Thoughts on the nature of life and consciousness

baleeber

Adept
I've had life experiences that have shaped how I think about the universe and how I think about myself.
Now, these perceptions and experiences are completely subjective. It could be imaginary ... but when you think about it, isn't our whole experience of the universe just perception? And couldn't any of those perceptions be imaginary?

Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum.

I doubt. Therefore, I think. Therefore, I am. I know I exist because I am thinking. I know I am thinking because I have doubts.

All our perceptions are filtered from our senses through our brains. Imagine you're in the control room of a vehicle. There are view screens, but no windows. There are speakers, but no way for sounds to penetrate the control room. The control room is on gimbals that simulate orientation, and there are instruments to tell the angle the vehicle is moving. But because the pilot has no actual contact with the outside world, they never really know if those are REAL inputs or just simulations. Are we awake? Are we dreaming? Does it matter? Experience is experience, no matter the media of that experience.

So while my perceptions maybe imagination, they are just as much a part of my experience of being alive as any other sensory input.

I've had several experiences wherein I was close to death.

When I was very young, about 10, I think, I almost died. I had a real near-death experience. I saw the tunnel. I saw the light. I felt a presence that communicated, but not in words, that I could go forward, it was my choice, but that it was not time for me. I should go back. And I did.

When I woke up, and ever since, then, I've had the strangest sensation of disconnect from my body, that my body is something separate from ME, from my consciousness. It was as if my body were a glove, the most perfectly fitting glove in all the universe, and it fit so well, that I wasn't even aware of its existence as separate from my hand until I tried to take it off. Suddenly, it was stretched in the wrong places, and lumpy, with pockets of air, and I was aware that I had a glove on my hand.

In one experience, when I was an adult, I think I really was very close to dying, and I became aware of a 4th dimension. It was a doorway, a direction, leading out of my body, but it didn't go in any direction I could point to with my finger. I could clearly perceive and understand this direction, and I knew if I went in that direction, it would go somewhere, out of my body. Looking back, I'm aware that the "tunnel of light" which I think of as a socio-psychological construct to allow me to perceive and understand something that was outside my normal range of experience, was actually going in that direction, and so while the earlier experience HAD introduced me to a 4th dimension, I wasn't aware of it, didn't notice, or didn't understand.

I see (or imagine I see) auras, particularly around living things. Some people shine so brightly for me, that I don't really see their physical form. I just see this brightly shining light, which, now that I think of it, isn't so different from "the light at the end of the tunnel".

The other day, I was imagining my own light, and I imagined it as a blue, glowing ball of light, like a glowing sapphire. And I imagined this light inside me, sending tendrils of light through my body, and I imagined that this was my essence or life force or consciousness controlling my body. But I also imagined a strong beam of light projecting away from my body, and I realize I was getting a glimpse, again, of a 4th dimension, that I was seeing a direction that most of the time I can't perceive. And it was like the doorway inside me that I saw in my second near death experience.

What I imagined at the moment was this. That my body is like a glove box, like one of those scientific boxes that scientists use to handle dangerous things, or maybe even one of those full-body suits with an accordion extension to protect them in a room with a dangerous thing. But only a very, very, very tiny part of me is projecting into the "box", into the body, into the physical universe. I imagined that there was a greater consciousness connected to that blue beam of light. It was as if I were my thumb, living my life believing that I'm just this disconnected thumb wandering blindly around, and suddenly became fully aware that there was more to me, that SOMEWHERE, somewhere I can't see or perceive, there's a hand, and an arm, and body, and a consciousness, with senses far beyond my own. And I knew that if I followed that beam, that I could will myself to withdraw from the box, and that if I did, I would return to the rest of me, and my lifeless body would just fall to the ground, meat with no energy, no life. And again, I imagined that other consciousness communicating to me that I COULD do it, but I shouldn't. It wasn't done yet. I should remain in the box for now.

Again, this is just imagination, but just imagine for a moment: what if our bodies are just a kind of glove box used by higher consciousnesses that exist in another dimension, that allows them to interact with things in the physical universe? What if they can project a TINY part of their consciousness forward, but not the whole, maybe deliberately so, so that they can experience something in a way that's different, like closing your eyes to touch something in order to focus attention on the one sensation or experience of the perception.

So again, this is just musing, or pondering, or imagination, but it brings up interesting ideas about existence and experience and the nature of the universe and the nature of consciousness for me.
 
The Universe is made of stories.

We are consciousness. The physical world is a product of consciousness, not the other way around. We choose to manifest here for the experiences. For the stories.
 

baleeber

Adept
The Universe is made of stories.

We are consciousness. The physical world is a product of consciousness, not the other way around. We choose to manifest here for the experiences. For the stories.
That's kind of the impression I'm getting. I'm here just to experience something.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
The Universe is made of stories.

We are consciousness. The physical world is a product of consciousness, not the other way around. We choose to manifest here for the experiences. For the stories.

The Earth had to wait a couple of billion years until we came along before the show started?

The test for consciousness is asking yourself if you're conscious. How we agree on consensus reality is beyond me.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
This is an excellent topic Baleeber, there are quite many particulars both subjective and objective which are very interesting to discuss concerning the observations, perceptions, and experiences of this 'thing' we call consciousness...

On one aspect of this topic, I have recently undertaken some 'deeper' observations of consciousness, not my own but that of others, having to put myself in other people's shoes, and pants and their shirts, in other words, immersing myself fully whilst making sure I have a rope tied around my waist in those deep waters lol...The experiences as a result of these in depth observations were more than I figured on when first contemplating this project, in fact on some occasions I was completely astounded and amazed by the experiences, but without becoming or being mesmerized into allowing this immersion to get the better of me...I know this may read vague to some, but I am still working on this project and do not want to rock that boat...

I'll be adding more here as the time is right for it, without a doubt...

I've had several experiences wherein I was close to death.

When I was very young, about 10, I think, I almost died. I had a real near-death experience. I saw the tunnel. I saw the light. I felt a presence that communicated, but not in words, that I could go forward, it was my choice, but that it was not time for me. I should go back. And I did.

I have had a couple experiences that were or appeared to be close to physical death, one I will not forget until I do die lol...This happened around 13 years ago, I was living in a different home and area than I do now, and my dog Kimosabi, a Jack Russell Terrier was still alive and well...I had a serious and life-threatening reaction to a prescription drug I was prescribed for a short time, almost shorter than expected...My blood pressure rose fast along with my breathing with sweat and convulsions, I was close to losing control and blacking out, and then it hit me...I began meditating quickly and after a little time passed, I have no idea how much time, my blood pressure was dropping, the convulsions ceased, my breathing was very slow but calmer...I leave my body to see it immersed in bright light and the next thing I knew I was standing in a place but it wasn't a room and wasn't outdoors, I don't know how to describe it, it was a place that had a light that shone from no discernible source...Someone else was there with me, it asked if I wanted to leave this life and move on, it said I was quite ready and I could leave now if I desired...At that moment I felt my little Jack Russell move next to me and lay down leaning on my physical body, I could see my body in a meditative state on the couch and my dog curled up leaning on me...I spoke up right after that and said I must stay where I am now, I cannot leave this life right now because my dog needs me to take care of him until he passes on, I cannot leave him, I'm staying...Moments later my eyes opened, sitting on the couch, I started petting my canine friend with tears of joy from my eyes, I also felt quite normal again physically...

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baleeber

Adept
The Earth had to wait a couple of billion years until we came along before the show started?

The test for consciousness is asking yourself if you're conscious. How we agree on consensus reality is beyond me.
Lol, I don't believe the Earth was waiting for us at all. I think it's here, and we're here, and that's about it.

Besides, what's time?

Scientific studies show that different beings may experience time differently. Let me tell you about this experiment. They wired up a whole bunch of different animals, including insects and people, to machines to study their brains. Then they started a strobe light. Brain lights up every time it perceives a flash. So they increase the rate. They want to know, at what point do creatures stop seeing a flashing light and just see once continuous beam. They find a direct correlation to metabolism. The higher the metabolism, the higher rate they can perceive. Highest was a housefly. Lowest among those they measured was an old tortoise. Humans were towards the lower end.

I expect, from my own experience, that the younger the human (and therefore the higher the metabolism), the fast the light can be.

They theorize that maybe creatures with a higher metabolism may experience time more slowly.

This would have an evolutionary advantage in the case of, say, a child vs an adult. The child experiences things moving more slowly, and so while they can't actually force their body to move faster, they have more time to react.

This might be why our ability to catch a ball, or drive a car decreases with age, why now that I'm old, everything seems to move so quickly ... but I feel so slow. This may be why the years pass so fast now compared with when I was a kid.

But imagine for a second how the extremes might experience time.

Imagine a housefly, that only lives for about a month, maybe. So what if it doesn't FEEL like the way a month feels to me. What if a month, for a housefly, feels like 70-80 years. So let's round off and say they experience 75 years in 25 days. What if one day feels like 3 years? An hour of our time would feel like 45 days. A minute would feel like 18 hours. Each second of our time would feel like 18 minutes for them. A housefly might not think it's buzzing around all crazy-like. It might think it's soaring majestically like an eagle while all life around it moves so slowly they almost can't see us moving.

A turtle would be the opposite. Maybe turtles don't realize they're slow. Maybe they think they're just trucking along at normal speed while all us monkeys are blurring around them at high speed.

But what about the Earth? What if the Earth were conscious? The whole history of human existence would last about as long as a sneeze.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Lol, I don't believe the Earth was waiting for us at all. I think it's here, and we're here, and that's about it.

Besides, what's time?

Scientific studies show that different beings may experience time differently. Let me tell you about this experiment. They wired up a whole bunch of different animals, including insects and people, to machines to study their brains. Then they started a strobe light. Brain lights up every time it perceives a flash. So they increase the rate. They want to know, at what point do creatures stop seeing a flashing light and just see once continuous beam. They find a direct correlation to metabolism. The higher the metabolism, the higher rate they can perceive. Highest was a housefly. Lowest among those they measured was an old tortoise. Humans were towards the lower end.

I expect, from my own experience, that the younger the human (and therefore the higher the metabolism), the fast the light can be.

They theorize that maybe creatures with a higher metabolism may experience time more slowly.

This would have an evolutionary advantage in the case of, say, a child vs an adult. The child experiences things moving more slowly, and so while they can't actually force their body to move faster, they have more time to react.

This might be why our ability to catch a ball, or drive a car decreases with age, why now that I'm old, everything seems to move so quickly ... but I feel so slow. This may be why the years pass so fast now compared with when I was a kid.

But imagine for a second how the extremes might experience time.

Imagine a housefly, that only lives for about a month, maybe. So what if it doesn't FEEL like the way a month feels to me. What if a month, for a housefly, feels like 70-80 years. So let's round off and say they experience 75 years in 25 days. What if one day feels like 3 years? An hour of our time would feel like 45 days. A minute would feel like 18 hours. Each second of our time would feel like 18 minutes for them. A housefly might not think it's buzzing around all crazy-like. It might think it's soaring majestically like an eagle while all life around it moves so slowly they almost can't see us moving.

A turtle would be the opposite. Maybe turtles don't realize they're slow. Maybe they think they're just trucking along at normal speed while all us monkeys are blurring around them at high speed.

But what about the Earth? What if the Earth were conscious? The whole history of human existence would last about as long as a sneeze.

Cool. There's a wee spider hanging from my desk lamp right now. To him (or her) moving around the world is about friction, wind, static charges. To me it begins and ends with gravity. Same environment, both Earthlings, very different perceptions.
 

pepe

Celestial
That spider has many eyes and is seeing you as you the same see him.

The speed of an animals' reactions during a fight or flight situation is size aided. With electricity travelling at a fixed maximum in the brain, size becomes a huge advantage for the smaller brained underdog.

I don't think metabolism changes perception and I think there is one speed for all.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I think there is one speed for all.

I think everyone starts this life with the same time on the scoreboard, some eat up the clock fast with short inbound runs whilst others go for the long pass plays with quick outs to keep more time on their board...

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baleeber

Adept
But as well, think of events that change metabolism, such as stress. People in stressful situations often report time going in slow motion. While it could just be a perception, what if it's an evolutionary boost. Again, we can't change how fast we move, but we'd have more time to take note of surroundings, options, impending threats. It could be an advantage.

Like I said though, I can remember when I was a kid, a week seemed like a long time, and a year seemed to last forever. Now, the years fly by so fast I can't keep track of them. I put something down and go back to it what seems to me a short time later, only to realize I put it down years ago.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Lol, I don't believe the Earth was waiting for us at all. I think it's here, and we're here, and that's about it.

Besides, what's time?

Scientific studies show that different beings may experience time differently. Let me tell you about this experiment. They wired up a whole bunch of different animals, including insects and people, to machines to study their brains. Then they started a strobe light. Brain lights up every time it perceives a flash. So they increase the rate. They want to know, at what point do creatures stop seeing a flashing light and just see once continuous beam. They find a direct correlation to metabolism. The higher the metabolism, the higher rate they can perceive. Highest was a housefly. Lowest among those they measured was an old tortoise. Humans were towards the lower end.

I expect, from my own experience, that the younger the human (and therefore the higher the metabolism), the fast the light can be.

They theorize that maybe creatures with a higher metabolism may experience time more slowly.

This would have an evolutionary advantage in the case of, say, a child vs an adult. The child experiences things moving more slowly, and so while they can't actually force their body to move faster, they have more time to react.

This might be why our ability to catch a ball, or drive a car decreases with age, why now that I'm old, everything seems to move so quickly ... but I feel so slow. This may be why the years pass so fast now compared with when I was a kid.

But imagine for a second how the extremes might experience time.

Imagine a housefly, that only lives for about a month, maybe. So what if it doesn't FEEL like the way a month feels to me. What if a month, for a housefly, feels like 70-80 years. So let's round off and say they experience 75 years in 25 days. What if one day feels like 3 years? An hour of our time would feel like 45 days. A minute would feel like 18 hours. Each second of our time would feel like 18 minutes for them. A housefly might not think it's buzzing around all crazy-like. It might think it's soaring majestically like an eagle while all life around it moves so slowly they almost can't see us moving.

A turtle would be the opposite. Maybe turtles don't realize they're slow. Maybe they think they're just trucking along at normal speed while all us monkeys are blurring around them at high speed.

But what about the Earth? What if the Earth were conscious? The whole history of human existence would last about as long as a sneeze.

There is a nice book which discusses a theory about this, whether all things live around the same time but existing in differing rates of time...Here it is in the attachment below, Theory of Celestial Influence by Rodney Collin, although this book discusses planetary influences in our lives and activities here on Earth, he starts getting to this discussion living in time within chapter 2...Enjoy...
 

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
That spider has many eyes and is seeing you as you the same see him.

The speed of an animals' reactions during a fight or flight situation is size aided. With electricity travelling at a fixed maximum in the brain, size becomes a huge advantage for the smaller brained underdog.

I don't think metabolism changes perception and I think there is one speed for all.

If I only lived a couple of days I don't know about my metabolism buy my 'to do' list would be amped up just a bit.

This is why a bug can never leave through the same opening it came in through no matter how big. Too much to do and it's already been there.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I think about these things constantly. The longer I live, the more I feel like this life I am living is just one existence of many, and it may not even be my main contribution to the universe. Is it the first existence I have had or only the most recent one? I have no clue!
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Been listening to an Astonishing Legends treatment of Edgar Cayce. One of those things you've heard of but never paid much attention to. He certainly seems to have been in touch with something. If we weren't out of sync by several decades I'd love to have had a reading from him.

He's not saying anything much different than what we've said here, except he said stuff while in some kind of state and was apparently disturbed by what was coming out of his mouth. A very matter of fact 'yup there's an afterlife and here's how it works' is a little disquieting. He's far from the only one to claim they have insight, it's just the way he does it that's creepy.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
How we agree on consensus reality is beyond me.

It's truly astonishing, but I have to wonder if there are also a lot of 'stand ins' to make it all work...

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