sense we can't recall our past lives.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Kent Dunn in his most recent appearance on The Quantum Shift show said we can get out of the karma contract. It's strange we're not consciously aware of contracts we've agreed to. As a side note James Rink interviewed a super soldier named Hendricks who said he recalled a person from a past life and started weeping because he missed them so much. It would make sense we can't recall our past lives.
That Sounds Really interesting, Karma Contracts, I need to look this up, That Just sounds like a big ole bunch of interesting to study on. Thanks Bro.
 

pepe

Celestial
I have only ever seen karma as walking hand in hand with the underdog and as another human construct in a world of unevenness.

This talk of past life karma is reminding me of Glen Hoddle, an England soccer player who said the handicapped were paying for a previous life of sin.

It does have a place I think and is working from a wide angle as possible where the low end folk will feel greater benefit from good acts and more numb to bad. In comparison at the other end of the scale a high end person who has had a good life gifted will be numb to the good and be rocked more by bad.

Karma for the classes.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Karma sounds like Newton's Third Law as applied to the soul. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Some people seem to get more than their fair share of s**t so either they're paying for a whopper past life sin or maybe it isn't really much like the third law at all, maybe more like a Corbomite Maneuver.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I suppose I should clarify, I am talking about Karma as the consequences of bad choices coming back to haunt you throughout your life. For example, there are some choices I made about 20 years ago that I now deeply regret. When I meet people who were in the same situation and made good choices, it just rubs salt in the wound. That is the Karma I experience.

My own take on this is that each one of us can create that 'haunting' of bad choices, along with any baggage carried along through life, no matter what that baggage is filled with, it is each of their own doing, karma has nothing to do with it, it shifting blame and not seeing what actually is, seeing hough filters of belief systems and conditioning through life and filling up the baggage accordingly on our own...Hope that helps clarify what I meant as well...

Karma doesn't work like this to me, it's a force and helps facilitate our endeavours, no matter right or wrong, and using karma as it really is then the outcome of those endeavours is also revealed early on, with it being our choice to continue on or make changes then and there...All the cards can be shown if we choose to see them instead of letting the dealer (karma) lay a few of them face down, it's our choice...

Maybe not the best analogy but it's off the top of my head lol...

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nivek

As Above So Below
we can get out of the karma contract. It's strange we're not consciously aware of contracts we've agreed to.

Spot on and without doubt true, as I said above, all the cards can be revealed to us, contracts are typically agreed upon in the beginning, before the work is done, read the fine print before you sign...

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Rick Hunter

Celestial
Spot on and without doubt true, as I said above, all the cards can be revealed to us, contracts are typically agreed upon in the beginning, before the work is done, read the fine print before you sign...

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Fascinating stuff, I would like to hear more about it.
 
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