A quiet little post about depression and emotions.

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  1. August

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    I wear Moonstone jewellery ( Moonstone is a sodium potassium aluminium silicate, with the chemical formula AlSi₃O₈) sometimes they are said to : Moon stone helps to soothe and balance the emotions. They assist in the master of your emotions by bringing them under control of your will, instead of repressing or expressing them.

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  2. Dundee

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    I wonder if I can make a suit of Armour out of them. Get rid of my old Iron one. I could use some assistance mastering the old emotions some times :)
    Lovely piece of Jewellery by the way August. Very nice. I bet it looks nice on you when you wear it.
     
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  3. Athena ashford

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    Then u will become a royal knight!!
     
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  4. Dundee

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    And a very shiny blue one, I wouldn't need to draw my sword, I would dazzle my opponents into submission just by the reflected light. They couldn't see me for the glare :)
     
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  5. Gambeir

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    I could comment on every single post. A great thread BTW.

    Been just itching like hell to open my big giant fat mouth ya know.... Oh Lordy!
    Look, you're a sensitive person is all. Aspergers
    Well my advice is go find a quite place and ponder the nature of your depression. I used to know someone who also thought like you do. He too went to see a psychologist. They did give him drugs. They gave him psychotropic drugs and ya know what. He got crazier and crazier, and eventually the drugs they gave him ate holes in his brain. Ya know who that person was? My dad is who it was. He's dead now. That so-called mental health professional murdered my father with their drugs, and ya know what else? I couldn't do one fucking thing to stop it either because his faith in their bullshit was equal to yours.

    I also have a younger brother who's also following your advice. Haven't talked to him in years and the last time I did he asked me who I was. So now they are working on murdering my little brother too.

    Now why am I coming down on you like that? Because you think you're helping but what you don't understand is the criminal nature of the system and the people who serve it. They also think they help people too, but then hey they also have 5 years of college or more to pay for as well.

    See I know about drugs because I'm a child of the 1960's and I know you don't fucking take drugs unless you like being fucked up and that's what they do. They fuck you, and in the end they will kill you. Think about it.

    Sorry about the language but it fits the theme. I get where you're coming from and now you can understand where I'm coming from.
     
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  6. cosmic joke

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    shadowprophet. i feel for you brother. long walks, breathe, meditate. you are not alone.
     
  7. Dundee

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    Like I said, I have dealt with depression for 30 odd years, and the one thing I have learned is how much I don't know. But i do know that there is no single statement you, or I or anyone can make that covers everyone's situation.
    It is a very complex subject, and in my opinion, your advice is very dangerous and as much as you say you know, in my opinion you are ill informed with the best intentions. I am not saying drugs are the answer in every situation. I am well aware of the drugs you are referring to and what they can do to you. Just don't go telling people to stop taking there meds because of your experiences alone. Everyone's situation is different. I am not going to debate you on this, unless I see you trying to influence folks I care for with bad advice. I believe common sense will prevail here.
    All the best.
    Dundee
     
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  8. Kchoo

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    My wife says- in man time, 'the other day' could mean last week, last month or sometime during the last millineum.
     
  9. Dundee

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    Lol, that is so true, when the wife says, "When are you going to mow the lawn" and you reply, "Yeah shortly"

    Wife's possible interpretations.
    • Instantly
    • As soon as you fuel the mower (next 45 seconds)
    • Immediately after the last job I just gave you. Which by the way should have been already done.
    • Worst case by the end of the day, but by hell are you gonna pay
    • NOT TODAY!!!!!! You remember that thing we used to do called making love, The drought just started with no end in sight.

    Mans Possible interpretations.
    • Do we have a mower?
    • Does it still work?
    • Where did I leave it, can't see it, the grass is too long.
    • Didn't I use the last of the petrol to clean some parts.
    • Surely she doesn't mean this weekend, the footy on tonight.
    • Maybe I can divert her and suggest we go out for tea.
    • Maybe I can tell her the mower is broken, no that's lying....shit.
    • Resignation....darn woman, didn't I cut the grass a couple of months ago.
    • BEER!!!!!!!!! Of course
    • Grabs Eskey, fills with beer and ice
    • Lawns are looking good.
    • .................
    • .................
    • 4 hours later the mower finally starts, its near dark,
    • your beer is flat, teas in the oven, the wife is as mad as hell,
    • and the drought...just turned into an El nino
    • And the lawns still are not cut
     
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  10. Kchoo

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    My psychologist helped me more than the meds in the long run and I believe everything he did was right.

    The meds helped in the short term, but were specific to depression and anxiety, and have been proven safe.

    I had to work, do the assignments, read the books, fill out the workbooks, and dig in... but I did find self help techniques that make life run smoother... I recommend a psychologist first.
     
  11. Kchoo

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    Well... thats pretty too... ;)
     
  12. Octo

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    Yep, i know its really amazing how the day of your birth can affect you for the rest of your life.
     
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  13. Kchoo

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    How does it do that?
     
  14. Gambeir

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    We don't need to debate. The problem isn't even the drugs they give you, not really, rather it comes down to understanding that there are those whom can profit from them, those who need them, and those whom come to abuse them because the system encourages them to do that, and that's really where my ranting comes from.

    I'm giving a cautionary tale which is factual.

    Don't let faith in officially approved drugs lead you to the belief that because they are prescriptions they are somehow safe. That's like saying cigarettes are safe if they came from a pharmacy. WTF kind of thinking is that? I'll tell you what kind...it's retarded thinking is what it is, but my dad believed that. My brother believe's it even after the fact.

    That's all. I get where you're coming. I only responded the way I did so that you realize there's people like me whose experiences with this so called medical profession have been anything but positive. One dead family member and another on the way isn't what I call helping.
     
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  15. Sheltie

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    Everyone and every situation is different. What's right for one person may not be right for another. I'm sorry you and your family have had bad experiences with prescription drugs and the medical profession, Gambeir, but I'm sure Dundee's doctors know what they're doing.
     
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  16. Dundee

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    I wasn't having a go intentionally. i am just pointing out that blanket statements giving medical advice by non experts , myself included are a dangerous thing. In short the decision is yours but make sure you talk to the experts first. That way you can make an informed decision. Every medication has a horror story if you look. But they still save lives most times. That's all I was getting at. :)
     
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  17. Gambeir

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    I think it's like anything: Be aware, be cautious, and follow your instincts.
    Telling my experience is a part of knowing. I just want people to be aware that
    psychotropic drugs come with a price tag for most people and I personally don't
    have much faith in the people who prescribe them. So it's not so much the drugs
    which themselves may be necessary for a time, or in some instances forever, but rather
    it's the supposed field of mental health that I and many others consider a growing threat,
    and mainly because it's cloaked in the garb of health care.

    Well to me a doctor is surgeon first and foremost. A psychologist is a policeman, the good ones
    anyways, and a mental health professional is someone you can talk to about anything. I don't think
    they should be allowed to write prescriptions without a co-signature by a doctor. Just my opinion.

    On the other side of the medical field, in the area of surgeons, I've seen these people
    preform what amounts to miracles. So ya know....I know that's not the case for everyone else either.
    I personally would rather take a bottle of whiskey and a rope out to a tree rather than go to a hospital
    for just about anything which entails more than a needle and thread, most of which I'd do myself anyways.
    Maybe I'm just a sonofabitch. Many think so from what I can tell. :)
     
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  18. Octo

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    Don't know how but its true imo.
     
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  19. Diva

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    I understand sadness but not very sure how this depression feels like. There is one thing I still don't understand, during my schooling days I used to see some students age around 15 cut their wrists and they like to show and tell me about it, When I ask them why they did so they would give petty reasons like I'm not loved and etc. What should I do if I were to come across this kind of people again? Usually I would just listen to their stories, one of my doctor friend said that listening to them helps reduce their depression.
     
  20. August

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    Depression and anxiety can affect people in at a lot of ways and levels. Humans are extremely complicated creatures. My cousin was into self harm she had cut herself on her arms and on her legs leaving scars which she now very much regrets but at the time it was a cry for help. Listening to them is good but seeking treatment if better.
     
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