Atacama 'Alien' Mummy DNA Results

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  1. Zeke

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    That's one thing online sometimes even the most obvious jokes/sarcasm gets overlooked/mistaken. I'm guilty. Happens all the time. No worries.
     
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  2. nivek

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    Inequality is a human concept, has nothing to do with nature...
     
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  3. Zeke

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    Are you familiar with or fan of Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by chance?

    Have not read, but sounds like according to him, everything is a man made concept. My sister loves this book, I tell her to read the Autobiography of a Yogi and in exchange I'll read this.
     
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    Americans, especially Bible belt conservative Republicans make a big fucking deal of birth control and stem cell research, if we had biological genetic experiments like this, they would not allow it. And who do you think maximizes the DoD budget? Whatever they are doing, you bet it's deep underground and unacknowledged. If this and the 64 reasons for secrecy aren't enough, let's add Nazis joining forces setting up these programs, ala experienced in final solution to the Jews and similar black operations.

    This guy full of crap, managed disclosure, or mixed bag?

     
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  5. humanoidlord

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    all interdimensional beings can leave traces, because they are physical and not physical at the same time
    its pretty hard to understand an phenomena that isnt supposed to make sense, ok?
     
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    According to all alleged insiders or whisteblowers it's taken very seriously, actually the most serious thing around. If any of this is real, ramifications are staggering for every day society. Not a prank.

    Maybe only in a deeper cosmological sense - yes you're right - according to "enlightened" people or those claiming to be, one eventually awakes to the "cosmic dream". That is our 3D world is an illusion that doesn't exist - a sort of matrix with a Grand Designer. By Design one must find a way to see past the matrix/satan/illusion - sure.

    I think this is not a practical frame of mind when dealing with UFOs because they are real - because we have to deal with the various relative dimensions we find ourselves in. Similar to how we need to pay our bills and so on. So for us who are not yet buddhas or not taken yet the red pill, it's all very real. When you are sleeping you think the dream is real. The acquisition and reverse engineering of UFOs has very serious consequences for society.

    I listed the 64 reasons for secrecy by Grant Cameron.

     
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  7. humanoidlord

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    i am gonna post right now an thread that will prove you wrong
     
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  8. Zeke

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    "DNA is going to be the same/similar throughout the universe.. we are no different than the ETs"

     
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    "Science." "Peer-reviewed scientific journals." Yeah OKAY. Dr. Greer's reply re the Atacama coverup.

    "Everyone should be concerned about the scientific and media coverup of the Atacama Skeleton research from Stanford please read the material we just posted on our website.

    Excerpts from Dr. Greer's letter to Stanford/ UCSF and Genome Research:

    Twelve scientists have looked into this paper and have concluded it is "junk science" at it's worst. Two have written comments after studying the data.
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    Specifically, the study had no controls, was not a reference-free DNA study, data was cherry picked and key data left out (e.g.: 360,000 triploid alleles ) and was done with antiquated technology and methodology. I have been assured that any competent peer-review process would have given the paper a 0 score and returned it.

    The assertion that the skeleton is a deformed fetus (allegedly female ) is unfounded by the data and the clinical medical findings (see Dr. Lachman's report, attached). That there were 7 de novo mutations resulting in the seen biological specimen is spurious and without scientific foundation. Others have concluded that had there been such widespread genetic damage that the embryo would never have been able to divide and develop further.

    Two PhD scientists with deep knowledge and expertise in DNA sequencing have assured me the study was faked from the very beginning and that the report could not have been properly peer-reviewed. Both have concluded that this is a case of massive academic corruption and fraud.

    Excerpts from Peer Review #1

    In one quick sentence, the authors need to provide some proof that the many novel mutations which say were responsible for “bone deformities” while the mummy was alive, did not in fact take place in the 100-500 years or so, since the mummy died? Since we see similar mutations in almost all samples of ancient DNA? ......... a little fetus could not develop to such a late, well-developed stage with 54 separate deleterious mutations in its developmental genes.
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    A non-expert might not have noticed it, but I am fairly sure that Nolan and colleagues planned a fake analysis right from the beginning. They included lots of random mutations in their sequences by intent, by omitting a standard treatment to remove them.

    Excerpts from Peer Review #2:

    His [Nolan's} first mistake was using a human reference genome as an assembly scaffold for the raw sequence reads. This needed to be done reference-free, de novo. Steve, use these words when you talk about this: “reference-free genome assembly”. This is a very challenging mathematical task and would require very special compute infrastructure to do.
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    I could go on forever. These guys failed as scientists and the academic community loves them for it. The whole point of the scientific method is to avoid bias and let objective reality show us the truth."
     
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  11. nivek

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    Here's a video on Greer with his alleged cover-up...

     
  12. The shadow

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    The mummy a hoax.. no surpise! Any one fooled by this mummy is a dummy!
     
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  13. Castle-Yankee54

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    It did look like a deformed fetus/stillborn human to me......and the one from Russia looked to be manufactured.
     
  14. humanoidlord

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    both are the same thing as far as i know, probally both are stillborn humans
     
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    Does not look like a deformed fetus or stillborn huma. A second one would be needed and examined to totally debunk the claims by Dr Nolan, appears only video footage so far available. I don't think the second one from Russia was ' manufactured'. I find this suspicion very weak explanation in that they would need to manufacture a similar/same looking being that was found in another part of the world not made public before. But given it was confiscated we can't conclude either way.

    More shady events around this discovery, besides the being being stolen. The lady who discovered the being died in a car accident trying to escape a hospital she was place into.

    "However Bendlin's clinical assistant, Lyubov Romanowa, who herself had seen many deformities in children stated that "they had never seen anything like this", and that she believed that it was "not of human origin." She said the differences were just too many, not least of which the amount of bones on the head that consisted of four in total that had sharp edges which were "completely different to a human being"[3]"

    Dr Greer still maintains a "mystery creature" status for this being atm and has detailed rebuttal to Nolan's claims.

    Grant Cameron argues alien dna could be the same or very similar to ours, and dna is similar throughout the universe, which we are made from the same building blocks.

    "Anomalies include: 9 ribs, large eyes, short legs, teeth, Tubes instead of bones in fingers, growth plates in the legs and the fontanelle closure was CLOSED"

    More accounts of the Atacama beings. According to this lady and her source, they suspect it's an extraterrestrial race that in the past crashed or got stuck on Earth and has been living in caves in the desert and/or close to nature in the jungle, nocturnal and non-threatening to humans.

     
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    It appears that most animals contain a kind total genetic library, or history which is locked in the genetics of that creature, encoded as it were, and which is reversible! It appears that this library can be opened, and that species can be re~formated back to a previous design out of their evolutionary tree, and so one has to ask whether or not it's possible to keep backwards engineering a species?
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    The question the linked article raises for me is if this is also true for humans, and if so could this be the result of experimentation from some lab? I only have a small amount of formal training in anthropology but anthropologically speaking, and as a general rule, there are almost no genetic skeletal variations in the skulls of humans when accounted for by races.

    So if this is a humanoid skeleton could it be one which is somehow the result of experimental work done at some cryto~corporate lab and possibly using recovered DNA from some lost race of midget humans?

    In other words, is this like Jurassic Park meets the Island of Dr. Moreau?

    Humans are quite unlike apes where a very wide range of genetic mutations in skeletal features can be found from parent to child in skull features alone, and so when you're looking at this as skeleton it is not a human skeleton, and to suggest that it could be one would require exceptional proofs. In other words, suppose it's proven human, so what does that actually prove, because you see there's extinct races of humans: We Know that already.
     
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  17. Niku120

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    Well said!
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    A experiment gone wrong?
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    Well first of all Welcome to the forum. The idea here Niku120 is something I'm trying to sell.

    To answer you directly: No, not gone wrong; just an escapee who didn't have any education, was starving and stumbled on to some trap which had food, and not having any idea of the danger ended up being killed in a rat trap. It's either that or else aliens have no sense and or experience with traps, because that skull should indicate a pretty intelligent creature.

    . See, I'm like a pusher selling ideas to corrupt the minds of population. Which incidentally is just telling you how the powers that be actually reason, which is pretty much demented, and so basically what I do is push ideas which are in truth the secret agendas concocted by idiots and fools whom are screwing around with nature, probably with your help by way of tax dollars for supposed research projects which are likely protected under some national security nonsense, and probably putting us and every other living creature at risk, but hey, I digress.~

    Now all around us for quite some time have been endless stories of supposed freak creatures showing up all over the planet. This should make you suspicious because historically I don't think there's ever been another time, certainly not in my life, where so many freak animals have been documented across the planet.

    Now, inside the US and likely other nations as well, there's a problem for some kinds of reverse genetic research, and that problem is the need for privacy and which then translates to available and desirable or needed land/resources. This means look to National Parks/Public Lands & ecosystems for excuses to cordon off the public from access. If you do this and keep a sharp eye out for the manifestation of freaks, then possibly you will begin to gather that the "enviromental warriors" are tools for a covert project to secret away from the people secret projects.

    Ah...here's what I'm talking about. Now look where this animal was found. Do some digging and ask yourself some deep questions like for example: If I was trying to reverse engineer a pehistoric sea creatures/dinosaur then I'd need a place huh? So now the idea here is to find out about the place this creature was found and read between the lines because the joint is basically off limits to the public even thought it's supposedly public land.
    Wolf Island National Wildlife Refuge - Wikipedia

    Video: Bizarre Creature Carcass Found on Beach in Georgia - Coast to Coast AM

    Strange Sea Creature Washes Ashore, Stumps Scientists
     
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    If it's possible to reverse the evolutionary process, as seems likely, and let's face it how much information surrounding that idea have you heard about? Well if that's possible, then looking at this tiny humanoid creature suggests to me that it might be a primitive form of human from some ancient epoch in human history. Maybe this comes out of some specific narrow band of humans.

    See here, the powers that be are just a bunch of freaks with way more money/power than any human should be allowed to have, and certainly they have no good sense, and so the idea here is that they have gone across the globe, like say to Africa for example, and where a certain tribe of famous humans are known to exist, and gathered some of the necessary genetic materials and have been working backwards ever since. That's one highly speculative possibility.

    However, what do we know right? Maybe there are monkeys or apes today which once had a tiny human like ancestor that died out, however, that would be most unlikely most unlikely and genetically doesn't make any kind of rational sense, so the only real explanation for the tiny humaniod is they are hacking the genetic codes to create a tiny human species for use. Mixing human genetics with a tiny monkey species would be my guess. Therefore it is not a surprise it may be bamboozling the so~called experts.

    Think how useful such an intelligent creature as a tiny human slave might be. Just think of the cost savings alone for space flights, no need to send captain fat ass in to space any longer, we can just use these guys instead. Alternatively, we need a crap pot full of money, how about we put these guys in a safety deposit box for the night? Think about it~
     
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