The shadow
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Stabbing of Asian-American 2-Year-Old and Her Family Was a Virus-Fueled Hate Crime: Feds
this and the fight I witnessed makes me want to puke...
this and the fight I witnessed makes me want to puke...
The shadow
The shadow knows!
Racist graffiti and rise in anti-Asian messages at UW-Madison prompt virtual town halls
more ignorant racist actions due to the pandemic.
more ignorant racist actions due to the pandemic.
I've been consciously forestalling a discussion about the potentially catastrophic social ramifications of this outbreak on our nation because I was hoping that the coronavirus stimulus checks would arrive in time to side-step or at least delay a breakdown of American society...but since the writing is literally on the wall at this point, prudence demands that we consider the reality of our situation.
If we are are indeed a week or two behind Italy, then we have to look at what's happening in Sicily right now: the Italian government has had to send in riot police to defend grocery stores because hordes of desperate people can't afford to buy food so they're looting grocery stores:
And as Shadowprophet recently reported, his family has already been forced to face the growing desperation all around us.
So now would be a wise time to lock and load, gentlemen - any one of us could be forced to defend our loved ones at home at any time now.
Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
Million people in UK apply for unemployment benefits as the result of lay offs due to coronavirus:
950,000 apply for universal credit in two weeks of UK lockdown
As I understand lockdown will be 6 weeks. At million unemployed per two weeks that's 3 million unemployed on a very short notice. No economy can keep with that Huuughhh ...
950,000 apply for universal credit in two weeks of UK lockdown
As I understand lockdown will be 6 weeks. At million unemployed per two weeks that's 3 million unemployed on a very short notice. No economy can keep with that Huuughhh ...
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pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Young and fit dying or over 100 and surviving. Who the hell knows. Some things fail when taxed and some things don't. In a testing environment this is why we subject things to stress. This virus is a proof load.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Watched the briefing last night. There was a gem in there that many probably missed. Pence answered a question - don't even remember what it was - and gave a real bullshit answer invoking 'American spirit' or whatever. DT laughed and said something like 'you're a real pro Mike. You spoke for 5 minutes and never even touched the question' You could see Pence just shrivel. I was rolling on the floor ......
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
That's my problem with the whole issue. The rest of the world goes on lockdown to avoid death at mass, And what do we do here? We Talk about American Pride and Spirit?
I hate to say this, And some people may hate me for saying that, But, Look at our numbers of infected, Look at our death toll, And Instead of lockdowns we talk about American Pride?
It is entirely possible that America may be literally the slowest kid in class. I'm just saying, At what point do we blame the virus directly, and at what point do we begin accounting for stupidity and pride?
This may be the most unamerican thing I've ever said, But, Whoomp There it is..
cosmic joke
Honorable
much like any politician anywhere, DT is no exception, whenever they/he opens their/his mouth, they/he lies.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
Success has many mothers but failure is an orphan. Easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize what's been done, when it was done, how it's been done, etc. Put the loudest critics in the Oval Office and honestly tell me they would have done anything earlier, more effectively, any of that. Jeering doesn't require talent, being on stage does. As for the efficacy of the response, time will tell and as I say, the s**t will come out in the wash.
Invoking feel-good emotion is a standard tactic despite what little bearing it may have on reality. First club out of the bag for the unimaginative. Pence just did what all politicians on both sides of the aisle do. It's like looking at the backside of a cow and somehow being surprised at what comes out. The truly surprising thing was being called out on it on a national platform.
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
I get that calming people down is important, But numbers don't lie our actually handling of this tactically is very very poor. Like the worst in the world so far. Save for Italy.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
OK. Rewind to the date you'd like. Last Christmas? January 15th? Pick one. Then go on TV and shut down the whole economy, ban travel, command people to isolate, all that.
Realistically how do you think that would go? Anybody - DT or not - would have found that a tough sell. The people demanding investigations now for all the 'blood on Donald trump's hands' would have been the first to pipe up and try to stop it.
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
No, it's true. There is no way to shut literally everything down, But we could still do more than we are doing though. I assume places like FEMA simply can not ever shut down. Nor could hospitals. Nor those places that supply them,
Nor,, Ahh. Yeah, We can't really shut down, It's impossible
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
And don't take that wrongly on Trump. I don't blame Trump for this, This is without a doubt, not his Fault. I Don't Blame Trump, My Thing is,
It was all fine and good when it was Trump schooling Democrats on Political issues. But this is a different time, This issue has done a lot to highlight how Trump really wasn't the guy to prepare the nation for disaster
In 2017 To cut funding, Trump Disbanded the part of our government which was prepped and designed to handle pandemics. Trump struggles to explain why he disbanded his global health team
And even now, Trump isn't handling this like a strong president, He has Mike pence, Handel, most of the serious talking, While Trump flouts on about other things, Then He brings on people who know what they are talking about to speak in his stead. Having pence Speak for him, Does show that He can't fully handle this situation. I'm not picking on Trump, But Trump's strengths are that of a businessman and economist, This Situation Literally does highlight That intellectually he was not prepared for this, However, Who was. Still. The fact that he gets his Vice president on there to speak to the nation, After he postures and rallies. Really does show his disconnection with almost all of America.
His strengths are his weaknesses during this crisis.
A strong president, Like Reagan, It would have Been Reagan talking for an hour, Reading and quoting those Facts from those people, Reagan understood, That to show strength and leadership he couldn't let other people do his talking for him, That he was the mouthpiece of America. It's leader. And he lead.
Trump is not this Saviour, That people who are politically charged are proclaiming him to be.
He has weaknesses and unprofessionalism that at this point shows, I am still fully Republican.
My money is mine, I am republican all the way. But, I back Trump less and less, every day.
It was all fine and good when it was Trump schooling Democrats on Political issues. But this is a different time, This issue has done a lot to highlight how Trump really wasn't the guy to prepare the nation for disaster
In 2017 To cut funding, Trump Disbanded the part of our government which was prepped and designed to handle pandemics. Trump struggles to explain why he disbanded his global health team
And even now, Trump isn't handling this like a strong president, He has Mike pence, Handel, most of the serious talking, While Trump flouts on about other things, Then He brings on people who know what they are talking about to speak in his stead. Having pence Speak for him, Does show that He can't fully handle this situation. I'm not picking on Trump, But Trump's strengths are that of a businessman and economist, This Situation Literally does highlight That intellectually he was not prepared for this, However, Who was. Still. The fact that he gets his Vice president on there to speak to the nation, After he postures and rallies. Really does show his disconnection with almost all of America.
His strengths are his weaknesses during this crisis.
A strong president, Like Reagan, It would have Been Reagan talking for an hour, Reading and quoting those Facts from those people, Reagan understood, That to show strength and leadership he couldn't let other people do his talking for him, That he was the mouthpiece of America. It's leader. And he lead.
Trump is not this Saviour, That people who are politically charged are proclaiming him to be.
He has weaknesses and unprofessionalism that at this point shows, I am still fully Republican.
My money is mine, I am republican all the way. But, I back Trump less and less, every day.
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AD1184
Celestial
I still remain troubled by the situation here in Britain. There was a distressing account published the other day in the Daily Mail written by a doctor, writing anonymously, about her experience dealing with the Covid-19 epidemic in a London hospital.
NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
A few things were particularly disturbing. For one, she describes how the disease is spreading among other hospital inpatients who are in hospital for reasons not related to Covid-19. Once upon a time, Britain used to have isolation hospitals. The large local supermarket near where I live is in fact built upon the grounds of a former isolation hospital. With the way that our hospital system is now arranged, we have no way to effectively separate the infected from the uninfected during an epidemic, and the contagion is spreading to non-Covid-19 patients.
Another thing mentioned is that there is a build-up of recovering infected patients who are too well to remain in hospital, but are likely still contagious. Many of these patients are old, and have come from care homes. These patients are being discharged back to care homes because there is nowhere else for them to go. Clearly there is a need for halfway houses for the recovering infected that keeps them away from uninfected people, but this has not been adequately planned for or provisioned.
The government keeps announcing that there is capacity in the country for 10,000 tests a day, but I have been monitoring the daily testing figures released by Public Health England and they have not hit 10,000 tests on any day (the closest they have come was 9,793 tests in a day as announced yesterday). These are the published testing figures:
The government has also repeatedly promised that this capacity is to be increased to 25,000 per day, but this now does not seem likely to happen before mid-April. The government have announced that there is a global supply shortage of necessary chemical re-agents, but critics have claimed that the government sat on its hands in January and February when a pandemic began to appear likely and failed to procure more from suppliers. Germany is able to manage 90,000 tests in a day, currently, and hopes shortly to be able to perform as many as 200,000 in a day.
Testing is only one piece of the puzzle in controlling an epidemic, however. It must also be accompanied by rigorous contact tracing and isolation of the infected and suspected infected by local public health specialists. However, this country's previously extant decentralized public health infrastructure and expertise has been dismantled over decades in favour of a smaller, centralized system under the auspices of Public Health England. There is not the man power distributed throughout the country to make this work as it could if the old system had been maintained.
The country's strategy appears to be based on a pandemic flu response document drawn up in 2014 (https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/344696/PI_Strategic_Framework_13_Aug.pdf), the Pandemic Influenza Strategy Framework. As some justification for the government's switch from the 'contain' phase of its initial plan to the 'delay' stage (or perhaps the 'delay doing anything' stage), one of the planning assumptions is that "Stopping the spread or introduction of the pandemic virus into the UK is unlikely to be a feasible option". This would explain why there were limited efforts to monitor those coming into the country. The plan indicates that early testing and contact tracing efforts are largely to gather data to be able to model the likely severity of the epidemic.
The government's Guidance for Local Planners document (https://assets.publishing.service.g...le/225869/Pandemic_Influenza_LRF_Guidance.pdf) indicates that the main practical response effort would be in disposing of the bodies of up 750,000 excess dead in as little as 15 weeks.
A simulation of the 2014 response plan was undertaken in 2016 which indicated that it was inadequate, and that Britain was unprepared (one reason being a short supply of ventilators). The full results of the exercise are currently classified. Nevertheless, we appear to have stuck with the plan for the Covid-19 epidemic.
NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
A few things were particularly disturbing. For one, she describes how the disease is spreading among other hospital inpatients who are in hospital for reasons not related to Covid-19. Once upon a time, Britain used to have isolation hospitals. The large local supermarket near where I live is in fact built upon the grounds of a former isolation hospital. With the way that our hospital system is now arranged, we have no way to effectively separate the infected from the uninfected during an epidemic, and the contagion is spreading to non-Covid-19 patients.
Another thing mentioned is that there is a build-up of recovering infected patients who are too well to remain in hospital, but are likely still contagious. Many of these patients are old, and have come from care homes. These patients are being discharged back to care homes because there is nowhere else for them to go. Clearly there is a need for halfway houses for the recovering infected that keeps them away from uninfected people, but this has not been adequately planned for or provisioned.
The government keeps announcing that there is capacity in the country for 10,000 tests a day, but I have been monitoring the daily testing figures released by Public Health England and they have not hit 10,000 tests on any day (the closest they have come was 9,793 tests in a day as announced yesterday). These are the published testing figures:
The government has also repeatedly promised that this capacity is to be increased to 25,000 per day, but this now does not seem likely to happen before mid-April. The government have announced that there is a global supply shortage of necessary chemical re-agents, but critics have claimed that the government sat on its hands in January and February when a pandemic began to appear likely and failed to procure more from suppliers. Germany is able to manage 90,000 tests in a day, currently, and hopes shortly to be able to perform as many as 200,000 in a day.
Testing is only one piece of the puzzle in controlling an epidemic, however. It must also be accompanied by rigorous contact tracing and isolation of the infected and suspected infected by local public health specialists. However, this country's previously extant decentralized public health infrastructure and expertise has been dismantled over decades in favour of a smaller, centralized system under the auspices of Public Health England. There is not the man power distributed throughout the country to make this work as it could if the old system had been maintained.
The country's strategy appears to be based on a pandemic flu response document drawn up in 2014 (https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/344696/PI_Strategic_Framework_13_Aug.pdf), the Pandemic Influenza Strategy Framework. As some justification for the government's switch from the 'contain' phase of its initial plan to the 'delay' stage (or perhaps the 'delay doing anything' stage), one of the planning assumptions is that "Stopping the spread or introduction of the pandemic virus into the UK is unlikely to be a feasible option". This would explain why there were limited efforts to monitor those coming into the country. The plan indicates that early testing and contact tracing efforts are largely to gather data to be able to model the likely severity of the epidemic.
The government's Guidance for Local Planners document (https://assets.publishing.service.g...le/225869/Pandemic_Influenza_LRF_Guidance.pdf) indicates that the main practical response effort would be in disposing of the bodies of up 750,000 excess dead in as little as 15 weeks.
A simulation of the 2014 response plan was undertaken in 2016 which indicated that it was inadequate, and that Britain was unprepared (one reason being a short supply of ventilators). The full results of the exercise are currently classified. Nevertheless, we appear to have stuck with the plan for the Covid-19 epidemic.
pigfarmer
tall, thin, irritable
I’ve been watching the daily briefings live and in their entirety. I’d recommend that.
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
People will trust whoever tells them positive things during a crisis. I'm just saying, There are wiser people than Trump to trust in this Crisis, That's why he brings them on to speak for him.
I'm not a Trump basher, I just, Don't trust him so much, He Can put my Life as ease in the midst of this Kind of crisis.
I literally don't trust him with my life.
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Shadowprophet
Truthiness
You are right there, I just don't consider him a primary source for true information on this,
The reason I believe this is, Less than four weeks ago, He said we had like five cases and it would just go away.
My sources tend to be The CDC and The WHO is all. Don't get me wrong, I do like Trump, He is economically the kind of leader we needed for this economy. He's not A washout. It's just, This whole corona Thing, It's a different ballgame.
Dejan Corovic
As above, so bellow
UK is the best organized country in the world when it comes to coronavirus. Lowest daily deaths rise, lowest number of infected ppl. Really proud to be British.
Anyway, how about voluntarily abstaining for 1 day / 24 hours from talking about coronavirus. I am totally bored with all the virus stuff and info. I mean, all the main news sites just talk about virus and nothing else.
Anyway, how about voluntarily abstaining for 1 day / 24 hours from talking about coronavirus. I am totally bored with all the virus stuff and info. I mean, all the main news sites just talk about virus and nothing else.
Shadowprophet
Truthiness
I actually mentioned something akin to this idea in another thread, To be fair, I know this is important and people need to be informed, But, there is literally nowhere online people can go and not be met with COVID-19, I am in complete agreeance.