Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by nivek, Oct 20, 2017.
A million bottles a minute: world's plastic binge 'as dangerous as climate change'
This is serious and a total disgrace, something must be done even if we are at the point of no return...
Wow thats alot, they could melt those plastic bottles and make shoes or something.
We dont have that problem here.. think like 95 % goes to recycleing,, the rest being burnt and converted to district heating + elec. power...
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Oh nothing to worry about...the Republicons say we aren't affecting the planet or the climate in any way......nothing to see here...move along.
I'm sort of for tossing plastic in the ocean because it adds carbon to the environment and ultimately raises the CO2 level.
I am outraged that anyone would try to stop the necessary increase in the CO2 level. But sure enough there are anti-science warmunists who want to do exactly that.
I would like to see a CO2 level of 500-600 PPM and this is a backdoor way to get there.
DOE Secretary Rick Perry: “Resiliency Pricing Rule” for Coal-fired and Nuclear Power Plants
Fortunately it looks like they are going to save coal fired generation in the US, so maybe dumping plastic in the ocean isn't all that necessary.
It's been a while since I've read some of your postings, CasualByStander. I can't tell if you're serious or joking. lol
Well... sometimes I'm not sure either.
Ocean Garbage Patch Is Mysteriously Disappearing
The linear extrapolation of plastic in the ocean is just so much mature.
Scientists who went looking for it found thousands of tons, not millions of tons.
It is disappearing. Where exactly it is going is somewhat of a mystery. The plastics were designed to decompose and that appears to be what is happening perhaps with some bacterial help.
Eventually some hybridized bacteria is going to emerge for this new food source and a plastic bottle tossed into the ocean will almost disappear as you watch.
Missed a link:
Newly-evolved microbes may be breaking down ocean plastics
It looks like the plastic is getting et by little critters.
Just hilarious. What timescale are you using for your rant. Century ? LMAO
Biodegradable* PET & PETG Polymer Additive
There have been a lot of initiatives to add starch or other elements to plastic to make them degrade faster. They have been researching this for about two decades. From the rah-rah press I thought they had done something. If you have left plastic out in the sun you know UV does a number on many plastics.
However, it looks like for PET (polyester) which is used for clothing, carpet, and most bottles they are in recycling mode.
Don't see any signs they are going the one use path. They could.
This is the conundrum. A lot of oil is plowed into plastic. Reuse makes sense, but then you are going to have toss aways thrown in the ocean.
However there are bacteria in landfills and the ocean that have developed a taste for it. So I guess it isn't much problem either way.
The images in the link were taken off Roatan an island off the coast of Honduras.
Caribbean oceans are choked by plastic bottles and rubbish | Daily Mail Online
That's terrible, Islands of junk floating around the oceans. Shame shame.
It's awful and this is just the plastic bottles we're discussing here, what about all the plastic bags and tons of plastic wrappers that go unrecycled?...
If something like this is helping to break down plastics I have doubts there's enough of themcto help keep up with the ever growing amount of plastic that's going into the environment...The world needs to recycle most if not all plastic, not less than half as it is currently...
Is recycling not done in the Americas at all ?
What about Asia and Australia..
Well. I have very good tap water here. I Never
buy any PET bottles anymore, anyways...
They recycle here but the whistle was blown on the recyclers as they are just picking it up and dumping it at the tip as the plastic and glass is not economical to recycle anymore. I stopped using my recycling bin as its just all going to the local garbage dump. Again shame on them all.
Just to point out - those are from Hondurans or Africans (as I read the ocean currents) not Americans.
It isn't our fault.
We in Australia have mountains of glass and plastic just sitting around after being recycled they are not getting the money for it these days they say and are just burying it at refuse dumps. What a waste. Watch this video it gives you the goss for recycling in Australia for 2017 its an eye opener.