Arguments Against ETH

[humanoidlord]

but still should we ignore the interdimensional theory yet?
it explains way better the higher strangeness encounters than the extraterrestrial theory does
for the time being im still sticking with the interdimensional theory
i remenber once hearing an encounter where a man said he entered an ufo, while his friend saw he enter an bus that misteriously dissapeared
we could claim this is just an "screen memory" but that is just an handwave, an way to we to ignore the unfortunate implications
and what do we make of the people that saw bigfoot exiting an ufo? similar species?! what do we make of mothman sightings that were proceded by ufo sightings? an coincidence?! what do we make of the skinwalker ranch? an hoax?! what do we make of the sightings of ufos making stuff that is just impossible? advanced tech?! what do we make of the joe simongton sighting were aliens litteraly cooked pancakes for him? an dumb hoax?!
and now for the smoking gun:
you can say whatever you want but: UFOS LOOK NOTHING LIKE REAL SPACESHIPS!dont believe me? well take a look at this amazingly well researched article:
Basic Design - Atomic Rockets
do ufos have heat radiators? no! do they have engines,hell even bizzare exotic ones like the orion drive? no! if we are to believe abductee and contactee reports they instead have an bizzare glowing thingy in the center of the ufo that somehow keeps it afloat! do they have an habitation module? no, the entire ufo is pressurized! do they have an airlock? no,they have an completely unprotected door to outside! do they have an spacesuit? well sometimes but that is mostly in older (50's to 70's) reports nowdays they like to walk stark naked just fine i could go on and on but my point has been made

 

[humanoidlord]

@Zeke

@nivek

@Castle-Yankee54

@August

@Gambeir

there got the players in the game

 

[Sheltie]

In most of the alleged abduction cases, the interdimensional theory seems more plausible. People usually describe being lifted out of their bedroom at night into a mysterious chamber. They're less likely to report seeing a craft or saucer.

 

[Area201]

I never said I was against your interdimenional theory.. it's just it only covers a slice or part of the phenomenon.

There are said to be multiuniverses varying from material to finer energies, to thought, and so on.. on any of these planes there could be beings, on various planets, some reach levels of interstellar travel, or going from one dimension to another.

Your theory is not wrong, just incomplete. It's not an either.. or answer.

 

[August]

Entities popping in and out of interdimensional portals can be a bit had to handle when your snoozing in your bedroom. Its best to listen for clicking noises just before they appear.

 

[nivek]

i have an entire essay in ats.com will repost it here

i am gonna post right now an thread that will prove you wrong

You know it is you who are saying I and others here wrong about UFOs, I have never said i didnt believe any interdimensional aliens visiting us, in fact I totally agree some aliens are probably from other dimensions and realms BUT not all and there are a host of aliens in our Galaxy that I believe have visited this world...That is the part you say we are all wrong about...

As Zeke said, the interdimensional theory is incomplete and partial, it just doesn't cover the whole issue with UFOs and visitations here on earth...

 

[humanoidlord]

I never said I was against your interdimenional theory.. it's just it only covers a slice or part of the phenomenon.

There are said to be multiuniverses varying from material to finer energies, to thought, and so on.. on any of these planes there could be beings, on various planets, some reach levels of interstellar travel, or going from one dimension to another.

Your theory is not wrong, just incomplete. It's not an either.. or answer.

all paranormal phenomena have the same basic caracteristics

 

[humanoidlord]

Entities popping in and out of interdimensional portals can be a bit had to handle when your snoozing in your bedroom. Its best to listen for clicking noises just before they appear.

those are hypnagonic hallucinations

 

[humanoidlord]

You know it is you who are saying I and others here wrong about UFOs, I have never said i didnt believe any interdimensional aliens visiting us, in fact I totally agree some aliens are probably from other dimensions and realms BUT not all and there are a host of aliens in our Galaxy that I believe have visited this world...That is the part you say we are all wrong about...

As Zeke said, the interdimensional theory is incomplete and partial, it just doesn't cover the whole issue with UFOs and visitations here on earth...

what case do you think has caracteristics of ET?

 

[Castle-Yankee54]

What do we make of the people that saw bigfoot exiting an ufo?

You can say whatever you want but: UFOS LOOK NOTHING LIKE REAL SPACESHIPS!dont believe me?

There was someone at AU that said they saw a bigfoot get off a bus and get into a barn that took off......I'd say I question their sanity.

As for how the UFOs look.....1) most don't look like "spaceships" likely because most are commercial aircraft, clouds, birds or balloons. 2) How would we know what vehicles that travel thru interstellar space look like.

 

[humanoidlord]

bigfoot get off a bus and get into a barn that took off

...... this is too stupid even for me

most don't look like "spaceships" likely because most are commercial aircraft, clouds, birds or balloons.

with some exceptions

How would we know what vehicles that travel thru interstellar space look like.

we made various studies about it

 

[Castle-Yankee54]

with some exceptions

we made various studies about it

I said most.....there are obviously other possibilities.

Yes they have done studies......but at best they are guesses.

 

[humanoidlord]

I said most.....there are obviously other possibilities.

Yes they have done studies......but at best they are guesses.

very close guesses

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

but still should we ignore the interdimensional theory yet?
it explains way better the higher strangeness encounters than the extraterrestrial theory does
for the time being im still sticking with the interdimensional theory
i remenber once hearing an encounter where a man said he entered an ufo, while his friend saw he enter an bus that misteriously dissapeared
we could claim this is just an "screen memory" but that is just an handwave, an way to we to ignore the unfortunate implications
and what do we make of the people that saw bigfoot exiting an ufo? similar species?! what do we make of mothman sightings that were proceded by ufo sightings? an coincidence?! what do we make of the skinwalker ranch? an hoax?! what do we make of the sightings of ufos making stuff that is just impossible? advanced tech?! what do we make of the joe simongton sighting were aliens litteraly cooked pancakes for him? an dumb hoax?!
and now for the smoking gun:
you can say whatever you want but: UFOS LOOK NOTHING LIKE REAL SPACESHIPS!dont believe me? well take a look at this amazingly well researched article:
Basic Design - Atomic Rockets
do ufos have heat radiators? no! do they have engines,hell even bizzare exotic ones like the orion drive? no! if we are to believe abductee and contactee reports they instead have an bizzare glowing thingy in the center of the ufo that somehow keeps it afloat! do they have an habitation module? no, the entire ufo is pressurized! do they have an airlock? no,they have an completely unprotected door to outside! do they have an spacesuit? well sometimes but that is mostly in older (50's to 70's) reports nowdays they like to walk stark naked just fine i could go on and on but my point has been made

We have little proof of other universe or ET's from this universe.
Based on the 20,000 plus humanoid reports I have read, I say their source is both and possibly something even stranger....

 

[humanoidlord]

We have little proof of other universe or ET's from this universe.
Based on the 20,000 plus humanoid reports I have read, I say their source is both and possibly something even stranger....

the similarity implies one source

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

the similarity implies one source

How so exactly?

 

[humanoidlord]

How so exactly?

similar caracteristics

 

[Castle-Yankee54]

very close guesses

That remains to be seen......no one has any idea what it might take to travel between universes.

 

[August]

those are hypnagonic hallucinations

Mine are not. They have been heard by others.

 

[humanoidlord]

That remains to be seen......no one has any idea what it might take to travel between universes.

indeed it does, but my intuition says they are close guesses
i find it very unlikely that FTL travel is possible