Bright Insight - JFK Assassination

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by Zeke, May 9, 2018.

  1. Zeke

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    Well you said ..

    Ah.. okay.. so you meant the evidence you found and observed - not the Warren Commission's evidence.. I'm saying they cherry picked (need to show what exactly), and if you based it then on their evidence, you would have based it on the same sham investigation. But, if you did your own research and observation, then that's different. Though you still came up with the same conclusion as them, interestingly.
     
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  2. Castle-Yankee54

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    Some of the evidence is based on the warren commission investigations, some is based on later investigations and some is based on my own observations and research.

    Like I've also said a number of times I used to think it was a conspiracy until I found out there was no magic in the bullet and I changed my conclusion to no conspiracy at that point..
     
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  3. Zeke

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    Right now I'm following. I'm coming from the opposite end.. I used to think it was cut and dry Oswald fired shots from the Depository. Then (History Channel's British Version) "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" forced me to reassess that conclusion..
     
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  4. nivek

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    My take on this is the government is hiding a lot of information, knowledge, and evidence...For me it's not about a bullet or who pulled the trigger by why and who planned it..The 'accepted' conclusions given to the public are unacceptable to me...Until the government legitimately releases all it has presently classified on this case we are seeing an incomplete picture...
     
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  5. Castle-Yankee54

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    Actually a vast majority was released in the 1990s......there isn't much left. Obviously they didn't find any smoking guns at that time otherwise all the CTs would have ben screaming......."we were right".

    Oswalds profile answers much of the why he did it and his frame of mind......it goes along with the murder of Tippett and the attempted murder of General Walker. He stalked walker......but JFK was a spur of the moment as he only found out about the motorcade route 3 days before it happened. That's why he only had 4 bullets.
     
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    Each one is two parts......and coupling this with the straight line thru JFK and Connelly explains who and where the shooter was located. It is also obvious that if there had been a shooter he would have missed and would not have been a trained sniper.
     
  7. humanoidlord

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    he has a bunch of very interesting theories
    i have a suspicion bush did indeed play a role in the assasination, too much strange coincidences
     
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  8. Castle-Yankee54

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    That could have been what changed my mind......its been clear to me there was no magic in the bullet for at least 10 or 15 years. Then like I said the recreation videos explained it completely....and a psychological profiling project explained why Oswald did it most likely by himself.
     
  9. nivek

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    But there is still some classified, no matter if it's 10 percent of the total data or 2 percent, some information and possible evidence is still locked away, until then the picture is incomplete to me...
     
  10. Castle-Yankee54

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    The same thing will likely happen when the rest is released as when the majority was released.

    Right now all it would really change would be motive......but only time will tell. Who did and from where is pretty clear.

    You'll never have all the data......but then you never do find all the data so you reach a conclusion and then update it when new evidence is found. That's why research is an ever evolving event.

    I guess the big question is will you know when you have all the data?
     
  11. Castle-Yankee54

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    I'm also wondering if you'd believe the government when they said they'd released all the data?
     
  12. nivek

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    Possibly, why do you wonder that?...
     
  13. Castle-Yankee54

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    It was just a question......but then you'd never be able to come to a conclusion.

    I guess I was curious as to how deep your belief of a cover-up went.
     
  14. nivek

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    All they have to do is release the data, simple...I'll draw my own conclusions from there...
     
  15. Castle-Yankee54

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    If I live to see it I'll update my conclusion if needed.
     
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  16. nivek

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    Yeah that's the key words, if I live long enough...lol
     
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  17. Zeke

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    Some viewer criticisms:

    "What BS !!...Saying they proved there was no shooter from the "grassy knoll"....they were "Estimating" the angle of the shot. That head shot WAS from Kennedy's front-right. I've been a deer hunter for over 30 years...I've killed dozens of deer and been involved in even more hunts that deer were shot. (tracking and recovery) Ever since the first time I saw the film of Kennedy getting shot, I knew where the shot came from. If you've had the experience of watching or seeing the "scene" of a deer kill, you'd know by the direction of anything blown out, would be the same as the bullet's path.....AND the direction a human head would be thrown, "Back and to the Left" !"

    "they openly acknowledge the carcano rifle was not accurate so they used a different rifle? Lol. First flaw there."

    "Shoot a moving target shoot a moving target for goodness sake !!! Why keep showing this still target bullshit and so-called rewriting history to prove lee or single assassin did this. Its just sooo dishonest."

    "I'm telling you James files did it" (full detailed confession)

    "James Files, used a Remington XP 100 Fireball, from the grassy knoll."

    "The problem with how the grassy knoll shot was conducted is that James Files (the man who claimed that he took the shot there) used a type of revolver. Obviously a rifle is going to blow someone's brains out because rifles are more powerful than revolvers. Also, the narrator of this video commits a slippery slope fallacy by saying that if there was a shooter at the grassy knoll, the head would have been completely obliterated. Actually, the only conclusion that we can make is through what is given - using a RIFLE in that spot would have obliterated his head, because they just demonstrated it. Also, I don't even care if Oswald took the first shot. I care about the direction of the blood spatter and the direction Kennedy's head went in regard to the shot that blew his brains out. Anyone who studies forensics should know a fundamental rule about blood spatter - if blood goes in a general direction, that means the force that caused it to move in that direction came from the opposite direction (there is another rule that says if blood is on a surface and the force goes into the wall, the blood will bounce off in the same general direction because it has nowhere else to go; that doesn't apply in Kennedy's situation). This is reaffirmed by the laws of physics - if I smack the right side of my head with my right hand, my head is going to move left. From that same logic, I can conclude that if I shoot someone on the right side of their head, their head will move left. This is consistent with JFK's actual head movement when his brains blew off - his head CLEARLY moves left. Not only that, but the blood spatter goes in the same direction as well. Not only does this reaffirm James Files' description of what happened when he shot Kennedy, but also he said he was aiming for Kennedy's right eye and he missed and hit his temple! No shit the brains are going to blow up, he got shot in the temple. As far as I'm concerned, all the evidence (the rule of forensics which is supported by the laws of physics) points to the grassy knoll shot. If anyone wants to listen to James Files' testimony of how he killed JFK, there's a great hour and fifty minute video of it right here on YouTube. It blew my mind; I mean really - you just can't make that stuff up."

    "Nothing is really proved without considering other weapons and calibers from the grassy knoll location. If a grassy knoll sniper existed, he (or even she) almost certainly wasn't using a traditional rifle. That sniper would almost certainly be firing something with a shorter barrel, and a shorter barrel would mean a slower bullet. The jacketed soft point would completely eliminate the head if fired from a higher-power rifle, but that's a huge assumption. At the very least, the producers of this video should tell what caliber they used so that we know what assumption they make. If a grassy knoll sniper existed and was shooting a .22 long rifle caliber with a lead hollowpoint bullet, the round would not destroy the head completely. I doubt that a .223 Remington hollowpoint would destroy the head completely. Some people have speculated that the round from the grassy knoll could have come from that short-barreled XP gun firing a .222 Remington round. I don't remember the numbers on that round, but I think that they are a bit less than the power of a .223 Remington. I'm very skeptical of the idea of a grassy knoll assassin, but this test is badly flawed. Another flaw in this test is that the skull that they create has no holes at all. In real life, a skull does have some openings that would dissipate at least some of the hydrostatic force."

    "I know what weapon was used on the grassy knoll location...scientists found a bullet she’ll by the fence...a .22 bullet casing...one man could have used this type of bullet...Sirhan. The gun that was used was a .22 Long Rifle... Also...the bullets that Lee Harvey Oswald used was a 6.5 caliber....looks like they might have to do this again..haha"

    "Brought to you by the CIA."

    This goes on and on.. just one of the videos first part. These are so many solid criticisms, yet these flawed re-enactments you use to (largely/partly) base your conclusion on. :huh8:
     
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  18. Zeke

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    Any one of these facts make me come to one conclusion - 2nd shooter or multiple as part of CIA hit operation.
    1. The fact that oldman Bush doesn't know where he was/won't talk/CIA hired someone named "George Bush" who did nothing, as an alibi (see video below)
    2. James Files confession using a gun that would not make head explode like in re-enactment
    3. The cleanup of the limo (would conclusively show what direction bullets fired).
    4. Accounts from doctors who changed their minds on what happened after agreeing to one thing, to conform to the magic bullet theory.
    5. Murder of people who were to testify before the trial.
    6. Deathbed confessions, agent Hunt, and his role in the operation.
    7. 60 years after the event, CIA won't release all the files. Operative Bush still alive.
    Pick any one. 100% CIA hit, 2nd shooter, Oswald setup to appear to be the killer - his profile should match for it, no surprise. He wasn't picked out of a hat.

    I have more confidence in this then the UFO file and ETs.

    Check out 13min:20seconds in. Even insult to injury, laughs at it. Bush rewarded with Presidency and lifelong protection. I suspect also someone planted the "magic bullet" in the stretcher falling out too, but that I can only guess one of the agents, maybe Bush, we don't know who.

     
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  19. Castle-Yankee54

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    They were estimating based on the alleged location of the "badgeman" from mary ann moormans photo.
     
  20. Zeke

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    I suggest anyone researching, to watch this. It's not a flawed re-enactment, took me by surprise the scope of the operation. Saw this @Castle-Yankee54 ?

    It's long and not evidence per say, and I'm not including it on my list of "Pick any one" above. Just an alternative narrative. They do cover a lot of the autopsy coverup part (#4 on my list) - and why they got sued not to air on TV again (a brother mentioned by witness who's really not important anyway to the account nor would they targeting him).

     
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