A friend's UFO sighting

The shadow

The shadow knows!
He posted on FB this:

I saw a UFO whilst on a mountain. It had a ring of multicolored lights and a huge bright light at the bottom. I was able to draw it while it was still fresh on my mind. FB_IMG_1656620780661.jpg
I'm in contact with him to get details!
What groups are good to contact?
MUFON?
National UFO reporting center?
Any one reliable to help with this that can be contacted?
 

Todd Feinman

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He posted on FB this:

I saw a UFO whilst on a mountain. It had a ring of multicolored lights and a huge bright light at the bottom. I was able to draw it while it was still fresh on my mind. View attachment 16694
I'm in contact with him to get details!
What groups are good to contact?
MUFON?
National UFO reporting center?
Any one reliable to help with this that can be contacted?
Wow!! MUFON and NUFORC would both be good. That is a classic UFO.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
More info.
He was at devil's lake state park
At the eagles nest campsite near devil's doorway it's a long climb an it's fairly tough to get to.
The "craft" was in the distance over the basin.20200518_155303.jpg
He saw it descending and went to dig out his camera he told me that he kept thinking "please stay!" But it just took off like a rocket. The craft was physical. And not something he was familiar with. More to follow
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I'm no certified MUFON field agent, although the thought has crossed my mind occasionally, but I'd be interested in hearing specific times, dates, locations. I'd go back and check on weather, astronomical charts, commercial flight information, the presence of any military, newspaper archives, etc to understand what else was in the sky at the time.

Not because I don't believe it or would want to disprove it automatically but because the detail would serve to answer basic questions that would be asked anyway and hopefully lend strength to the sighting.

Heard that Vallee actually got what we wanted via Bigelow and AATIP in that he created the databases he's been talking about for years. If you were a teenage kid just collecting reports locally and putting the fields I mentioned above in a spreadsheet and then collected enough cases you might very well see a pattern emerge. Make a table, make a database and run queries. Does anyone know if MUFON provides such access to their data? I've heard they have been doing something with it but haven't followed it.

Putting it in context is important.
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I'm no certified MUFON field agent, although the thought has crossed my mind occasionally, but I'd be interested in hearing specific times, dates, locations. I'd go back and check on weather, astronomical charts, commercial flight information, the presence of any military, newspaper archives, etc to understand what else was in the sky at the time.

Not because I don't believe it or would want to disprove it automatically but because the detail would serve to answer basic questions that would be asked anyway and hopefully lend strength to the sighting.

Heard that Vallee actually got what we wanted via Bigelow and AATIP in that he created the databases he's been talking about for years. If you were a teenage kid just collecting reports locally and putting the fields I mentioned above in a spreadsheet and then collected enough cases you might very well see a pattern emerge. Make a table, make a database and run queries. Does anyone know if MUFON provides such access to their data? I've heard they have been doing something with it but haven't followed it.

Putting it in context is important.

I already went through these UFO databases. One can find on MUFON at least a good, well trough list of questions to ask the witness. Patterns in UFO databases are absolutely huge. But not just immediately observable facts, like shape, size and surface, but physical phenomena, like electric and relativistic effects.

For example, this UFO that friend had seen is 99% a standard UFO as described by tens of thousands of UFO witnesses over the last 70 years. I would say, at least 60-70% of UFOs have this ring of multicoloured light around the largest UFOs perimeter. We can only guess what is purpose of this multicoloured lights ring.
 

The shadow

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I got permission to use his 1st name Matt
Keep in mind he is still at devil's lake.
Me: what time did you see it ?
Matt: a bit after 7
Me how did it move?
Matt: straight up and down.
Me: any noise?
Matt: nope. But every thing went dead still.
Me:The lights on it what color were they?
Matt: blue red yellow green.
Me flashing?
Matt: no steady
Me:The light on the bottom what color?
Matt :electric blue.
I sent a pic of the Gulf breeze hoax UFO.
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Me : did it look like this?
Matt: sorta shape was different . No upper light no windows. And the light ring.
More as I can
 

The shadow

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Will be trying to call him today anyone have questions for me to ask?
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Will be trying to call him today anyone have questions for me to ask?

1. any smells?

2. did temperature change while UFO was there? like his body or air around him.

3. was there any observable change in humidity?

3. how long did experience last?

4. did he get any tingling feeling on the skin?

5. was there any rotation to the UFO's body.

6. was there any lost / gained time on his watch or mobile phone?

7. did he possibly notice any shimmering near the outline of the craft, like stars or objects in background slightly moving.

8. did any electronic device that he might had stopped working or had a temporary glitch?

You need to be careful when asking questions not to suggest answers.
 
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The shadow

The shadow knows!
1. any smells?

2. did temperature change while UFO was there? like his body or air around him.

3. was there any observable change in humidity?

3. how long did experience last?

4. did he get any tingling feeling on the skin?

5. was there any rotation to the UFO's body.

6. was there any lost / gained time on his watch or mobile phone?

7. did he possibly notice any shimmering near the outline of the craft, like stars or objects in background slightly moving.

8. did any electronic device that he might had stopped working or had a temporary glitch?

You need to be careful when asking questions not to suggest answers.
Ok I talked to him.
I known him for years. I consider him. To be level headed. And from aspects of his voice I am convinced that this is not a hoax by him. But I do feel there is some level of hyper stress involved .
Questions answered by him:
1. Yes ozone like before a heavy rain.
2. Yes it seemed like it went from 80 to over 100 in a second.
3. The air got thick very muggy.
4. Estimate 2 maybe 3min tops.
5. Yes like I scuffed my feet on a rug. A static feeling.
6. Not that I saw.
7 and 9 No but. My phone was shut off. My fitness Meter was reset and when I finally dug my camera out the battery was dead.
8. No
The following I feel may be the result of nerves .
He told me he went from wondering what it was to if it was coming back.
It grew to terror that it was going to come back for him . He began to feel that he was being watched. That he could not get down in the dark. So he set up a tent he kept looking out for something.
He looked out and saw an owl on a log he panicked and sat on his sleeping bag with a hunting knife out untill dawn and it was safe to climb down.
He told me he was afraid it would come back that it was going to take him away. And further he asked me if my wife still did witchcraft and told him yes. He asked to talk to her privately to get a totem to stop evil. I asked what about the church. (He is Catholic )
His response was "I don't even think the pope could stop it." I asked why he thought my wife could help and he said he knew and trusted me and her.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Ok I talked to him.
I known him for years. I consider him. To be level headed. And from aspects of his voice I am convinced that this is not a hoax by him. But I do feel there is some level of hyper stress involved .
Questions answered by him:
1. Yes ozone like before a heavy rain.
2. Yes it seemed like it went from 80 to over 100 in a second.
3. The air got thick very muggy.
4. Estimate 2 maybe 3min tops.
5. Yes like I scuffed my feet on a rug. A static feeling.
6. Not that I saw.
7 and 9 No but. My phone was shut off. My fitness Meter was reset and when I finally dug my camera out the battery was dead.
8. No
The following I feel may be the result of nerves .
He told me he went from wondering what it was to if it was coming back.
It grew to terror that it was going to come back for him . He began to feel that he was being watched. That he could not get down in the dark. So he set up a tent he kept looking out for something.
He looked out and saw an owl on a log he panicked and sat on his sleeping bag with a hunting knife out untill dawn and it was safe to climb down.
He told me he was afraid it would come back that it was going to take him away. And further he asked me if my wife still did witchcraft and told him yes. He asked to talk to her privately to get a totem to stop evil. I asked what about the church. (He is Catholic )
His response was "I don't even think the pope could stop it." I asked why he thought my wife could help and he said he knew and trusted me and her.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
When I had my sighting in 98 I never felt fear. I never thought it was coming back. Never thought I would be harmed. Was it the remote location?
Or he got so nervous his mind played tricks on him when he saw the owl?
I'm 100% sure this is legit sighting.
But his reaction after. I'm definitely letting him talk to Rikki.
 

The shadow

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One last question I asked was "what do you think it was?
He answers "a craft from another world."
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
.
Questions answered by him:
1. Yes ozone like before a heavy rain.
2. Yes it seemed like it went from 80 to over 100 in a second.
3. The air got thick very muggy.
4. Estimate 2 maybe 3min tops.
5. Yes like I scuffed my feet on a rug. A static feeling.
6. Not that I saw.
7 and 9 No but. My phone was shut off. My fitness Meter was reset and when I finally dug my camera out the battery was dead.
8. No

Yeah, I knew what questions to ask. Phenomenal answers!

1. Ozone is almost always smelt by witnesses because UFO propulsion works on microwaves, and in turn microwaves turn air into plasma and plasma creates ozone. Actually, somebody else in this forum had seen UFO and smelt ozone.

2. "... 80 to over 100" ( I'm guessing you are talking Fahrenheit ). Again, UFO propulsion works on microwaves, and because our bodies contain large quantities of water, we feel the heat from induction. He was just being gently cooked alive :) . He's lucky he wasn't standing closer, he would get serious burns, like Betty Cash from Cash-Landrum UFO encounter in 1980 got blisters inside her body cavities like eye-sockets and mouth. Yeah, blisters inside eye-sockets, just imagine. To ad insult to injury doctors put Betty Cash into broom cabinet because they were afraid that she picked up radioactive radiation somewhere.

3. ... I can't explain that. But, I was aiming for EM induction again, because some witnesses had their clothing literaly dried up in seconds.

4. I was thinking that there is strong electric field and lots of plasma in the air around UFO and that that will be felt by skin.

5. ... it seems our questions and answers age getting out of sync here.

6. that's OK. Maybe if he was standing closer. That effect would fall off really fast with inverse square of distance.

7. yeah, shimmering would only be visible if UFO was positioned between witness and some object behind the UFO. Maybe UFO never dropped bellow horizon, so there was a plain & uniform sky behind the UFO's outline, in which case it will be impossible to see any shimmering.

8. yeah, again, trouble with electronics happens in lots of UFO cases, because microwaves, static electricity, possibly strong magnetic fields etc. High school physics dictates that in order to produce these microwaves there must be a pulsating magnetic field, which in turn would induce strong currents in electronic and mess up the digital stuff.

Yeah, I know history of UFOs very well. That detail with owl is something that repeats in many UFO cases. But its hard to say purely from point of physics. It can be an ordinary owl, but it can be UFO drone disguised as owl. Because he said earlier that UFO left immediately, its likely that UFO noticed him ( he would glow like a torch on any thermal camera ), so its reasonable to say that after UFO left they dropped a drone to watch him. Purely from physics, it is possible to create holographic images in the air with lasers. There are companies demonstrating such holograms on trade shows, although always monochromatic. Maybe aliens have better tech :)

10. Question would be was the owl possibly transparent? In which case it would likely be a projection.

Now, the question to ask your friend is, can he get hold of a magnetometer and Geiger counter :) and go back to that location and scan the area where UFO was closest to the ground and plants. If UFO got close to the ground then what happens soil and plants get magnetised. I know it sounds crazy, how can organic matter get magnetised, but that's what was reported in a few cases where they checked with magnetometers. Probably because magnetic fields produced by UFO are off the charts strong and some residual magnetisation occurs even in normally non-magnetisable objects. He would need to make a grid with ropes and then take notes of all the readings on the grid. Sorry, that's science.

Another suggestion would be that he contacts MUFON or at least fills the form on their site. He should include answers from both the first and this second set of questions, because they make very meaningful scientific picture. MUFON might send somebody with magnetometer, they should have this kind of stuff.

Re: your friend getting scarred that UFO will come back to pick him up. I would be s..t scarred too, because that happens very often. Its actually strange that that didn't happen. Good thing that he kept alert and had shown that he's ready to resist. In one Russian case they returned abductee only 10 years later.
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Another suggestion would be that he contacts MUFON or at least fills the form on their site

By itself the report is just a report. The sighting came and went and your friend has the experience, but that's it. But if he took the next step and contributed to the database it would help overall. At a minimum he might find that someone else he is unaware of saw it too and reported it.

I give you a hundred little dots and you have a line drawing of something. I give you millions upon millions of them and suddenly you have a 3D HD image. Welcome to Big Data and marketing analytics. Numbers in that volume don't exist for UFO reports but they do exist. Theoretically AATIP or Bigelow paid MUFON for theirs. I'd love to know what, if anything, their inevitable analysis revealed. Shouldn't data like that be available to the UAP Task Force?
 

Todd Feinman

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It reminds me a bit of the Delphos UFO:
"It was described as having multi-coloured lights, and hovering about 75 feet away among trees at just a few feet above ground. It then ascended with a blinding light."

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The blinding white light came from the bottom of the object. The multicolored lights on the object might have been around the circumference, but I'm not sure. The shape is very similar. I actually think that these objects are balloon-like, flexible, programmable matter objects --this allows them to be transmedium, etc.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
I did not have a lot of time today but Matt said that Friday to Saturday he had nausea and diarrhea. His cell does not charge well and the GPS is not working. Other electronics are normal. He described the owl as a brown barn owl with glowing eyes he never saw it move or heard it hoot. He felt like it was watching his tent
I asked him what he thought was going to happen he said that Jason (from Friday the 13th. )Or some horror would kill him. Or the grey aliens would take him to some alien planet
 

Rikki

High Priestess
When my husband made me aware of this, I began looking at realms where extradimensional aliens dwell. and sought out any spiritual explanation for this event. I sensed no involvement in these realms. However, some of these beings are deceptive so I will not close the door on these beings being involved in the sighting. I sat down with Matt yesterday. the man was frightened and confused by the sighting. Even days after he has trouble sleeping. He told me he has seen the SAME OWL outside his folk's home. this gives me pause. so, with my husband's permission I stayed the night at his parents' home along with My daughter Kate. I saw and heard nothing no owl or any odd event. My daughter spent the night astral traveling and I personally kept watch on his room. My daughter told me she sensed Something was watching him but was warned off due to our presence. we paid for him to spend the night in a hotel seeing if whatever it is follows him. we may have to look hard for whatever it is. But it's not something we can readily pick up. I also advised he go to a doctor. I examined his clothing he wore. his tent, sleeping roll and electronics. I confirmed His phone is not holding a charge and the GPS is not working as my husband noted. I will also say I'm not a scientist and if any if whatever happened is physical, I can do little to stop it.
Blessed Be
Rikki
 

Todd Feinman

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Very interesting! The connection between UFOs and owls has been explored before:

I'm sure with an experience like that, he will have PTSD or as I like to think of it in relation to UFOs "PTAD" "Post-traumatic Awe Disorder".
 
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