Apollo 11 was Followed by a UFO

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  1. Toroid

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    Buzz Aldrin claims Apollo 11 was being followed by a UFO. This reminds me of the sighting Christopher Columbus had in 1492. During our discoveries throughout history there seems to be an intelligence present to witness the milestone.
    Buzz Aldrin Discloses That Apollo 11 Was Being Followed By A UFO – Disclose.tv
    Apollo 11 - Wikipedia
    1492 light sighting - Wikipedia

    www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=FyTtOeYRmoA
     
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  2. CasualBystander

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    The UFO was probably lost and followed the first spacecraft that it saw.
     
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  3. ImmortalLegend527

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    Most likely one of the 7 angels that have been residing on earth every since they were cast from where ever they were cast from.
     
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  4. August

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    I read it was the second stage of their Saturn 5 that followed them out there. But that to me seems implausible.
     
  5. Toroid

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    They radioed mission control to inquire about that.
     
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  6. August

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    Yes they said it was 6,000 miles away. That doesn't leave them with much for an answer as to what or who it was that was following them . Intriguing to say the least.
     
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  7. CasualBystander

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    What happened to the Saturn V stages:
    What Happened to all the Saturn V Rocket Stages?

    So if something was following them on the outbound leg it was an S-IVB.

    If it was following them back to earth it was a UFO that was lost.

    Most people don't understand translunar injection orbits. The spacecraft leaves earth orbit with just enough velocity to pass the earth/moon junction, and thereafter falls toward the moon. They needed a retro burn to give them a low circular lunar orbit.

    The S-IVB apparently just did a slingshot flyby to go into a solar orbit, unless commanded otherwise.

    Talking to the Farside: Apollo S-IVB Stage Relay (1963)
    The stage would then vent residual propellants and ignite auxiliary rocket motors to place itself on a course away from the CSM-LM combination.

    So by the time the astronauts reached the moon the stage could conceivably be 6000 miles away.
     
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  8. August

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    The third stages of the first four Apollo lunar missions (8, 10, 11 and 12) were placed in a heliocentric orbit, while those of subsequent missions (13 on) were targeted at the moon.
     
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  9. CasualBystander

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    I don't believe that they were "placed" in a heliocentric orbit. They did a "get it the f*ck away from the capsule" burn that resulted in a heliocentric orbit.

    And S-IVB 12 is in earth orbit (they thought it was a captured asteroid until they discovered it was covered in white paint).
     
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  10. Sheltie

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    I think it's more interesting what we don't see than what we do see. There have been many times NASA has shut down transmissions, blaming technical issues, just as unexplained anomalies began.
     
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  11. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    It is much easier to discuss explained anomalies so I don't blame them.

    As a side note: there were fairing panels and other trash that followed Apollo out to the moon.
     
  12. Dundee

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    Buzz Aldrin described it as a cylinder. About 20+ years ago i worked with a bloke who had previously worked at Tidbinbilla tracking an relaying the whole Apollo 11 event when Australia was in the position and the US was not. It took some coaxing to get him to talk. But in the wee small hours in a server/tech room he told me that he heard first hand the whole Aliens on the rim of the crater conversation with Armstrong happen on the private channel. It was a long time ago now but the essence of the relevant part off the conversation between NASA and Armstrong went something like (Armstrong) So what do I say, they (the other space craft) are just sitting there. (NASA), you say nothing, your about to go live to X 100 million people. He also said with a laugh if you know where to look even today (back then) you can see stuff your not supposed to. I asked what, he said there was a very small group of photos accidentally released by NASA where you can see things you shouldn't in the reflection of the helmet glare shields. He said NASA realized this and were more careful but a few snook past and are still out there to be seen if you know where to look and what to look at. When I quizzed him more he sort of laughed and said with a very smugish grin. "If I am interested", to come around to his place one weekend and he will show me photos that will curl my whiskers. I agreed of course but he cancelled due to unexpected family commitments. We rescheduled, but he good crook (he was quite old back then) and had time off, and I got the retrenched from the job and it just never happened sadly. But he did say that he eventually met Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins on some sort of thank you tour of the places that helped them when they were up there. He said that as one of the few who heard all the relayed transmissions he was shown photos that were mind blowing. But obviously at the time was sworn to secrecy. He was an old dude then so I imagine he is long dead now.
    One of those missed opportunities. There was a lot more to the conversation of course but in essence he confirmed the whole Aliens on the crater story and being followed on the trip. And this was, I guess it had to be easy 20 years or more ago now, so it was long before the days of the internet full of conspiracy theory websites. Back then we were still using 300 and 1200 baud modems and telnet to surf the net, those that had the net that is. Most of us were still using bulletin boards. So it well predated all the websites that now talk about the aliens on the crater thing. Please don't ask for an accurate time, my best guess is 2o plus years as my eldest son just turned 28 and he was only a toddler at the time i worked where I did. You have to remember when I first got the Internet, I had a 300 baud modem and a dial in line. I reckon i used linux Slackware 1. something then went to windows 3.1. In those days it predated browsers and the net was a dial in and ftp and telnet sessions into places like ftp.funet.fi :) I remember installing winsock and Netscape navigator and seeing my first web pages. So although everyone and their dog knows the aliens on the crater story now. This was well and truly a new story when I first heard it. I guess it probably existed as a text story on some ftp site somewhere though.
     
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  13. CasualBystander

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    If you can locate some of these NASA photos that would be nice.

    I'm on the fence about aliens.

    Any idea what the aliens were doing on the moon?

    And how large was Aldrin's cylinder?
     
  14. Dundee

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    I did try and get in touch with him a few years later but couldn't locate him. Funnily enough I now live in the approximate district that he used to live. Actually I might ask a couple of the old timers down the local pub if they know anything about if he is still alive. I hadn't thought about any of this really until I saw this thread.
    As for what they were doing, it was a long time ago now but my recollection was that they were just there. I don't think any of them saw any beings of any sort. As far as i remember it was much the same as the conspiracy theory story we have all read, there were just a number of craft lined up...I was going to say on the rim of a crater, but I don't know if he said that or that come from the stories I have read since? Too long ago. All i can say for sure is that he said they were there, by they he meant that Armstrong was referring to craft, not aliens. As for the number, if he told me I don't remember but I am sure he said "they" my impression was more than 1 or 2.

    The cylinder, hell now your stretching my memory. I don't think he said anything about the Apollo crew keeping it quiet, or asking about debris or other parts of the rocket. I think that part for me has come from Auldrins interviews on TV and you tube. On the clips and interviews I have seen Auldrin is a little non committal about what they thought it was. The part the old guy told me however was only a little different but with some significance. He said they all had some concern that this thing was pretty much flanking them from a distance for a long time, and that they used a camera..I think a hand held camera? to zoom in and look and that's where they identified it as a cylinder. Size? don't recall if he said, but I know it was a distance away as they needed the zoom on the camera to get a good look. But the difference was that like I said in the clips we see Auldrin is very non committal as to what it was, the old guy indicated that in person he had no such doubts and that he well and truly considered it to be not debris, but a manned craft of some nature. He did say that he saw the original, or copies of the original photo's, that he was shown them by the crew, (he didn't say which one I don't think) and that he held them in his hand to look at them. As for the other things he was going to show me, had I visited, he never said but did a lot of grinning to say, it was pretty amazing stuff he had.
    Ummm..what else? I can''t remember if it is the conspiracy stories or his stories that say they were never alone up there. Time and so many stories have blurred what he said to the many things we have all read. But I know he did say that at least several occasions they were most definitely not alone.

    The photos he was referring to that NASA released before realizing, I am assuming now years later as this was told to me in the really early days of the internet, I suspect he is talking about books. He did say (grinning profusely) something along the lines of, " You know that famous photo of Armstrong with??..or near the US flag..behind?? or beside him. (Sorry it was a long time ago and I don't want to embellish) anyway he said that is the photo your looking for. It is that photo, or a certain release of that photo that you can see things you shouldn't in the reflections of his visor. However I have looked many times and never seen anything out of the ordinary.
    He just grinned and said, you just have to know where to look for the original releases?? So anything more than that I am making up or guessing. But like I said, as we are almost predating the internet, I am assuming now he was referring to a book or books. Sorry that's all about the best I can do. it was a long time ago, and he said a little bit about a lot, not a lot about a little bit, if that makes sense.
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  15. CasualBystander

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    The S-IVB was cylindrical and since they had a hard time viewing it the object may have been relatively small.

    The spacecraft on the crater on the other hand is more difficult to explain. I assume the distance was about a mile.

    Watching the first landing seems to be more touristy than a serious attempt at contact.

    Fuel sloshing and other issues put the lander off course and they had shift their landing point to avoid a boulder field (could have been lethal). The descent stage which was supposed to have a 10% fuel margin (from my recollection) almost ran the tanks dry.

    They may have gotten closer to the aliens than they were supposed to.
     
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    Found more blue pixels/lights both in the sky and on objects.. These photos are from film scans,, so could be dust in the scanner or something..
     
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    upload_2017-11-1_9-3-56.png I got the impression that it is a photo of this nature he was referring to. Although in this one there is nothing odd in the reflection. He said there are others taken at the same time which has things we were not meant to see in the visor reflection. Obviously not in this image though,
     
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