Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

Mathias, what book is this?
"At pages 101 and 102 in John A. Thomas Jr's book, I found four
interesting hand-drawn figures:"


Other things you said make sense. * Reminds me of Schauberger's work in the manner that what's likely going on is the Searls device is accomplishing a kind of horizonally driven electron avalanche, and this is what Schauberger was doing with his devices as well, or so I think, and which also includes heated plates and water vapor injection in to his repulsine type creations, and so it appears that the Searls device is creating a electron avalanche as well, but it's also got some other funky stuff going down what with the existing magnets involved, and ya know it's making a bit of sense as a result.

Now get ready for some twilight Zone material....notice the names involved ~ there's no relationships between any of these people and all the others ...or is there? You decide, so anyways....

The (electron) avalanche effect was discovered by John Sealy Townsend in his work between 1897 and 1901, and is also known as the Townsend discharge. Electron avalanche - Wikipedia

This effect can be enhanced with water vapor...a favorite area for UFO's ...like I need to tell you that huh? Also produces relativistic electron speeds generating so~called Cherenkov radiation, or something akin to that, aka the blue light special ~

Here's what you said;

"The rollers on the middle plate were said to orbit faster (not sure by
how much, but probably around 1.5×) than the rollers on the innermost
plate, and the rollers on outermost roller orbited faster than the
middle plate.

I envisioned a flat (centrifugal) vortex being formed (via frame
dragging) by the movements of the rollers due to the ever-increasing
orbit velocity around the three plates (excuse my bad english -- hope
you get it). I knew that Searl said that electrons were accelerated
outwards from the innermost plate to the outermost plate (via the
action of the rollers, but at the time I didn't think of where those
electrons ended up. If I did think of it, I can't remember that."



I know that the people I'm working with also said they wasted a great amount of energy on Searl's device and others, but I've never thought it was wasted energy, it's just another step forward to understanding.

The biggest issue is understanding what the magnetic field is, where it's coming from, what it's interacting with, and so forth. On Energetic Forums there's been a raging war over the magnetic field ever since Ken Wheeler made his book on Enlightened Magnetism available for free. Probably the most significant text in the last 500 years in it's own right because the magnetic field is the "enabling" field to all of our present technology and yet we really have not studied it enough to actually understand it.

Ken's book is here ~ highly recommended BTW.
http://keyoflife.thomazb.com/pdf/boeger/Uncovering the missing secrets of magnetism - Ken L Wheeler.pdf

 

[Mathias Båge]

The book's name is "ANTIGRAVITY: The Dream Made Reality". Can be found at archive.org .

 

[Gambeir]

The book's name is "ANTIGRAVITY: The Dream Made Reality". Can be found at archive.org .

Thanks, wanted to make sure and BTW, your English is actually better than anyone else's on the entire forum, even Jimmy who is actually a true blue Britisher capable of all the unique and largely mysterious British Slang which only a Britisher can actually understand. See if he spots this post, and if he does will probably deny the whole lot, but secretly it's probably all true.

 

[Mathias Båge]

Thanks, wanted to make sure and BTW, your English is actually better than anyone else's on the entire forum, even Jimmy who is actually a true blue Britisher capable of all the unique and largely mysterious British Slang which only a Britisher can actually understand. See if he spots this post, and if he does will probably deny the whole lot, but secretly it's probably all true.

(blushing) Thank you.

 

[humanoidlord]

hey @Gambeir is it possible to make marck join this conversation?

 

[Gambeir]

hey @Gambeir is it possible to make marck join this conversation?

This here is populated by lunatics...so I'm afraid that's about like people in hell asking for ice water. Not much chance.
That drawing cost him his whole career as an illustrator. He's said he wished he had never made it I think. After he came out with that all his contracts dried up and he had a hell of a time.

All I could do was to tell him that someday there would be a monument to his work somewhere, and I do think that's likely because someday the truth will come out and he will be recognized for his sacrifice. He's a good guy but they punished him for that drawing, believe me he paid a hell of a price for bringing that thing out.

So seriously I know he wouldn't do that. Would be really interesting though. I only had a couple email exchanges with McCandlish when I bought a couple prints of the ARV. He was very forward with what he knew, which I've passed on through my thread over at energetic forums. I did learn though those that he knows a few significant people like Dr. Harold Puthoff.

Dr. Puthoff has shoveled out mountains of scholary papers in his time. Many on space travel/ufo related ect.
H. E. Puthoff

Harold E. Puthoff - Wikipedia
Harold "Hal" Puthoff
Dr. Hal Puthoff - Project Stargate

 

[Mathias Båge]

Alfred Wakeman and the Bipolar Toroidal Vortex (BTV)

I read Olof Alexandersson's book "Living Water" about Viktor
Schauberger's work in the late seventies, but Schauberger only
described singular recirculating vortices, and sometimes
recirculation wasn't even obvious in Schauberger's figures and
text, at least not to me.

In early 2001 I stumbled upon an article published in Charles Yost's
magazine "Electric Spacecraft Journal" about the work of Alfred
Wakeman. He had experimented with vortices in water using ink to
trace the flows. I don't know how he created those vortices in the
water (nor how he injected the ink). After emailing him (more than
ten years ago) if I could have more details about his work, his
response was: "To what end?". I considered my motives for a while, but
unfortunately never got around to write him back. However, a daughter
of his, Laurel Wakeman, actually lives here in Sweden! Hmmm.....

Now, back to his work: Wakeman could isolate three parts of the
resulting water/ink vortex.

Figure 1:

The end result is this — a bipolar toroidal vortex (BTV):

Figure 2:

Lo and behold: bipolar vortices as opposed to the singular ones I knew
of from Schauberger's work!

After this revelation, I began to think of different permutations of
the above flows, and since Wakeman's work only considered
co-rotation, I added counter-rotation, with limiting
barriers (to prevent bipolar flows) in two cases. The result was this
table (it's old & ugly and really should be redone with better tools):

(this table appears in another paper at Mathias Båge: PDF dokument)

Referring to figure 1, the vortex flow (a) is the primary flow, and
the toroid flow (b) is a secondary flow (i.e. a "side effect" or
artifact of the vortex flow), and together they form what I call a
hemisphere.

Radial implies a flatter vortex flow along the "equatorial plane", either inwards
towards the center, or outwards towards the equator(s).
Axial implies a funnel-shaped vortex flow into/out from the "poles".

Small symbols inside the tori ("smoke rings") indicate the rotational
direction of each hemisphere: · (arrow point) indicates rotation
out from the page, and × (arrow feathers) indicate rotation into the page.

Two such hemispheres "stacked" vertically share an "equatorial plane"
between them. These hemispheres will either co-rotate or
counter-rotate.

OK. We have two hemispheres, and that makes a sphere, right? That
sphere (or spheroid) is important for what we're trying to achieve,
IMNSHO.

----------------------

This was vortical flows in water. Now, can similar flows be created in other
media?

/Mathias Båge

 

[Area201]

@Gambeir

When you get a chance, can you adress two points I made here earlier. One was this..

"I'm not catching the Jewish references. It sounds like you are saying Jews took the Nazi blueprints from the concentration camps back to Israel?... which doesn't make sense to me. There was an area in Silesia (now Poland) where they have a "fly trap" contraption and black project working on the Glock or Nazi Bell (sounds like what the ARVs are based off). Nazis were absorbed the US and into these black projects to continue their work and finish them. I would imagine Israel/Jews would have an issue with Nazis and working with them, one of the 64 reasons for the secrecy."

Second one - some YouTuber name Aliens intist is pushing a hover board, is that the same guy you referenced here about being a shill possibly? HoverBros.com

 

[3FEL9]

I'm watching the documentary Gambeir posted on page #1

In 1988 at a US Air show the working ARVs were presented for selected VIP + 1 outsider

And they use Zero Point energy to feed the capacitor flux drive

Makes me wonder how much progress has been done on this tech during last 30 years

I think Tesla will be the first civilian company licensing ^^

No need for any lithium batteries in their next vehicles

So ?

 

[Mathias Båge]

The next revelation — "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All"

In late 2002, I realized that the old KeelyNet file ALTSCI1.ASC
contained very important information for my quest to build a flying
saucer (see my paper
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/GLCRA-MAGVID-annotated.pdf
for details, and this post is a summary of the paper).

The ALTSCI1.ASC file contains a number of USENET posts from September
1995 that Jerry Decker @ KeelyNet had saved to his file area. The
posts claim to reveal hidden flying saucer technology from american
black projects.

I printed it and read if very carefully (and made marginal notes), and
was surprised and impressed by what they revealed!

The device(s) described in these mysterious USENET posts (reproduced
in my paper) answered my question: how can you create vortex flow in
medias other than e.g. water & air?!

The USENET posts actually present two different ways to create
electric vortices for spacecraft propulsion!
I.e. vortices of electrons, or whatever causes electric
potential/fields, mediates Coulumb forces, and orbit atomic nuclei — I
don't want to go into that discussion right now.

The fact that the USENET posts showed two ways to create
electric vortices is — in my opinion — very significant, and surely
adds some credence to it: someone had actually tried one method
(method #1: a conductive central magnetic pole through which pulsed DC
is passed axially), but found a better method later (method #2: four
two-phase coils [just like Tesla's motor] with a central magnetic
pole, maybe not necessarily with a core). Here's my interpretation of
method #2:

Figure 1: method #2

The dimly rendered, "equatorially" aligned virtual bar magnet
(left end reddish, right end blueish) in the center is not a
physical bar magnet, but is created by the four two-phase coils
that surround the central magnetic pole (a static magnet with a green
coil — don't think the core is necessary [cf. sump with coil reported
by abductees]).

The two-phase coils are fed AC pairwise 90° (sine-cosine) out of
phase, i.e. just like in a two-phase electric motor. This causes the
virtual bar magnet to rotate, and together with the static field of
the central magnetic pole, free electrons are forced to move in a
Bipolar Toroid Vortex flow by way of Lorentz force deflection
(see my previous Alien Expanse post titled Alfred Wakeman and the
Bipolar Toroidal Vortex (BTV)). At least that's what I believe,
and what the "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All" USENET posts might hint
at.

The electric vortices thus created — according to the USENET posts
(see my paper) — are counter-rotating and will generate a sheet
of electrons enveloping the whole spacecraft! (Note: in space there's
no air, but some of hydrogen ions to form a BTV from).

A spacecraft using this device for propulsion is claimed to be FTL
capable.

The device based on method #2 is called MAGVID by some people,
and I've stuck with that acronym.

And, BTW, the USENET posts also discuss FTL communication.

/Mathias Båge

 

[Area201]

Meant AlienScientist and hoverbrothers.com

(Sometimes I'm on a red light when I quick post here)

He also suggests Lazar is a phony because he thinks the W-2 form is fake and some hiker was able to get to Nellis area and didn't see anything. I disagree but that's a side issue.

 

[Gambeir]

@Gambeir

When you get a chance, can you adress two points I made here earlier. One was this..

"I'm not catching the Jewish references. It sounds like you are saying Jews took the Nazi blueprints from the concentration camps back to Israel?... which doesn't make sense to me. There was an area in Silesia (now Poland) where they have a "fly trap" contraption and black project working on the Glock or Nazi Bell (sounds like what the ARVs are based off). Nazis were absorbed the US and into these black projects to continue their work and finish them. I would imagine Israel/Jews would have an issue with Nazis and working with them, one of the 64 reasons for the secrecy."

Second one - some YouTuber name Aliens intist is pushing a hover board, is that the same guy you referenced here about being a shill possibly? HoverBros.com

Sorry Zeke, I didn't catch you asking me that previously, but of course. First off, I didn't know Alienscientist was "now" involved with a hoverboard. If you have a link post it for me so I can look it over. I don't know if he is or is not a shill.
He is a very intelligent and highly educated person, but so are many others, yet again I don't have a flying saucer in the driveway do I?

At any rate, I'd like to see what Alienscientist is now saying about a Hoverboard. That will answer the question of whether or not he's a shill (in my mind) It all depends on what he's saying and I don't know what that is.

Now this other question might be Entitled: The Secret Playgrounds.

One of the concepts I evolved in thinking about the ARV lead me to form a hypothesis to explain the history of UFO's. This hypothesis is that many of the UFO's which began showing up in numbers almost immediately after WWII, were terrestrial, but they were neither American nor Soviets, and neither super power knew who they belonged to. Both superpowers became extremely paranoid and were launched into a general state of panic for at least a decade if not more. Certainly the known records of America's Aviation Corporations show they were immediately involved in a drive to unlock the secrets to anti~gravity. Some of these companies went totally black. Hiller Aviation being the most notable here: Totally absorbed.

The issue, or problem as the case really seems to be, is when you realize that these research vehicles American Aviation Corporations have developed are still light years behind what appears to be real UFO's showing up at the same time, such as the mass sighting famously photographed flying in formation over the White House when Harry Truman was President.

So on one hand it looks like the entire US Aviation Industry suddenly goes bonkers on studying so~called anti~gravity immediately after the War, yet what they first develop is clearly not anti~gravity vehicles, though they look just like flying Saucers and do have amazing capability in some areas, but they are way inferior to anti~gravity saucers and they know this. So then the question comes up, if these are neither: Not Saucers of the Super Powers, and if they aren't really Aliens, then who has this technology? At this same epoch of time the struggling tiny nation of Israel finds it has the backing of the Western Nations.

So now I asked myself a question, but putting aside aliens and just considering flying saucers, and which I know must be terrestrial built by human beings just by looking at the images. Some of these things are not alien machines so who's are they then if they aren't those of the USAF or the Peoples Air Defense Forces?

Next question: What's more logical and more believable; that the flying saucers are Nazi's or that they are Jewish?

One is a destroyed nation state, the other is the holy land where every refugee is flowing towards and to which the worlds Jewish global wealth is also flooding into. Add to this the knowledge that the intelligentsia of the Jews were forced to work on all manner of Nazi projects, and in many case their former masters had literally tossed down their guns and run off in to the woods as Allied tanks approached.

Consider yourself a Jewish Slave whose suddenly left in an empty secret base. All you have in the whole world are the rags you've been forced to wear and so now what are you going to do? Remember here, this only takes one really clever or smart dude to understand the situation and to be at the right location. The SS might have murdered everyone else but this guy has hidden and the enemy has now run off. He/She is left all alone with the most secret research project papers of the Third Reich.

The Jews also had developed their own underground information system. It's entirely possible and probable that the information any of them had about secret Nazi project was forwarded to a central repository body. Obviously this would have been their religious leaders in exile.

Now here, evidently, is where American Antigravity was at by 1950, and I say this because evidently this design was enough to die for. So what do you do when you don't have anti`gravity but need a flying saucer? Would you kill for it?

A good example showing that America didn't have anti~gravity by 1950 is the case of the little known Saucer Design of Nick Stasinos, shown in the photo is a model. No known machines were ever built is the official story. Nick was a graduate of the Northrup school of aviation. The model he designed is more commonly known as the Northrup NS~97, but Northrup never ...cough...excuse me...ever made this machine...or did they? You decide but many early UFO reports involve what seems to be a precise descriptions of Nicks Stasions Flying Saucer complete with fiery ring around the outside edges, noise making which is untypical, and so forth.

The Northrop NS-97 concept, was designed by Nick Stasinos in 1950. Nick was an engineering graduate of the Northrop Aeronautical Institute. Stasinos's disc had a revolving outer shell and held eight turbo-jet ports. The center of the disc stayed stationary, along with the cockpit for the pilot. Two main jets provided the push and the eight turbo-jets provided the spin. The original Stasinos photos are archived at the Project SIGN Research Center. Interestingly, I think, Stasino's died on one of Los Angeles freeways. Supposedly by way of heart attack. Remember here....this is 1950.

The design was featured in The Ogden Standard-Examiner from Ogden, Utah · Page 24. 1950 A tiny thumbnail image can be seen here of that page.https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/31065931/
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/31065931/

So now who's got real flying saucers?

A. Escaped Nazi's?
B. The Soviets?
C. The Americans?
D. Alaska?
C. Israel?

The most likely people to have understood and then transported the knowledge back to another nation were the Jewish Intelligentsia. It's just a deduction, one which I think is worth considering in light of the power which this tiny nation somewhat quickly evolved and the apparent support, or at least non~intervention that other nations took towards it.

This idea of Israel becoming the first nation outside of the collapsed Third Reich to hold the secrets to Antigravity is, of course, a highly speculative one.

 

[Gambeir]

The next revelation — "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All"

In late 2002, I realized that the old KeelyNet file ALTSCI1.ASC
contained very important information for my quest to build a flying
saucer (see my paper
http://blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bage/GLCRA-MAGVID-annotated.pdf
for details, and this post is a summary of the paper).

The ALTSCI1.ASC file contains a number of USENET posts from September
1995 that Jerry Decker @ KeelyNet had saved to his file area. The
posts claim to reveal hidden flying saucer technology from american
black projects.

I printed it and read if very carefully (and made marginal notes), and
was surprised and impressed by what they revealed!

The device(s) described in these mysterious USENET posts (reproduced
in my paper) answered my question: how can you create vortex flow in
medias other than e.g. water & air?!

The USENET posts actually present two different ways to create
electric vortices for spacecraft propulsion!
I.e. vortices of electrons, or whatever causes electric
potential/fields, mediates Coulumb forces, and orbit atomic nuclei — I
don't want to go into that discussion right now.

The fact that the USENET posts showed two ways to create
electric vortices is — in my opinion — very significant, and surely
adds some credence to it: someone had actually tried one method
(method #1: a conductive central magnetic pole through which pulsed DC
is passed axially), but found a better method later (method #2: four
two-phase coils [just like Tesla's motor] with a central magnetic
pole, maybe not necessarily with a core). Here's my interpretation of
method #2:

Figure 1: method #2

The dimly rendered, "equatorially" aligned virtual bar magnet
(left end reddish, right end blueish) in the center is not a
physical bar magnet, but is created by the four two-phase coils
that surround the central magnetic pole (a static magnet with a green
coil — don't think the core is necessary [cf. sump with coil reported
by abductees]).

The two-phase coils are fed AC pairwise 90° (sine-cosine) out of
phase, i.e. just like in a two-phase electric motor. This causes the
virtual bar magnet to rotate, and together with the static field of
the central magnetic pole, free electrons are forced to move in a
Bipolar Toroid Vortex flow by way of Lorentz force deflection
(see my previous Alien Expanse post titled Alfred Wakeman and the
Bipolar Toroidal Vortex (BTV)). At least that's what I believe,
and what the "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All" USENET posts might hint
at.

The electric vortices thus created — according to the USENET posts
(see my paper) — are counter-rotating and will generate a sheet
of electrons enveloping the whole spacecraft! (Note: in space there's
no air, but some of hydrogen ions to form a BTV from).

A spacecraft using this device for propulsion is claimed to be FTL
capable.

The device based on method #2 is called MAGVID by some people,
and I've stuck with that acronym.

And, BTW, the USENET posts also discuss FTL communication.

/Mathias Båge

Brilliant stuff Mathias, both posts, and really interesting. I love these ideas: Really creative and useful. You've gone and done a lot of work and I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have a chance to see this material. Very valuable stuff, I think, and to me it's always useful to see what others come up with, where they find things, it's amazing and wonderful.

What you say about the "Virtual Core" is really helpful. Makes more sense and as we go forwards it will likely make even more sense, possibly for reasons we can't imagine right now. Interesting as all get out! Slang link below for you.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=as all get out

I'd like to post this stuff on the other forum but I'm a little pissed at their quality control and lack of action. Energetic idiots can't seem to fix the simple problem of memberships. Can't believe how poorly operated that site is.

 

[Mathias Båge]

My hypothesis: The MAGVID is the ARV's FTL propulsion system

Unfortunately, the ARV came to my attention very late, in 2013, after
I watched Mark McCandlish presentation in the video from Steven
Greer's Disclosure Project event in 2001 at the National Press Club in
Washington, DC.

McCandlish's famous drawing of the ARV was very important to me,
because it gave further credence to the claims made by the person
behind the "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All" USENET posts.

Here's my interpretation of this drawing:

Looking at it, I made my own conclusions based on what I'd learned
about the MAGVID and the Thomas Townsend Brown gravitator:

1. the large coil "package" that wraps around the spherical cabin is
   actually the four two-phase coils of a MAGVID.
   
   In McCandlish's drawing, the windings are shown to wrap around the
   cabin (i.e. axially), but I think that Brad Sorenson probably didn't
   notice exactly how the coil "package" was constructed. McCandlish
   might have concluded that the coil "package" consisted of just one big
   axially wound coil, because that's more "obvious" or "normal" if you
   think that it's part of a Tesla coil, and it's my firm belief
   that there's no Tesla coil in the ARV at all! Nor any
   homopolar generator with a rotating disc under the pilot's feet!
   
   A MAGVID coil "package" will instead consist of four big coils that
   each are wound radially and wrapped around the cabin in four separate
   pieces (see figure 1 in my previous Alien Expanse post titled The
   next revelation — "GroomLake`Colonel`Reveals`All").
   
2. the central column is the MAGVID's central magnetic (static) pole.
   
3. the big capacitor array at the bottom of the craft is a Thomas
   Townsend Brown gravitator (British patent #300311) but with a
   tapering profile. Years ago, I always believed that a gravitator
   must be tapered to work properly. However, some people claim
   that the top positive plate must be larger than the bottom negative
   plate (which is not the case in the ARV). And, curiously: the
   McCandlish drawing depicts a stack of 9 gravitator capacitor plates,
   which would imply the same polarity on either end of the stack,
   i.e. (| is the dielectric): +|-|+|-|+|-|+|-|+. Not sure if
   such a gravitator will work.
   
   In the ARV, I think the gravitator is not the propulsive part of a FTL
   propulsion system, since that'd be the MAGVID. In my view, the
   gravitator may actually serve two purposes:
   1. when the MAGVID is turned off, the gravitator can be used to
      park the craft by letting it hover. Brad Sorenson reported that the
      hovering ARV's on display in the hangar were slowly undulating, like
      ships in the docks, and that this motion might be a tell-tale sign
      of the capacitor array pie segments being slowly charged/discharged
      in a controlled sequence designed to keep the parked craft level and
      somewhat steady. I also assume that the crafts on display were
      actually powereded externally in the hangar, because the gravitator
      is not a free energy device in this configuration, but a gravitator
      might be used in a rotating free energy device (but no such thing
      can be seen in McCandlish's drawing).
      
      It is pretty obvious why you want the MAGVID to be turned off while
      the craft is parked, because otherwise you'd be fried by the intense
      gamma/X ray radiation pretty fast if you got anywhere near it!
      
   2. when the MAGVID is turned on, the gravitator might be used to
      distort the large spheroidal bipolar toroida vortex (BTV) "sheet" of
      electrons that envelops the craft. By distorting the electron BTV,
      you could control the craft's pitch, roll, yaw, and flight
      direction.
      
      Actually, I have an unverified report about another way to distort
      the spheroidal electron BTV for control purposes, but will write
      about it in coming post.
   A Thomas Townsend Brown gravitator also must be pulsed, because
   when the dielectric is saturated, the propulsive effect diminish, so
   you must continually charge and discharge the capacitor array pie
   segments for it to work. That's reason why they have 48 slices.

I believe this spheroidal sheet/BTV of electrons is a kind of
"bubble", inside of which the normal laws of nature works as usual,
i.e. speed of light haven't changed much (if at all), all physical
constans remain the same, etc. Otherwise, the craft's crew would die
instantly. The "bubble" might also create a "local universe" of sorts
for the craft, which enables the craft to defy the normal inertial
"laws" without harming the crew.

/Mathias Båge

 

[Mathias Båge]

Brilliant stuff Mathias, both posts, and really interesting. I love these ideas: Really creative and useful. You've gone and done a lot of work and I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have a chance to see this material. Very valuable stuff, I think, and to me it's always useful to see what others come up with, where they find things, it's amazing and wonderful.

What you say about the "Virtual Core" is really helpful.

Thank you!

And, BTW: I wrote "virtual magnet".

Makes more sense and as we go forwards it will likely make even more sense, possibly for reasons we can't imagine right now. Interesting as all get out! Slang link below for you.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=as all get out

I'd like to post this stuff on the other forum but I'm a little pissed at their quality control and lack of action. Energetic idiots can't seem to fix the simple problem of memberships. Can't believe how poorly operated that site is.

Must be a problem with an admin not doing his/hers job. Can you contact the admin from the web interface somehow, without emailing admin@energeticforum.com?

/Mathias Båge

 

[Gambeir]

Problem logging back in and was locked out for a few minutes. Yes I know you called it a virtual magnet. It's not a virtual core. Playing fast an lose I am.
Drawing looks good.

" Can you contact the admin from the web interface somehow, without emailing admin@energeticforum.com?

I've tried and I've bitched and I have had others do the same. Ya know, I have no idea what their freaking problem is, but hey it's their loss. Looks like Alien Expanse might just find itself a whole new crowd and develop it's own sub field of alternative energy discussion.

I'm thinking about just putting up a post saying that due to a complete disregard for repeated requests to admit new members I've been forced to relocate to Alien Expanse. So ya know, it's like to hell with them then: Blithering idiots.

Websites are worth money ya know, if they are so immune to that need, then it's time to move along is what I'm thinking. Maybe it's like a honey pot, a corporate black op filled with over~seers. They are there, the deniers and gate keepers. People that should have been banned long ago, yet they are still there.

The people here are all survivors of a failed corporate black op ya know. All survivors of a site called Alien Hub that went down like the RMS Lusitania, torpedoed without warning and shut down overnight. No lifeboats or nothing. We all were rescued by the Fortean Times Forum and then Nivek created this site. So this is our new home and I try to help promote it when I can.

Just made plug the other day for this site BTW.

 

[Gambeir]

What about the rest of the refugee's, you folks ready for a brave new world yet?

Ya want flying cars, flying suits, free energy, home gardening, bartering, trading, home manufacturing, local politics, teaching groups, private skill trainers, and God knows what all else?

You all ready to accept having to deal with another group of people. We could build a firewall and they would need pass words to get here if need be. LOL!

 

[AlterEgo]

I want to know more about the ARVs use of Zero Point Energy

No juice no use

 

[Area201]

Sorry Zeke, I didn't catch you asking me that previously, but of course. First off, I didn't know Alienscientist was "now" involved with a hoverboard. If you have a link post it for me so I can look it over. I don't know if he is or is not a shill.
He is a very intelligent and highly educated person, but so are many others, yet again I don't have a flying saucer in the driveway do I?
At any rate, I'd like to see what Alienscientist is now saying about a Hoverboard. That will answer the question of whether or not he's a shill (in my mind) It all depends on what he's saying and I don't know what that is..

Interesting turn of events. Let me clarify a bit. I watched him get interviewed by Kyle (aka UFO Proof) and subscribed to his YT channel. He launched a crowdfunding research campaign on hoverbrothers.com into all exotic technology. Check out the list of experiments he was/is planning below.

Unfortunately, it appears his partner Kenneth Griggs in this endeavor with PhD and behind PhOENIX theory: The Physics Of Entanglements Networks and Information eXchanges, has started acting shady and accusing him of being greedy. AlienScientist explains in his latest video the details - stemming from him receiving some BitCoin as a reward for a film he was featured in earlier. Sounds like a BS excuse. They were about to meet up and go over finding a lab location in Las Vegas, getting the projects going, and so on.

As a consequence AlienScientist decided to bail on the public investment part and is refunding everyone's money. He's basically a regular physics guy interested in experimenting with exotic technology without the multi trillion dollar black budget. Experiment #6 if he ever gets that far, has to do with Die Glocke.

One other interesting bit of info he said was that when he came home the front door to his residence was open (wide). He claims he always locks it. Nothing too crazy, maybe he left it open, but he should get a security system/camera in place. Some people in the comments are theorizing the partner got recruited into black projects. Was he a fraud or bought out? We don't know what's the deal or heard his side of the story.

EXPERIMENT 1
LEVITATING A SILICATE BLOCK USING AN INDUCED ANTIMATTER SHIELD OR “DIRAC HOLE” SURFACE.
This experiment is #1 on our list because A. It’s never been attempted before. B. It’s relatively easy and inexpensive. & C. It has readily patentable and highly profitable applications which can immediately be leased to industry and used to fund further experiments and launch the next phase of the company.

EXPERIMENT 2
IS GRAVITY A CONSEQUENCE OF QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT?
Gravity is a tough nut to crack, there is just no doubt about it. In comparison, the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces are a walk in the park. Scientists still can’t explain the nature of gravity, though how it works is rather well understood. The current best theory regarding gravity goes all the way back to Einstein’s general theory of relativity, but there has been no way to reconcile it with quantum mechanics. Some physicists suggest it could be a particle called the graviton. But proving that such a particle exists has been frustrating, because it would be so weak that it would be very nearly impossible to measure its force. In this new effort, neither team is suggesting that their experiment could reconcile gravity and quantum mechanics. Instead, they are claiming that if such an experiment is successful, it would very nearly prove that it should be possible to do it.

EXPERIMENT 3
ELECTROGRAVITY: TESTING THE BIEFELD BROWN EFFECT INSIDE OF A VACUUM CHAMBER.
We will be producing the experiments of others like Jean Louis Naudin. Doing accurate quantitative measurements for the delta-V or lift coefficient for these type of (suspected ion-wind) lifters.

EXPERIMENT 4
TESTING THE NASA EM-DRIVE, AND RF RESONANT CAVITY THRUSTER TECHNOLOGY

EXPERIMENT 5
PROJECT SKYVAULT: TESTING MICROWAVE AND BEAM PROPULSION TECHNOLOGIES.
Including but not limited to, metamaterial resonance cavity thrusters, Microwave Phase Conjugation Technology, microwave laser pulse ion-blast propulsion, etc.

EXPERIMENT 6
XERUM 525, AND THE DIE GLOCKE REPRODUCTION EXPERIMENTS
Experimenting with Mercury Amalgams and Plasmas to seek an accurate formulation of Xerum 525. Attempting to replicate or built a mercury plasma vortex drive.

EXPERIMENT 7
ANTIMATTER PRODUCTION AND CONFINEMENT TECHNOLOGY EXPERIMENTS.

EXPERIMENT 8
ACTIVE INVISIBILITY CLOAKING
Experiments with artificially generated mirage effects which can be used to cloak or hide objects from sight.

EXPERIMENT 9
PASSIVE INVISIBILITY CLOAKING
Experiments with metamaterials and vertex mapping as a method for hiding objects from certain frequency bands.

EXPERIMENT 10
RAP – RAPID ATOMIC PRINTER
Methods and techniques allowing for the construction of a rapid atomic 3D printer, which can print structures atom by atom, at a highly accelerated rate.

EXPERIMENT 11
PORTALS, WORMHOLES, STAR GATES, AND TELEPORTER TECHNOLOGY
We are looking into way to entangle entirely separate regions of space to the point where you can open small portals or wormholes across distances of space… Still highly speculative, but it’s something we are looking into and have some small scale experiments we’d like to try. Scientists have already teleported light. We want to teleport macroscopic matter.

EXPERIMENT 12
QUANTUM COMPUTERS WITHIN NUCLEI
Nuclear Quantum Computers.

…Plus Many, many more experiments to come! We want to establish a secondary testing and verification laboratory to keep other groups out there in check and replicate their experiments for legitimate science purposes. A publicly funded outreach & education program to teach the public more about these newly emerging technologies." - hoverbrothers.com

 

[Gambeir]

This is to address AlterEgo's question about so called Zero Point Energy in these machines, and also to give you a measure to judge others by. I am a rather simple guy. I have for example a 1941 dodge pickup truck in the front yard.

My newest car is 28 years old that I bought new 28 years ago with my late father. The thing I like about Mathias is that his works shows down to earth technology somebody like me can understand. It's not something I need a PHD in physics and quantum elecrodynamics to understand. I'm skeptical of high brow flash marketing and someone with student loan debts up the ying yang trying to avoid military service for debt relief ~ Understand?

First off, I think Mathias is showing important and real information, everyday sort of technology you can build or find or buy. Off the shelf or doability is high on my list of priorities. He is likely to have his own ideas and I would defer to those most likely. I'm neither a scientist nor an electrical engineer. I barley understand half of this stuff, and there's plenty of people right here that probably understand a great deal more than I ever will. Having said that this is what I have arrived at.

The first thing is these machines don't use Zero Point energy. They harvest energy from their environment. Only when the machine becomes super~luminal or FTL, faster than light, does theory say it should then be possible for over~unity and generate more power than it uses: That's my understanding, but there's plenty of free energy up over our heads. About 200 feet over our heads in the form of ions which are continually renewed from space. This is one of the primary energy sources for these vehicles.

Energy is defined by ideas of mass, speed, time, and distance, and so when we change these, we change the measure of energy. I keep telling these people involved in free energy that the simple way to energy savings is to effect the local environment, but they aren't listening to me. After all, I can barely figure out car wiring so what could I possibly know right?

Well first off, there is an inverse correlation between speed and power consumption, what this means is that if you slow the speed of light the power it takes to move energy is reduced, or something like that, but so then there is a work~around solution to Einsteins prohibition on light speed. This work around is caused by slowing light in an immediate locality. Remember here now, light=energy, OK? Got that one?

So then, one method, because there are always more than one way you know, is by using electro~optically reactive materials to slow light; of which Quartz and other minerals, along with more modern alloys can do. These modern materials are almost certain to have been designed for this purpose IMO.

This also means these machines don't really need to move to travel or to become invisible. The power feed through their gravitators, or capacitors as they are more commonly called, does this naturally because energy=light slowed then warps space and monkeys with time. Quartz ,due to it's electro~optical refractive index, can do this. This is why quartz is the base material in the ARV's so called capacitors/gravitators: Mathias is calling them Gravitators, which is a more historically accurate word because of their use.

Now ya see with something like Quartz the higher the refractive index, the more time it takes for energy to navigate it's way through the matrix of a gravitator/capacitor. End result is slowed light or energy and the subsequent effects that result from this: Understand? See, this is all pretty straight forward stuff to gather the gist of.

Now, time, space, and distance are all measures of dimensions. What do you suppose happens when you begin screwing around with these dimensions? That's right, you get warped. Remember these two rules: Never apply full power first, and Don't do anything Stupid! I have that last one on my cars dashboard.

So now we're taking parts of our own dimension and distorting them from the rest of the local environment. You see how that works? So then, light is supposed to move at X speed in this joint we call home, and electricity is supposed to move at Z speed. You've now changed these: Expect Alice In Wonderland Effects.

UFO's are of course noted for hanging around HV Power lines, Storm Clouds, Clouds, Power lines, Volcano's, lightning Storms, Dams, Military Bases (High Power Radar), High Power Broadcasting Towers, and I guess a few others. There's a reason for this of course. They can wirelessly hijack this energy to charge up their capacitors. This is now known technology once denied as some Telsa mumbo jumbo, but now of course we have wireless phone chargers and wireless this that and the other thing.

The ARV is also capable of obtaining energy from the surrounding atmosphere which is itself charged constantly from space. Go to Ion Power Groups for a quick run down on atmospheric ions. They have a load of material. Highly recommended.
How Ion harvesting Works On Earth - Ion Power Group

I hope this helps answer some questions, and you might think this is all there is to it, but you would be wrong. Understand that OK, you're not getting everything, just the opening act so that you've some notion of how this crap all works.

Gravity is a highly debatable topic, but it seem apparent that one way to escape gravity is to modify your local environment; to distort the environment around you distorts the energy it takes to lift an object, which is the secret here. Understanding these basic ideas goes a long ways towards understanding UFO's in general. Like why the aren't seen, why the photo's are always fuzzy, or almost always so, and why they do the things they do.

The real question I have is why do camera's capture them when the eye can't see them? I can only think how a camera is actually taking a snapshot of time and not just frames per second. There may be something to this since they are now somewhat desperately working on so~called Quantum Radar, ah...like to see what exactly?

I hope this hasn't bored the living socks off everyone.