Aliens, who exactly are they?

Kchoo

At Peace.
Thats where we differ,you see them as aliens.I do not and i never will again.Replace the word aliens in your post with demonic spirits and reread it.IMHO thats what they are.
I know that does not go over well on a forum that inquires about (aliens). This phenomenon is not going away any time soon for most,that includes the paranormal activity.
To those who do want it to go away there is freedom.

I doubt that all creatures in the universe that are not of this planet, are demons. o_O
 

dlw

Saved by grace
You have an opinion just as i do.I never said that all creatures that are not of this planet are demons.
The question perhaps should be is there intelligent life in the universe that is visiting this planet from other worlds.
In my opinion no.I believe they are the same entities that have been around for centuries that have adapted their presentation of themselves to people in order to achieve their deception.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I doubt that all creatures in the universe that are not of this planet, are demons. o_O

Than you should study Jacque Vallee. He's of the same opinion.

I am following YouTube channel "Beyond Creepy". What can I say, well presented creepy stories. I am not inclined to believe into demons and such, but than maybe it is possible to create hallucinations by using some kind of technology.

Recently I watched a good video about green gremlins that many pilots have reported. These gremlins sit on the noses of their planes when they are flying thousands of feet in the air. Usually I would ignore such reports, but I would always make an exception for pilots. Pilots are above average professionals and are constantly exposed to medical checks etc. Plus, insurance companies require striking off pilots that report too many UFO incidents. So, pilots would be exposing themselves to a considerable career risk with such stories.

It turns out there are lots of such gremlin stories among pilots. I would say that there is a plenty of scientific evidence for UFOs. And I am wandering if UFOs can somehow remotely can create some kind of hallucinations in our heads. There are lots of reports that would match that scenrio, and I can more and more relate to what Jacque Vallee is thinking.
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
You have an opinion just as i do.I never said that all creatures that are not of this planet are demons.
The question perhaps should be is there intelligent life in the universe that is visiting this planet from other worlds.
In my opinion no.I believe they are the same entities that have been around for centuries that have adapted their presentation of themselves to people in order to achieve their deception.
I think you may be right about that.... at least in some instances, it would not surprise me.

But not all instances.

Personally, I think I have met Alien visitors. and I have never met anything that convinced me it was a demon.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Im not wanting to argue over ones beliefs. I am just saying there is a way to stop all of it.

But it has everything to do with belief, your way of allegedly stopping it, it takes belief in your religion and its dogma first and foremost before someone can be convinced the alien visitor is a demon and it takes belief in your religion to use that religious method of allegedly dispelling the creature...So no I agree, you are not wanting to argue over one's beliefs however it seems you are stating one's beliefs need to change and put out a carrot called 'stopping it' to entice that change...Now there is nothing wrong with that, this occurs all the time all over the world, people convinced they are correct and attempt to persuade others to see that light, I think everyone has done that at some point or another...I'm also not saying you are incorrect either, there are still too many unanswered questions that need answering and it will take more research and investigation to hopefully find out what is truly going on, no individual and no religion has all the answers...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Capt.Ruppelt in his revision called UFOs a modern mythology and to a large degree he's right. Making distinctions about demons vs aliens is just rearranging the labels we use. However you want to frame it we're talking about contact with some sort of intelligence from parts unknown.

From the anecdotal accounts I've read these experiences are confined to an individual; meaning I could be sitting next to you in a car and see nothing while you undergo some sort of trauma. I think if you did set up your Ring camera to watch you sleep you'd see nothing unusual, Whitley Strieber notwithstanding. The 'mythology' is all the detail we fill in about what the experience actually was. Demons, aliens, ultraterrestrials.

Factoring out all the 'human nature' components - a polite way of saying charlatans, kooks, attention seekers, David Icke specifically, what have you - there may well be some external force at work and 'experiencers' are having a natural physiological reaction to it. I've read a little about epilepsy, attempts to artificially influence different areas of the brain an absolutely, a lot of the symptoms we associate with abduction and near death experiences can be artificially induced.

An example - I was at the Shedd Aquarium a few years ago in Chicago. They have a melon-headed whale and invite you to touch your forehead to the plexiglas wall. Or transparent aluminum, whatever the hell it is. It's swimming around in there looking at you while you're looking at it. When you touch your head to the wall you can feel it's acoustic emissions. Wow. It must've had what-to-say the day I was there because boy, did I get a blast. Difficult to describe. Wobbly, sharp, disorienting. So here was a perfectly normal terrestrial creature communicating (he might've just been humming a tune for all I know....) and not only couldn't I understand it but it physically affected me not all that pleasantly.

Expecting a tic-tac to land on the White House lawn is anthropomorphism at work. Maybe we have been and are being contacted regularly and just don't 'get it.'
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Capt.Ruppelt in his revision called UFOs a modern mythology and to a large degree he's right. Making distinctions about demons vs aliens is just rearranging the labels we use. However you want to frame it we're talking about contact with some sort of intelligence from parts unknown.

Exactly! Every civilization has reported encounters with beings from other worlds. It's a constant phenomenon throughout History.
 

perrolano

Novice
Have faith and trust in the Lord :)
Dear members of the forum and this thread, let's not make it a religious/atheist forum either thread please.
There are different forums to this subject. I already left a forum about aliens, because it turned to be more like a thread with religious visions and atheistic visions and not about aliens anymore. That is not the meaning.
Again, these remarks are belonging to different kinds of forums.
Let's talk about aliens only in this thread. Thank you, dear members.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I just wander if there is some technology that can remotely, without drugs, induce visual hallucinations.

Don’t you wish you could get one too many drinks in John B Alexander and hear some of the things he has in his head?

Those fear inducing balls of light at Skinwalker could be non-lethal weapons, so say some. Dunno about that.

Here’s something interesting I found. The psychoacoustic effect of infrasonic, sonic and ultrasonic frequencies within non-lethal…

Most of the induced symptoms can be easily replicated by a Saturday afternoon trip to any Walmart. You can also find references to the God Helmet which affects some people in strange ways.

Apply enough money to it and it’s probably possible. Very likely to have been studied. But as JBA puts it there’s no Dept. of Good Ideas so who knows. We make all sorts of perfectly useful deadly weapons. Don’t know how much traction non-lethal weapons would get
 

dlw

Saved by grace
Dear members of the forum and this thread, let's not make it a religious/atheist forum either thread please.
There are different forums to this subject. I already left a forum about aliens, because it turned to be more like a thread with religious visions and atheistic visions and not about aliens anymore. That is not the meaning.
Again, these remarks are belonging to different kinds of forums.
Let's talk about aliens only in this thread. Thank you, dear members.
To be honest i never read the first post in this thread,just notice the title.But out of respect for your opinion i have read it now.Cant say i agree with the idea of showing respect to (aliens).They do not seem to show much respect to people who have had encounters of the 4th kind.I my self have never had an encounter of the 4th kind,only encounters of the 1st and 3rd kind.I assumed they were aliens because that is what i had been lead to belief from science-fiction movies and media.If we take a look at it without any preconceived opinion and only the real evidence of whats going on from lights and crafts in the sky to abductions and contacts in the dark of the night what do we have.
Something that can not be explained.Yet in our opinions we state it as fact .Ive been down the syfi road and it lead nowhere.As of april 13 2014 i took another road.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
To be honest i never read the first post in this thread,just notice the title.But out of respect for your opinion i have read it now.Cant say i agree with the idea of showing respect to (aliens).They do not seem to show much respect to people who have had encounters of the 4th kind.I my self have never had an encounter of the 4th kind,only encounters of the 1st and 3rd kind.I assumed they were aliens because that is what i had been lead to belief from science-fiction movies and media.If we take a look at it without any preconceived opinion and only the real evidence of whats going on from lights and crafts in the sky to abductions and contacts in the dark of the night what do we have.
Something that can not be explained.Yet in our opinions we state it as fact .Ive been down the syfi road and it lead nowhere.As of april 13 2014 i took another road.
What happened?
 

dlw

Saved by grace
What happened?
I really dont want to write about all of it.I will say that the road i took on that day and year was not taken in seeking knowledge of these (aliens).
The road i took was from the acknowledgment of my own sin before the Creator.The rest has come through scriptures and the power of his name.
If any wants to call that religious dogma thats ok,its their choice and i will respect anybodies opinion,i only ask for that same respect.
I will bow out of this thread now so the author of this thread can get it back on topic.Thank you.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I still assert that they have a vested interest in Humanity.

We, humans, Use Animals to our benefit. Whether we use them as pets or entertainment or even workforces on farms.
I suggest. That there simply wouldn't be an interaction between us and they unless they were using us to their benefit somehow. We for as much as we love them, Keep pets for selfish reasons, We don't do it for them, We do it for Us. And when they pass, We Hurt. But we don't hurt for them, We Hurt for our own loss, Their suffering is over and to wish them to be back and continue to suffer is a display of our own selfish desire. They may be alien, But, Nature is something that's universal, They arent here interacting with us to better our lives, The proof in that is, how great are our lives exactly? a Supposedly technologically advance species with cloning capabilities and knowledge that could cure most diseases and end wars, Yet we still suffer and die, And kill. They could help us, But seemingly they have never once done this. They are here for their own benefit, That seems clear.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I really dont want to write about all of it.I will say that the road i took on that day and year was not taken in seeking knowledge of these (aliens).
The road i took was from the acknowledgment of my own sin before the Creator.The rest has come through scriptures and the power of his name.
If any wants to call that religious dogma thats ok,its their choice and i will respect anybodies opinion,i only ask for that same respect.
I will bow out of this thread now so the author of this thread can get it back on topic.Thank you.

You mentioned a CE3K event(s) and I was curious what you were talking about.
 

pepe

Celestial
Dear members of the forum and this thread, let's not make it a religious/atheist forum either thread please.
There are different forums to this subject. I already left a forum about aliens, because it turned to be more like a thread with religious visions and atheistic visions and not about aliens anymore. That is not the meaning.
Again, these remarks are belonging to different kinds of forums.
Let's talk about aliens only in this thread. Thank you, dear members.

The two can be seen as intrinsically linked by many.
 
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