Bible Prophecies Explained at Last

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by john4564, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. The shadow

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    I don't need that to know he is a sham. but what is a Dictorobitary? you can respond here or in private
     
  2. August

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    Its a form of universal translator.
     
  3. The shadow

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    ahhh I am sorry I don't claim to talk to aliens like he does :)
     
  4. john4564

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    D-Day - 4!

    :Spaceship Alien
     
  5. Dundee

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    We should start a thread where we take bets on what poor old John's excuse will be when nothing happens. lol
     
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  6. Dundee

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    What, you have never had a conversation with a woman?
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    Kidding Kidding, please don't kill me girls :)
     
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  7. FFH

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    Let's not do that, this topic is already bringing toxicity to this forum and it's all my fault. This topic should be closed in order to save us more trouble...it's all up to @nivek though. But I can guarantee you that john4564 will not stop and will keep posting new dates and people will hate on him, that's exactly what this forum doesn't need. I just thought bringing him here would be a good idea in case he speaks truth.

    I think if these pointless fights in this topic continue, then this thread needs to be closed. Keep in mind that john4564 will not stand down and will create new accounts to post his stuff under a different name, under a different topic name, softly and sneakily, he'll keep pushing his new dates. If it all goes that way, he needs to be banned for good, regardless if his story is true or false. This is a forum where people come to have fun and talk, but john's presence brings the very opposite.
     
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  8. Dundee

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    Naa were all good mate, were all seasoned posters and old Jonno I am betting is used to opposition. Some of my best friends have been as mad as a snake. I am none to sane myself. Old Jonno is welcome here I reckon. adds a bit of spice :)
    Doesn't change the fact he has a big dose of humble pie coming in a couple of days though.
    My bet goes to a math error, and it wont be for some time yet.
     
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  9. Dundee

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    Mate, I reckon your a mad bastard, but your a good sport thats for sure :)
     
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  10. john4564

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    Job 20:14
    yet his food will turn sour in his stomach; it will become the venom of serpents within him.

    Revelation 10:9
    So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, “Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but ‘in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.’”

    Revelation 10:10
    I took the little scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour.

    Do people undertand what it means?
     
  11. Dundee

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    Mate, I reckon those passages are like statistics, you can make them mean whatever you want.
     
  12. john4564

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    Thanks Dundee. ;)

    I both know when I am (or could be) right and wrong. But being right or wrong is not the real problem. Being good or evil is! As you know it. :)

    Like for John in the Book of Revelation, what is honey in my mouth - God's words and prophecy - becomes sour in my stomach when it turns to be betrayals from those, first eager to know and understand, reading them. The tests from heaven must last enough for betrayals always take time to come. This has always been verified in my whole life.
     
  13. Dundee

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    Yeah, I never thought you were Evil, just wrong :)
    And... Like your namesake, I think you are a little confused ;)

    According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?

    • If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
    • Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14)
    Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
    • Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
    • No (Luke 9:9)
    Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
    • Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
    • No (John 1:32,33)
    Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
    • Yes (Matthew 14:5)
    • No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)
    Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
    • Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
    • No (John 1:19-21)
    Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
    • Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
    • No (John 1:32,33)
     
  14. john4564

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    The reason for which what is like honey in John's mouth turns sour on his stomach is due to the very purpose of the little open scroll. The latter is about:

    Rev 10:11 Then I was told, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings.”

    The goal of the little open scroll (= humans' outcomes) is to better define what the 7 seals (7 sealed scroll = God's decisions) are about in humans' terms, that is to say who will be what in the end times. And that is the core question of the various interpretations, all of them, EXCEPT ONE, disregarding all the details provided, and then BETRAYING this prophecy.

    So, what John is told, given and showed is sweet in his mouth for it comes from Christ himself, but turns sour in his stomach while foreseeing (what is made of this honey in his mouth) what the humans will make of it, against own Christ's words.

    This is the same with our cryptic ET intels. They are honey in our mouth, but they turn sour in our stomach when people make them a joke and beat those sharing them.
     
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    Hey, when this prediction fails, do you have any more you can post. It will be fun to try and debunk you. I confess I have not tuned in 100% to this thread and I am too lazy to go back over the 19paged.
    But I am up for round 2. No you will have a plan B I am sure. Guess I better go back and read.. :)
     
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    John 5:31-33 “If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true. There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is true. “You have sent to John and he has testified to the truth.

    John 8:14-18 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

    In the first case, it is about JOHN the Baptist, as a HUMAN, testifying about Jesus, under the human law, provided that John saw Jesus Christ in a vision before meeting him (see below) .

    In the second case, it is about GOD testifying about Christ, under the heaven's law, that is to say thanks to his miracles.

    Matthew 14:1-5 At that time Herod the tetrarch heard the reports about Jesus, and he said to his attendants, “This is John the Baptist; he has risen from the dead! That is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” Now Herod had arrested John and bound him and put him in prison because of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, for John had been saying to him: “It is not lawful for you to have her.” Herod wanted to kill John, but he was afraid of the people, because they considered John a prophet.

    Mark 6:14-17 King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known. Some were saying, “John the Baptist has been raised from the dead, and that is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” Others said, “He is Elijah.” And still others claimed, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of long ago.” But when Herod heard this, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has been raised from the dead!” For Herod himself had given orders to have John arrested, and he had him bound and put in prison. He did this because of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, whom he had married.

    Luke 9:7-9 Now Herod the tetrarch heard about all that was going on. And he was perplexed because some were saying that John had been raised from the dead, others that Elijah had appeared, and still others that one of the prophets of long ago had come back to life. But Herod said, “I beheaded John. Who, then, is this I hear such things about?” And he tried to see him.

    There is a big misunderstanding from those who state that Herod thought Jesus was John the Baptist. On the contrary, in all the three cases (Matthew, Mark and Luke) Herod perfectly heard about Jesus who raised John from the dead! 'HIM', in the 'miraculous powers are at work in him', is JESUS, not John!

    Matthew 3:13-15 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented.

    John 1:29-34 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.” Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.

    There is no contradiction. John the Baptist foresaw in a vision Jesus as God's Chosen One. He didn't know him personally before hand, but knew in advance how he will look like when he had to first meet him. In BOTH CASE, John recognized Jesus.

    Matthew 14:1-5 At that time Herod the tetrarch heard the reports about Jesus, and he said to his attendants, “This is John the Baptist; he has risen from the dead! That is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” Now Herod had arrested John and bound him and put him in prison because of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, for John had been saying to him: “It is not lawful for you to have her.” Herod wanted to kill John, but he was afraid of the people, because they considered John a prophet.

    Mark 6:14-20 King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known. Some were saying, “John the Baptist has been raised from the dead, and that is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” Others said, “He is Elijah.” And still others claimed, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of long ago.” But when Herod heard this, he said, “John, whom I beheaded, has been raised from the dead!” For Herod himself had given orders to have John arrested, and he had him bound and put in prison. He did this because of Herodias, his brother Philip’s wife, whom he had married. For John had been saying to Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife.” So Herodias nursed a grudge against John and wanted to kill him. But she was not able to, because Herod feared John and protected him, knowing him to be a righteous and holy man. When Herod heard John, he was greatly puzzled; yet he liked to listen to him.

    BOTH HEROD and HERODIAS wanted to kill John, but in BOTH CASES Herod feared to do so.

    Matthew 17:10-13 The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?” Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.

    John 1:19-21 Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders" in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.” They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.”

    BOTH CASES are logical regarding the law of reincarnation (actually taught by Jesus Christ in Hebrews 9). Jesus said that John WAS Elijah but the priests didn't recognize him since NOW reincarnated as John. John himself says that he IS NOT Elijah, but John the Baptist. The latter replies to a present tense (are you Elijah?), NOT a past tense (were you Elijah?).
    Already answered above.

    I never thought you thought I was Evil, but I show you you're just wrong :)

    I think you are a little confused ;)
     
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  17. john4564

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    I have an idea what could be the D-Day if I am wrong again for DEC 10th 2017. But I won't come to post it here.
     
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    Remember this from you?

    Don't need to thank me, I don't deserve it. I've made my mistakes and I'm gonna pay for every single one of them. But, I believe in second chances...

    You're right to believe in second chances, I replied to you. Not in third chances! :(
     
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  19. Dundee

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    Bahahahah I knew it. Already got an out planned.
    Join the club of those that came before you. lol
     
  20. August

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    I don't hate him for it I just find his ramblings to be a form of mental torture . Like if John were to write a letter to you it would be 50 pages long , that kinda thing. Similar also to a person who will not stop ringing you up on the phone . Is it part of sociopathic behaviour maybe ?
     

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