Bible Prophecies Explained at Last

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by john4564, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. Dundee

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    Well then I guess I am out in the cold. I have not one ounce of blind faith in my body.
    Show me something worthy and I am your man, till then.
    It is just smoke and mirrors.
     
  2. john4564

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    I am still firm about December 10th 2017 for too many intels point to that date (see above). There is still one weird intel that could be already fulfilled, depending on the way we interpret it: 'we will come to take you on December 31st'. Intel given to Eve with another one: 'in a handful of days'.

    This intel was given on April 21st 2012. Obviously, few days later (up to 7 max) couldn't be December 31st. But those few days could be years from 2012 to 2017 for their time scale is different from ours, like in the Bible with the Day of God being 1,000 years. So, it could be December 31st 2017.

    But, given the context of that sentence, it could have been last November 16th 2017 (7th anniversary of our arrival at Orleans / cathedral) when a sun-like UFO appeared in an Eve's vivid vision. This date is certainly the start of the 25 days countdown mentioned in the image above leading to Dec 10th 2017. So, they would have come on that date of Nov 16th 2017 (the message says: we will come...to take you few days later), being the last of our personal cycle at Orleans (the first full day at Orleans was therefore Nov 17th 2010).
     
  3. john4564

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    Yes, millions of people wish that same thing! Have you heard about the ET world referendum 'Do You Wish That We Show Up?' that we launched on September 11th 2003? Have you read what I very recently wrote about it?
     
  4. john4564

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    In the past years, we have done everything possible to help people have all the chances on their side. Blind faith is just the defintion of faith, except that you have far more tools to have an educated faith. I don't need you to be my man. I just need you to seriously study what we have done and written to help you.
     
  5. Dundee

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    OK, educate me.
    Here I stand now, uninformed, but a believer in Alien Life, but a non believer in a supreme being called GOD.
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    .Here is me now meeting ET.

    What do I need to do to bridge the gap.?
     
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  6. 3FEL9

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    Sorry for casting my 2 cents into this mess,, But Faith ¿¿
     
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  7. john4564

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    First of all, there is nothing but God in the universe, especially provided the perfection of His laws, should they be physical or spiritual. The human definition of God is the real problem. We see His creation, not Himself. Since we control a tiny part of it (since the industrial revolution), we forget the whole universe, to self-make us sovereigns of the universe (as if it depended on us). So, 'exit God' in the early 20th century.

    On another hand, the atheists have a problem with God being a figure. However, how is it a problem to imagine that God chose, at one (several) point(s) in time, to be embodied in a small and limited version of Himself, aka a man, a tiny part of Himself, to better communicate with His creatures to help them evolve towards Him?

    Who can do more, can also do less! God, able to create the universe, is also able to create a being speaking for Himself. Otherwise, how could He show us (and the evolved aliens before us) the way?

    The Bible is full (83 verses) of physical aliens, called 'angels' (I showed it). The Bible is full (74 verses) of ET spaceships, called 'clouds' (I showed it). So, it is not God vs Aliens, like many uneducated Christians would like us to believe (American fundamentalists often speak about 'demonic fallen angels' to name all the aliens), but ALIENS / ANGELS OF GOD! That is to say people who were like us, on the spiritual path, thousands or even millions years ago.

    But it is true that there also are malevolent aliens, called 'fallen angels'...that the Bible prophecies precisely talk about when saying them, in Revelation 12, to be hurled down to earth (Satan and his army of angels).

    Those believing in the Bible don't believe in aliens (except if they only are 'fallen angels'). Those believing in aliens don't believe in the Bible. As if, the anti-UFO /anti-Aliens propaganda, coming from Christian fundamentalists, was true, and conversely, as if the Bible was definetively debunked. Both are false.

    So, the maturity of the vast majority of people on earth is at an early stage. We just are teenagers, unable to make the two worldviews comptatible.

    These two worldviews make our destination, as a species, very different.

    For the atheists, able to admit the existence of alien life, our destination can only be material in space.

    For the faith believers, unable to admit the existence of alien life, our destination is the spiritual realm.

    But both groups DO NOT understand how aliens' science works. Christians don't know HOW they will be taken. Atheists don't know HOW to travel to stars, even few light years from here.

    Both of those groups are still unable to imagine that the ETs control the time flow from which will depend the state of the phenomena, from material to immaterial. Those visiting us are able to materialize (physical world) and dematerialize (spiritual realm), and make huge distances tiny. That's why I wrote The Science of Extraterrestrials.

    Now, if you want to meet ET, after the proposition made in 2003 for 10 years to humanity through the ET world message 'Do You Wish That We Show Up?', now no more valid since 2013 due to a lack of serious interest in this message by humanity, it remains the end times schedule...which started with the birth of Prince George in July 2013 when this ET offer expired.

    Now, one cannot meet ET on personal demand, but in a selection process.

    This selection will depend on your faith to Christ, NOT THE WAY THE CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS SUGGEST THROUGH THEIR CHURCH (for there is NO Christ's church on earth until the coming of the New Jerusalem in 2075), but the way the Bible prophecies suggest to embrace.

    The faith comes through proved fulfilled prophecies in the past (and those coming in the impending future) as indicated by the future Two Witnesses prophesying for 1,260 days. The problem is therefore: WHO ARE THOSE TWO WITNESSES?

    The same way Christ proved his own witness to be his Father through his miracles, the same way the Two Witnesses will prove their link with Christ through fulfilled prophecies. But to know where, when and who to look at, one must be aware of the answers. Hence my work until now.

    At last, if you want to PEACEFULLY meet ET, you must know WHY you want this. Depending on your answer to yourself and Christ, through your behavior and thoughts, it will be peaceful or not.

    If you're a good guy, helping others, aka following Christ's precepts (this is following Christ in spirit), you then get the garantee that it will be peacefully, and that you will even get more, i.e. salvation. THAT IS THE FAITH IN CHRIST! Nothing more, but nothing less.

    If you have doubts about what you did before (wrongdoings), you'd better repent to Him (not to humans). That's how you show your regrets and your will to be in His light.
     
  8. john4564

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    Excellent question / answer. :Thumbsup:
     
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  9. The shadow

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    OHHHH LOOOK AT YOUR CHART! you forgot to edit some thing! something damning John4564 the false prophet.

    here let me point it out to you John4564 the false prophet.
    ARRIVAL AT ORLEANS ON...
    NOV 16th 2010!!! seven years ago!
    care to explain that away John5464 the false Prophet?
     
  10. August

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    Do you spruik this in real life , like in the real world or only on here on the internet ? How do people react to you ? What do they say about the constant religio babble.
     
  11. The shadow

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    did John4564 the false Prophet use his umm device and talk to you?
     
  12. August

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    No , nothing . Just static . He is a total shonk. I was going to suggest he try his Interocitor but I know he hasn't got one of them neither.
     
  13. The shadow

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    I will translate better
    John4564 the false Prophet thinks aliens talk to him Because HE is better then you HE is the chosen one. they wont talk to YOU because you don't understand. you are INFERIOR you Just don't get it. so they ignore you.
    or.... THEY DO NOT EXIST.
     
  14. The shadow

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    I agree with you the guy is 100% nuts. I mean.. I cant make heads or tails out of his chart....
    I am thinking of bowing out after his dec 10th fail of asking Admin to lock this topic. the man is driving this poor guy to drink.
     
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  15. Dundee

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    I must confess the response from John was pretty hard to follow. I wasn't expecting the sermon on the mount.
    But I can see what you mean about the superiority thing. If that is what its going to take for ET to visit me I think I am in trouble. Makes me wonder if folks like that are Trolling for a reaction, enjoying the make believe they know deep down is crap, or truly believe. In a funny sort of way I can understand the first two options. But the though that he could be fair dink-um with his beliefs is frightening. I mean each to there own but hell, makes you wonder what is truly in the minds of some of the people walking our streets.
     
  16. john4564

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    If you care to read what I wrote, in page 15, from post #282 to #291, after which you asked 'if ET's talk to you then...why wont they talk to me?' in post #294, I explained the series of lines of the chart.

    In one of the visions I had, there was a cathedral in which we came in, and where I was given a piece of paper where it was mentioned: 'you will live the test of fire the 25th day'.

    The city of Orleans, where we arrived on November 16th 2010, has a cathedral, the interior of which resembles those of the vision. We visited the cathedral the very first day.

    So, logically speaking, the 25 days of the message should start from that date of November 16th, but 7 years later for the 7 characters present in this cathedral (four Tall Blonds, a woman, Eve and myself), and because other ET intels point to those 7 years.

    The 25th day, from Nov 16th, is December 10th 2017, my 56th birthday (8 'sevens'). We assume, given the other intels' content (also explained in the series of posts mentioned above), that our departure with our ET friends is that 'test of fire', provided that on Nov 16th 2017, Eve saw in a vivid vision a SUN-like ship very close to our building (sun = fire).

    In addition, the ETs talk to many, many people. They could even have talked to you years ago. But you probably thought it was just a dream, like millions of people. That is where there is a difference. We took into account those first dreams and take them seriously. And askd for more. That's how it began. Then we committed ourselves to that pursue of the truth and full implication in their Plan. The difference between us only comes from the LEVEL OF COMMITTMENT!
     
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    Like the proverb says: words fly away, writings remain.

    So, we don't speak around us about all of that. We already tried but people don't believe anything until rocks hit their heads. But at that time, it will be too late. Besides, what I have to say needs explanations and pictures to better comprehend what all is about. The best way remains the writings.

    At last, I used to talk science ONLY (The Science of Extraterrestrials). No religious things (for I wasn't in that field yet). But people still gave up fast for it was too complicated for them. So, it's not a problem of what the truth is, just what people are able to digest according to their level of intelligence and education.

    People just want good stories to chat about them. Understanding? They don't care. :Alien:

    They even prefer to say that no one understands to better justify their lack of understanding, or desire to understand. :dry8:
     
  18. August

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    " People just want good stories to chat about them. Understanding? They don't care."

    I don't either .
     
  19. john4564

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    Love, compassion, faith and open mind are the keys to communicate with them. EVERYONE having those keys are invited to listen and talk. It's not a matter of inferior / superior, but about the necessary COMMITMENT to get what you want...to work for OTHERS!

    The rest is just babbling and justifications of those who fail to be in touch with them.

    In our society of fast communication, where it suffices to pay a fee to browse on Internet and get phone calls from everywhere, and from anyone, people have forgotten the basics of spirituality where all is long and free...at the condition to pay the real price of love, compassion, faith and open mind. The learning curve to practice spiritual communications is long because it is about an eternal life to come, unlike the quick means of today's ephemeral world.

    Anyone committed enough can do and live what we did and lived.
     
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    If you want a beautiful car, or anything you cherish, but very difficult to obtain, what amount of efforts will you make to get it? When you get it, will you feel superior regarding those who jealous you seeing you with it?

    The thing here is that ET communications don't seem to have any price. But we did pay the price! And that is difficult to understand. So be it. Let's come the good stories and let's people believe it's easy, without any sacrifice.

    Only few people will understand how narrow is the gate. Those understanding this will do every effort to come in too. One day, I said to ufologists who were so eager to have THE definitive proof of the existence of the aliens:

    'when you will have this proof, you will regret to have it for you don't know yet what it will mean'.
     
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