Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

nivek said:

As of twenty minutes ago, notice China is beginning to have more cases and deaths again...

Click to expand...

I think what is going on in China is that they are having a lot of people come back from abroad with the virus. Also, there are still active cases from the Wuhan epidemic, where many of the new deaths likely come from. We see that, for example, on a smaller scale with the Diamond Princess passengers, where Worldometer indicates that there are still 82 active cases, despite the quarantine being lifted on that vessel and all remaining passengers disembarking on the first of March. There has been another death among them very recently.

Alright, I have to ask this, People keep speaking about when this will ever end. My question is, will it? I mean, Will a time in the future ever come when this coronavirus is truly gone?
People say this is the New Normal, So my fear is, We will have to live with things like this permanently.

Shadowprophet said:

Alright, I have to ask this, People keep speaking about when this will ever end.

My question is, will it? I mean, Will a time in the future ever come when this coronavirus is truly gone?

Click to expand...

Hard to say. Some are saying it is likely to become endemic the world. Some viral diseases which used to be widespread, like smallpox, have been eradicated. Polio nearly so. An effective immunization may come along at some point.

AD1184 said:

Hard to say. Some are saying it is likely to become endemic the world. Some viral diseases which used to be widespread, like smallpox, have been eradicated. Polio nearly so. An effective immunization may come along at some point.

Click to expand...

I have full faith that someday there will be a vaccine, But, By that time, There will have been so much loss and suffering. It's a hope for the future. But it does so little for us in this current situation

I don't really get it why it will get so long before vaccine is available. 1) Technology and medical knowledge are more developed than ever, 2) society is richer than ever and extra funding already had been allocated, 3) As a matter of emergency few safety steps can be skipped ( choosing the lesser evil ).

I really feel that vaccine could be discovered in 3 months, maybe not 100% human safe, but 80-90% safe would under these circumstances safe enough as stop gap measure. Obviously vaccine development will continue and maybe in 6 months we can have 100% safe.

Dejan Corovic said:

I don't really get it why it will get so long before vaccine is available. 1) Technology and medical knowledge are more developed than ever, 2) society is richer than ever and extra funding already had been allocated, 3) As a matter of emergency few safety steps can be skipped ( choosing the lesser evil ).

I really feel that vaccine could be discovered in 3 months, maybe not 100% human safe, but 80-90% safe would under these circumstances safe enough as stop gap measure. Obviously vaccine development will continue and maybe in 6 months we can have 100% safe.

Click to expand...

The problem is, With a vaccine, the reason they call it trials is because even with all the study and the vaccine fundamentally ready, We don't know how it will affect people if some people will have a more violent reaction than others, in a worst-case nightmare scenario, a vaccine could mutate the disease within the body creating a mutant strain.

But more so, In trials, We know so little about it, We won't know the statistics and analytics on the drug. We won't know the proper dose, And, To be completely fair, Even vaccines, while they are life saving, do have fatality rates although almost minuscule, the truth is, To properly call it a drug. We need to know a lot of things about it, That honestly take years to figure out. It's not coming up with the drug that takes so long, Chances are someone in a lab somewhere already has that or has the homework finished on its creation, It's, Not knowing exactly what it will do to people because it could literally affect men differently than women, Or children, Not to bring ethnicity into this, But A scientist knows People of different ethnicities do need different medications and different doses of medications sometimes,


This seems ethnically charged and almost superstitious,

However this is true, Red-headed people require more anesthesia before surgery and pain killers because they have a lower tolerance to pain genetically. Myth Understanding: The Truth About Redheads and Pain Meds

We need something universal that has been painstakingly engineered to work universally, And to find this drug requires Years, Sometimes decades


Consider, They present a vaccine, But oops. It only works on Chinese women and only half the time, This would not really be the Pancia we were looking for. And sadly, to even know this about it, would require clinical trials.

I surmise That the Vaccine for this could be something that will be engineered by CRISPR, Based on the chloroquine Method
A pill That Slightly edits our own genome to alter our PH levels in our Cells. to render the virus less effective,

I'm no medical expert, However, People will say, Shadow, That's a rash and harsh decision that could end up causing future issues like birth defects and diseases we couldn't calculate for. True. But It's better than a pandemic that could wipe us all out.

COVID-19: Wisconsin Data

broken Down in wisconsin

I hate to post bad news. Here's what I'm seeing - the growth rate of the virus within the US is still falling, but on March 31st the growth rate started to decline at a pretty anemic rate; the slope of the decline went from a nice and steep -3/1 slope about 10 days ago, to a pitiful -1/4 slope today. So now it looks like the US outbreak won't peak until mid-April. And the growth rate now is a multiplication factor of 3.25 per 8 days, and only very slowly dropping now. Since we now have over a 277K official active cases, it's looking like we'll being seeing at least a million cases before it peaks, and probably another million+ cases coming down the other side. Even at a 1% fatality rating, that's a lot of dead. And the surge in patients will be unmanageable, so that fatality rate is probably conservative. Ugh. I don't understand why we seem to be the only nation on Earth without a strict national lock-down. That would've saved at least 100K lives, even if we'd implemented it fairly late.

Thomas R. Morrison said:

I hate to post bad news. Here's what I'm seeing - the growth rate of the virus within the US is still falling, but on March 31st the growth rate started to decline at a pretty anemic rate; the slope of the decline went from a nice and steep -3/1 slope about 10 days ago, to a pitiful -1/4 slope today. So now it looks like the US outbreak won't peak until mid-April. And the growth rate now is a multiplication factor of 3.25 per 8 days, and only very slowly dropping now. Since we now have over a 277K official active cases, it's looking like we'll being seeing at least a million cases before it peaks, and probably another million+ cases coming down the other side. Even at a 1% fatality rating, that's a lot of dead. And the surge in patients will be unmanageable, so that fatality rate is probably conservative. Ugh. I don't understand why we seem to be the only nation on Earth without a strict national lock-down. That would've saved at least 100K lives, even if we'd implemented it fairly late.

View attachment 9388

Click to expand...

Yes But brother, I study analytics in an almost geek like fashion, I have a ,,, Perversion for numbers. This anemia is the beginning of the recession, a Solid decline almost never occurs. It will much in the way a snake thrashes at first in a bag. have a Dip peek decline, especially at first. But, This is the beginning of the light at the end of the tunnel, The first of the decline to follow.

At least, Hopefully. It's not impossible that this recession could completely revert, This can happen. but if the numbers everywhere else are any indication, We are finally seeing light. Let's hope this is the case.

Plus, I strongly feel the Warm weather is doing more for this than people are accounting for.

Trump warns of rough week ahead: 'There will be death'

President Trump on Saturday warned the nation of a deadly week ahead in the fight against the coronavirus as the number of Americans infected passed 300,000.

"This will probably be the toughest week -- between this week and next week," Trump said Saturday at the beginning of his coronavirus task force briefing at the White House.

"There will be a lot of death, unfortunately. But a lot less death than if this wasn't done," Trump said of the nationwide precautions underway. "But there will be death."

The sober briefing comes as the virus is spreading rapidly and more testing is revealing a steep uphill rate of infection.

.

nivek said:

Trump warns of rough week ahead: 'There will be death'

President Trump on Saturday warned the nation of a deadly week ahead in the fight against the coronavirus as the number of Americans infected passed 300,000.

"This will probably be the toughest week -- between this week and next week," Trump said Saturday at the beginning of his coronavirus task force briefing at the White House.

"There will be a lot of death, unfortunately. But a lot less death than if this wasn't done," Trump said of the nationwide precautions underway. "But there will be death."

The sober briefing comes as the virus is spreading rapidly and more testing is revealing a steep uphill rate of infection.

.

Click to expand...

Yes, the infection rate is on the decline, However, The virus is still out there and incubating in people right now, The death isn't over, But it will decline. But, It won't be over until about August. possibly November. And even then it will just be under control, It won't be truly over until this virus is contained or ran its course.

Shadowprophet said:

Yes, the infection rate is on the decline,

Click to expand...

Not according to the report I posted, it states quite the opposite, that we are experiencing a steep uphill rate of infection...

nivek said:

The sober briefing comes as the virus is spreading rapidly and more testing is revealing a steep uphill rate of infection.

Click to expand...

...

nivek said:

Not according to the report I posted, it states quite the opposite, that we are experiencing a steep uphill rate of infection...


...

Click to expand...

don't get me wrong, more people will become infected, This isn't really about the infection stopping, It's like a curve thing, But you know that. I suspect the infection rate is actually declining. But, this is the kind of thing, we are at a critical stage, It could go either way right now, This week, I fully believe with the hope we will see overall a decline in the numbers infected. However. This is coming from watching the numbers with a whole lot of hope involved.

I suspect we will see the flattening of the curve of infected over the course of this week. Well, Sunday, so next week. But you know, I'm no geneticist or a virologist. I'm just a guy that likes to watch analytical charts and has a lot of hope in his heart. My thesis on this can only be worth the hope of one man, I wouldn't suggest people get on the Shadowpophet bandwagon., Just yet. Rural areas that the virus is just now reaching. their roughest days are still ahead. I'm looking at this decline globally, Not just in the U.S though. So when I talk of a decline. What I mean is in the overall Global pandemic, Not here in the U.S

I think the Warmer weather May help us all in the end.

Consider we have been at over a million, If the curve wasn't flattening globally, We should be at over two million globally by now, This flattening could be though, That we don't have enough Covid tests globally, And It could be worse than the data shows.

This blows my mind!.View attachment 9392 [/ATTACH]

Ron67 said:

This blows my mind!.View attachment 9392 [/ATTACH]

Click to expand...

I would say America has the worst health care in the world, but Truly We do have the worst health care of any first world country on earth.

Ron67 said:

This blows my mind!.View attachment 9392 [/ATTACH]

Click to expand...

I would have to see more evidence than a tweet to believe that...

...

'It is like a fire spreading': US coronavirus cases jump by 32,000 in a day to pass 300,000 and deaths hit 8,160 as Michigan overtakes California's number of infections and virus takes its grimmest toll yet in NYC

New York City alone accounted for more than a quarter of the U.S. coronavirus deaths. New York state recorded 630 deaths in the past 24 hours, the biggest one-day toll there yet, taking the total fatalities to 3,565.

'It is like a fire spreading,' New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, of the alarming spread of the virus from the New York City epicenter. 'The fire, it doesn't max out in one place, but it consumes where it is and it's moving out.'

Michigan now has more cases than California, with 12,744 in Michigan and 12,603 in California. Outside of New York City, Detroit is the metro area with the highest death toll, with 223 dead in Wayne County.

nivek said:

I would have to see more evidence than a tweet to believe that...

...

Click to expand...

I know that my health care is fully intact. But I and sam have to pay a company for that, So, I don't think they can just take it away, I don't know how that works in situations like this though When they are probably overburdened like most health care providers.