A Crashed UFO in the UK during WW2

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    A Crashed UFO in the U.K. During World War Two?

    By Nick Redfern

    When we think of UFOs during the Second World War, more often than not, it will likely provoke images of the Foo Fighters. They were small, fast-moving, ball-like, illuminated “things” seen in the sky and mostly during battle and confrontation over Europe. The creations of the Allies? The Nazis? The questions still exist. And, it’s most unlikely that we’ll ever get the complete answers to the Foo Fighter issue. What’s even less well-known, though, are the reports of UFO activity during the Second World War that had nothing to do with the Foo Fighters. In other words, today’s article is on claims of Flying Saucers seen – and allegedly examined by scientists – during the Second World War. I should stress that the story I’m sharing with you today has nothing to do with the extremely dubious stories of “Nazi UFOs” that certain figures have promoted for disturbing, political reasons. Rather, we’re talking about an American journalist, dead aliens and more. With that said, let’s move on.

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    May 22, 1955 was the date on which a well-respected journalist, Dorothy Kilgallen, put together an account for the American press. The story, that surfaced while Kilgallen was on vacation in the U.K. at the time, read as follows: “I can report today on a story which is positively spooky, not to mention chilling. British scientists and airmen, after examining the wreckage of one mysterious flying ship, are convinced these strange aerial objects are not optical illusions or Soviet inventions, but are flying saucers which originate on another planet. The source of my information is a British official of cabinet rank who prefers to remain unidentified.” One of Kilgallen’s informants for the tale was suspected of having been Gordon Creighton. For a long time, he was the editor of the Flying Saucer Review magazine. Timothy Good, author of a 1987 book, Above Top Secret, knew Creighton. Good followed the Kilgallen story, saying that it “…was alleged to have taken place during a cocktail party given by Lord Mountbatten, but I have been unable to substantiate this with Mollie Travis, Mountbatten’s private secretary at the time.”

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    The FBI file on Dorothy Kilgallen

    And who was Lord Mountbatten? Read on: “As with many royal relatives, Louis Mountbatten was related to both Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth. A great-grandson of Queen Victoria, he was a distant cousin of the Queen’s as well as Prince Philip’s uncle. Philip’s mother, Princess Alice of Battenberg, was Louis’s sister. Philip also lived with the Mountbattens for several years following his mother’s institutionalization… In August of 1979, Lord Mountbatten was killed at age 79 in a terrorist attack by the Irish Republican Army. His fishing boat, named Shadow V, was blown up off the coast of the Republic of Ireland by a bomb that had been smuggled aboard.” Now, back to the story/yarn of the crashed UFO.

    Dorothy Kilgallen’s primary source for the story – believed to have been Mountbatten, himself – quietly told her these words: “We believe, on the basis of our inquiry thus far, that the saucers were staffed by small men – probably under four feet tall. It’s frightening, but there’s no denying the flying saucers come from another planet.” Kilgallen, recognizing that she had an amazing story on her hands, had more to say: “This official quoted scientists as saying a flying ship of this type could not have possibly been constructed on Earth. The British Government, I learned, is withholding an official report on the ‘flying saucer’ examination at this time, possibly because it does not wish to frighten the public. When my husband and I arrived here from a brief vacation, I had no premonition that I would be catapulting myself into the controversy over whether flying saucers are real or imaginary.”

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    For years, that was where the story pretty much began and ended. However, over the years tales have circulated to the effect that the UFO crash had nothing to do with Roswell (as some have suggested), but everything to do with a Flying Saucer crash somewhere on the U.K. – and, as a result, the Americans and the Brits secretly created a project to study the wrecked craft and dead bodies that reportedly fell into their laps.

    I’ve heard rumors that during the Second World War, the remains of the dead aliens from the crash were, from 1944 to 1953, held deep in a bunker in the London Underground. Another story (or, more correctly, another rumor) suggests everything was flown over to the United States, along with a team of U.K. scientists. The tales are fascinating. Try proving it all, though. True or not, the story is still an intriguing one. And if there is any truth to it all, then it adds another weird story to strange, UFO-themed activity encountered during the Second World War.


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  2. 1963

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    Hi Nivek, hope you are well old friend. :Thumbsup: ... As you know, I hate to come across as being 'closed-minded and overly-scepticle' .... but every time I see the name 'Dorothy Kilgallen' attached to the 'original source' of any proposed blockbuster UFO story,. [Or murdered sex-bomb , or whatever] .. I generally take it with a large pinch of salt mate.
    I remember the time when I wouldn't be so instantly scepticle of anything she had 'supposedly' had the social circumstance to be privy to the odd bit of 24kt top secret gold... but then about 10 years or more ago I remember being engrossed in a thread from Kenny Young [I think it was?] all about the gravitas , or lack there of ... of any revelation that sprung from Mrs. Kilgallen [and her husband Richard Kollmar ... but mainly Dorothy!] ... and as I recall, Kenny shot holes through the validity of many of 'her stories' [this one included] so big that you could drive a four by four through them. ... I do not believe that "just everything that Dorothy said" can be summarily dismissed as being worthless, because I still think that she was probably in the position to be fed snippets of pukka info , mixed with possibly a dose of misinformation and with the added probability of Dorothy's misunderstandings and embellishments ... whatever 'gold' that she managed to glean from her high powered connections could never be separated from the sensational clap-trap that has brought her so much attention and even reverence [by some], ... and so I place the lady on the "celebrity deepthroat shelve" besides the likes of Jackie Gleason etc. ... just my opinion of course. :)
    .... a quick search for the Kenny Young thread from UFO-Updates-List came up blank, but I got lucky through Patrick Gross' excellent site....
    ufo - UFOS at close sight: URECAT-000130 - Before May 23, 1955, U-K, Dorothy Kilgallen (patrickgross.org)

    Cheers Buddy.
     
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  3. Dejan Corovic

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    I would tend to agree, because the whole story is so hush, hush and nothing in the story can be checked, no documents, no witnesses, no blips on radar.

    Just yesterday I was watching this informative video on "foo fighters":

     
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  4. Carl Grove

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    Afraid I also feel very sceptical about such stories. They have the smell of disinformation about them, especially when "small alien bodies" are involved. I am pretty certain that the whole Roswell story came about in the same way, although in that case the disinformers made a huge mistake by phoning a local undertaker to order a number of child-sized coffins, the last thing anyone would do if they wanted to hide the idea of little aliens (especially as it would be quite possible to put small bodies into adult sized boxes instead). If the story was based on some real event it was maybe more likely to have been the crash of some experimental aircraft that they wished to cover up. Bernard Newman lays out an alternative answer in his book The Flying Saucer (1948), the idea that if you could cause belief in alien invaders it would encourage the rival blocs to join together to combat the ET threat. Pres. Reagan even suggested the same thing himself. I agree, Kilgallen may just have been the favourite go-to journalist when the powers that be wanted fake info released.
     
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  5. The shadow

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    Ahhh Dorothy Killgailan. Voice of Broadway. She was on what's my line from 1950 to 1965. She exposed the new York mafia. She also exposed mob ties of Frank Sinatra. After the death of JFK she begain to investigate his murder.. she interviewed Jack Ruby.
    She showed Bennett Cerf head of random house the manuscript. He said it would "blow the lid off" JFKs death.
    That night she was found in the exact same position on her bed as MM
    Like Marilyn she was nude. Her husband attested she hated being nude even in the most intimate moments.
    Last she died of an overdose.
    I personally think she was murdered.
    And the manuscript? Vanished.
    Her notes? Gone..
     
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  6. Carl Grove

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    Brave woman to go against the Mafia and to try to reveal who killed JFK. I wonder what Ruby gave away?
     
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    Required reading. She had worked on the book on JFK for two years. DK was close to the truth when she was silenced.
     
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