Arguments Against ETH

Discussion in 'Alien Hub' started by humanoidlord, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. Dejan Corovic

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    It is very easy to explain why UFOs don't create sonic boom, just by looking into existing data collected over the last 60 years.

    As discussed elsewhere, UFOs are proven to be surrounded by strong electric fields and plasma. Electric field is strong enough to ionize air and once the air is ionized air molecules get repelled away from UFO. UFOs are thus practically surrounded by near vacuum, even when they fly through atmospere. So, that vacuum bubble around an UFO is so large, maybe 20-30 times UFOs own diameter, that when UFO moves air goes around the bubble and there is no sharp point that is needed to start accumulation of shock waves.

    I've shown many times before a video where UFO flies through contrail and contrail melts away across whole of its diameter, while UFO is traversing it. And UFOs diameter was maybe 100 times smaller than diameter of a contrail.
     
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  2. nivek

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    I would be most interested in seeing that video, I have not seen that one, apologies if you posted it on this forum and I missed it, I try to read everything here but some days its hard lol...

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  3. Dejan Corovic

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    You are in luck. Videos like these get removed all the time. Here it is:



    As well, if you just search YT for 'ufo contrail' or 'ufo chemtrail' you'll get lot more similar vidieos showing UFOs playing with contrails.
     
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  4. nivek

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    I downloaded that video to my laptop, that's awesome, I'm going to do some searching tonight for more similar videos...

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  5. humanoidlord

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    that actually makes sense, when UFOs are in high speed mode they change from a solid atomic structure to pure plasma
     
  6. humanoidlord

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    don't wanna burst your bubble but WTFlow is in the ufological black list (THE UFO BLACK LIST) that means it is a hoax channel, also if you look at the disappearing contrail segments you will see that they flicker a bit...
     
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  7. Dejan Corovic

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    And than UFOs change back from plasma to solid? Can you pls expand on this?

    Video flickered, hmmm??? Than it must be that he's is reptilian mass murderer alien, not just an ordinary youtube hoaxer.

    I mean, your standard of proof is not very scientific. It seems that you throw harsh judgements completely based on personal likes and dislikes.
     
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  8. humanoidlord

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    atoms are made of energy, atoms make up matter, changing matter into pure energy (plasma) is easy
    i say what i think
     
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  9. Niku120

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    My guts agree, my mind doesn't!
     
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  10. Thomas R. Morrison

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    No: plasma is not "pure energy." Plasma is simply an ionized gas; the fourth state of matter. Electromagnetic energy is "pure energy," and the only known way to turn matter into electromagnetic radiation is to annihilate it with an equal quantity of antimatter. Doing so with just one gram of matter and one gram of antimatter would release the energy of a 43 kiloton bomb (disregarding neutrino production).

    You are correct, Sir.
     
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  11. Dejan Corovic

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    That is the best and the most honest way.

    But as well, do evolve when you come across new things. We all learn on our mistakes.
     
  12. humanoidlord

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    and what appears when strong eletromagnetic energy encounters air?
     
  13. Dejan Corovic

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    All that happens is that air heats up so much that air turns into plasma. But plasma is still a matter, a very similar to a really hot gas, but electrified. You still have ions and atomic nuclei swirling around in plasma, so plasma is a matter.

    Think Sun. Sun is a giant ball of plasma, that is matter. We receive heat from Sun and heat arrives as electromagnetic energy, or "pure energy". Contrary to that, Sun's plasma is just a matter and plasma's matter creates gravity that hold the Earth in its orbit. If plasma was 'pure energy' than Sun wouldn't have enough gravity to hold the Earth in the orbit.

    You have famous Einsten's equation E = m * c^2. In that equation, E is electromagnetic radiation (think photons), exactly what you are calling 'pure energy'. 'm' is mass.
     
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  14. humanoidlord

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    when strong EM radiation hits air it turns into plasma
     
  15. Dejan Corovic

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    That is not at contention here.

    You said that 'plasma is pure' energy, which is not. Plasma is still just a matter, albeit a very hot matter, mixed in with lots of EM energy. Again, think Sun, Sun is all plasma, but it is actually a material object, mixed in with EM energy (as you call it: "pure energy"), which Sun emits into outer space.

    As well, it's not true that air turns into plasma when hit by EM energy. Electric field is much stronger than magnetic, and 99% of energy that rips air molecules into plasma comes from electric field, and next to nothing comes from magnetic field.

    Only, in a very rare cases, in stars called magnetars, where a strength of magnetic field goes up into the billions of Teslas, some atomic and molecular breakups occur.
     
  16. Shadowprophet

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    I bought one of these lighters, Mostly because if it's some sort of gadget that you can charge via USB I've got one in a box somewhere.



    In the Video the man blows into the flame,

    The Flame is an electric arc shaped like an X They call it a plasma ARC, I don't know if it's real plasma, It would seem like if it was, It would melt the top of the lighter clean off, Anyway, For it to simply be electricity, It does have a neat reaction when you blow into it. So, Wind must change the properties of plasma in some way, I assume, it redistributes the heat very rapidly or something.
     
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  17. Dejan Corovic

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    Energy density in those lines of plasma is many times stronger than energy density of ordinary lighter's flame. As well, blowing from a human, as we all know, is very weak. We can barely estinquish birthday cake candle flames.
     
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  18. Shadowprophet

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    I stand by my original theory that a UFO doesn't create a sonic boom or wind resistance is because it's using time dilation, From inside the craft, it would seem like we are moving really slowly on the outside. We know for a fact that time dilation exists So in bitter honesty to not account for time dilation knowing how fast they move would be a folly.

    Time dilation - Wikipedia
     
  19. Dejan Corovic

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    Hmmm, what your theory prooves is that UFO's crew can not hear the sonic boom, becuse their time ticks faster. Not that Earthlings can't hear sonic boom??? Earthlings would still hear a big BOOOOM, because air ahead of the UFO is still being compressed.

    Earthlings and UFO crew have 2 different spacetimes. Sonic boom hapens in Eearthlings' spacetime, so it should be as audible as it always is. Sorry.

    For that matter, one doesn't need to go relativistic to escape hearing sonic boom, not even military pilots who break sound barrier can hear sonic booms, because booms stay behind their aeroplane forever.
     
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  20. Shadowprophet

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    I just have to point out the obvious here, If time itself is being manipulated then one wouldn't have to break the sound barrier to exceed the speed of sound, Because time is being exploited/ dilated, Therefor no sonic boom, If there is no sonic boom, you wouldn't hear one, There wouldn't be one. Because they never broke the speed of sound, It was all time dilation.

    Normally to achieve time dilation we need acceleration near to that of the speed of light. My assumption is, They use Gravity maybe even condensation to create density in mass, to alter the time dilation. Now I know you are Mr, No no no, But dude, You didn't even get that time dilation would let one violate the speed of sound, So, we aren't on the same page here.
     
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