A weird thread for a weird day.

Discussion in 'Social Place' started by Shadowprophet, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    This is psychological, as I write this. it is revealing of aspects of my character and possibly my thought algorithms.


    A vending machine can not do your taxes, A watermelon is not a lottery ticket and one person cannot be another person. I am trapped inside my mind, As others are their own. But no one who has ever spoken to me has ever left a conversation and said, That Shadowprophet, What a normal fucking guy he is.

    "It's just never happened". That's not a brag or a jest or a conversation filler, That's the life I've been given.
    before every interaction, I see at least ten different possibilities as an outcome, It's not a decision, It's multiple choice, everything is. It's not free will. It's chaos.

    How can someone even factually make a decision? How are these choices made? are they correct action to take for the outcome you are seeking? With so many possibilities, What happens when someone picks the wrong answer? And that's the problem, There are only so many possible outcomes, It's not infinite, So there is no free will, Not really, It's a set finite number of choices, And we have No choice But to make one or the other, it's a program, By every definition.


    no, The problem is, Some people Can just flow through it, I can't do that.....

    So, I always end up making poor decisions, simply because I over think things to ridiculous proportions.

    I think.
     
  2. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    It's like, Consider this for a moment, Have you ever had a dream, at any point in your life, That later on came to pass? exactly as you dreamed it? I'll bet you have, A lot of people have, I have. I mean, I don't have them all the time, But I've had them before, And I'll bet others have too. The deal is, How can we somehow perceive events that haven't transpired yet? Some people believe in the Dual-process Theory, Dual process theory - Wikipedia That's where your mind and body are actually individual from one another with your mind possibly being in a higher dimension, Some people believe this theory explains things like precognition As our minds are not bound by Spacetime and entropy in the same way our bodies are because our thoughts are energy, So as such we sometimes perceive time "differently"

    Yet, I pose this Question, How could one Dream a Dream Exactly how it indeed does later transpire, Unless somehow, Time was already written? Unless those events those choices were already decided?

    Free will may be an illusion. With a limited capacity to experience reality, How can we be certain that what we imagine is free will, really isn't and free will is just what we call a multiple choice inevitable yet binary outcome?
     
  3. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    I think many people will rather let things happen than try to make things happen. Let decisions be made for them, rather than make them themselves.

    Sometimes people are paralized by decisions...

    Smart people can see multiple choices... the best choice is the decision you are willing to live with. Once you make it, you cant take it back, you can only move forward.

    But committing to a decision is moving forwatd, even if it feels like two steps backwards at times.

    Learning to not be afraid of failing is the key.

    You will fail at times, your decisions may seem like bad ones, but you made them, and you will move forward.

    Sometimes you just have to flip a coin and commit to the result. If you are afraid of the coin, then choose for youreself and dont have to justify it to anyone.

    But you will live with the choice...
     
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  4. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    I mean it's philosophical too, I claim there isn't free will but at the same time, Having life and the ability to choose. is still a gift. no matter how we analyze Joy it's still joyous to behold.
     
  5. Kchoo

    Kchoo At Peace.

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    Where there is free will, there is someone who thinks their will is better.
    So, equality of freedom is not necessarily a given.
    To a certain extent, Freedom, is what those who provide for it, say it is.

    In another view, we are all free to choose our own fate in many respects... we just need to be able to accept the limits we place upon ourselves.

    Some ideas, designed to be freeing, become hinderances to freedom by those who choose to disagree with the method.

    This is why a Supreme Court is so valuable.

    A high council, trusted and empowered to make decisions by the very nature of their post is a great thing.

    It may not be 100 percent perfect, but so far I have seen none better.
     
  6. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    I confuse free will and choice as the same but i'm not sure they carry the same meaning.

    Free will, to me is having the choice to end your own life, being the choice we have over the others in the kingdom.

    Freedom of will in modern day society equals anarchy and is a falicy.

    Your only true freedom is of thought and is sacrosanct. Problem is, now days they are knocking on that door louder than ever and in some cases are already in.

    Free your mind of concern over our condition as it will only change with time. If you care for the human race as many claim to then we are heading in the right direction.

    Paranoia the destroyer.
     
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  7. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    A choice could undermine the will if that choice was not made in the best interest of the will but a free-will does not need choices, a free-will can act upon and serve the best self-interest so swiftly and decisively that for all intent and purposes there was no choice, yet while a free-will may act upon the best interest of self, it may not be in best interest of the whole or of those in close proximity and can do much damage without wisdom...

    ...
     
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