Chemtrail: Conspiracy theory or truth?

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  1. humanoidlord

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    funny that no one has seen on of these modified planes landing, hmm?
     
  2. Castle-Yankee54

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    Or flying for that matter.
     
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  3. Gambeir

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    2 Hours, one hour presentation followed by one hour of questions.
    The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth; so help me God.
    Watch if you dare.

    Under An Ionized Sky

     
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  4. Gambeir

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    Highlights of the video Under an Ionized Sky I've found so far.

    31:16 Ethyl Bromide is sprayed by Obama drones to colorize the sky blue.
    32:50 US Military has made JP8 Fuel (ordinary jet plane fuel) a classified military secret.
    44:00 Ship Exhaust plumes are being used to add to the commercial jet chemtrails
    45:00 US Patent to make Chemtrails Invisible https://thechemtraildiary.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/1/7/23175228/us20100043443.pdf
    48:00 Military Bionerve operations and transhumanism
    51:00 Military complicity in the global warming hoax: Willfully heating the atmosphere.
    52:00 Military has hidden their criminal participation in this crime behind national security
    53:00 How to make an Earthquake using a subwoofer to produce ELF waves.
    56:00 Fracking, Chemtrails, ELF Waves, and Scalar Potentials for remote destruction.
     
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  5. August

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    Wow this is enough to make anyone Paranoid.
     
  6. Caeldeth

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    JP8 fuel is not a military secret. Not sure what you are on about there. The patent is also to reduce CONTRAIL condensation. Has nothing to do with chemtrails if you were to read the patent. The rest is garbage with no truth to it whatsoever.
     
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  7. Gambeir

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    Caeldeth, it's common to patent things under another pretext. The whole point of any patent is to protect an idea, it doesn't matter whether or not the patent is about chemtrails or about contrails, it's the technology and it's use that count. If the same technology is needed to be used in another completely unrelated process, say for example in spray deposition of substrates, then the patent is still valid and the user will have pay a royalty for using the technology.

    Obviously the Patent Office isn't going to approve a patent for reducing the appearance of chemtrails now are they? Would that be logical? Hmm....

    Would it be logical that people bitched about contrails turning the sky milky white such that prior to 1996 when chemical trails were begun that there are also patents for eliminating or reducing them? No, there are none so what's that tell us?


    JP-8 Fuel

    I have attached a two files on JP*8 fuel.
    JP_8 does have a military security classification assignment. Whether or not it's all that significant I cannot say.

    JP-8 Fuel * Out Take Comments from Steel Soldiers.
    JP-8 Fuel

    The difference is in flash points and freezing points. They use JP5 on Aircraft Carriers. JP 6 was used for the XB-70 and JP 7 was used for the SR-71. JPTS is used for the U-2. JP1 was Pure Kerosene and was some of the first jet fuel. JP4 was a 50-50 mix of Kerosene and Gasoline and was phased out for JP8. JP8 is the most common and is used by the USAF. Then there is FT blended fuel. It is a synthetic fuel blended with JP8. This is to help cut imported fuel.

    If you are doing a mil-spec test for a government contract, the government has a list of approved suppliers and should be able to make it possible for you to buy some for acceptance testing purposes. JP-8 is not a commercial fuel available at the airport. It's very thin and is the fuel used by the USAF.

    JP-8 is highly refined kerosene, with three types of additives - antifreeze, corrosion inhibitor, and biocide. It does not jell or get crystals down to -47 degrees C, algae supposedly won't grow in it and the corrosion inhibitors helps to break gunk from the surfaces it contacts. The difference between it and Jet-A is in the strength and composition of those three additives. If burning it in a deuce, add some oil or Opti-Lube to increase lubricity.

    In tests I worked on, the gov. provided the oils and fuels.
    However not knowing what you are doing, that's another thing.
    Good luck with your project.


    JP-8
    Source: Global Security
    https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/engines-fuel.htm

    A Department of Defense (DoD) Directive Number 4140.43 dated 5 December 1975 stated that all new turbine powered air vehicles should be designed to operate on middle distillate turbine fuel, JP-8, as well as JP-5 and JP-4. JP-8 has since been identified as the Single Fuel for the Battlefield. Shipboard based air vehicles continue to require JP-5 fuel because of safety considerations in storing and handling fuel aboard ships. These fuels can be routinely encountered in world wide deployment and should be considered in the design of the air vehicle systems. All other fuels should be designated alternate, restricted or emergency fuels.

    JP-8 is a 100% kerosene blend and is an acceptable substitute/alternate for diesel fuel. JP-8 is interchanged within NATO under NATO Code Number F-34. In terms of refining crude oil, jet fuel 8 is a middle distillates. The middle distillates include kerosene, aviation fuels, diesel fuels, and fuel oil #1 and 2. These fuels contain paraffins (alkenes), cycloparaffins (cycloalkanes), aromatics, and olefins from approximately C9 to C20. Aromatic compounds of concern included alkylbenzenes, toluene, naphthalenes, and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). Compositions range from avgas and JP-4, which are similar to gasoline, to Jet A and JP-8, which are kerosene-based fuels [661]. Kerosene normally has a boiling range well above the boiling-point of benzene; accordingly, the benzene content of the kerosene fraction (and therefore jet fuel 8) is usually below 0.02%. However, since wide-cut jet fuels (such as jet fuel 4) are made by blending with gasoline, they may contain more benzene (normally < 0.5%).

    The JP-8 +100 fuel thermal stability additive for JP-8 was developed by the Air Force Research Lab (AFRL/PRSP) to increase the thermal stability of jet fuel by 100?F and increase the fuel's heat sink capacity by 50%. The +100 additive is a fuel injector cleaner additive package consisting of detergent, dispersant, metal deactivators and antioxidant. The additive was developed to facilitate fielding of future advanced fighter air vehicles requiring enhanced thermal margins for fuel. During field evaluation of the additive in F-16 air vehicles, benefits of reduced engine coking were reported. The Air Force has been evaluating the benefits of this additive in fighter and trainer air vehicles. However, the additive disarms the current generation of filter coalescer elements making them ineffective for removing water, and dirt.

    The Air Force developed an implementation method to inject the +100 additive downstream after the fuel has been filtered through current filters, for application on truck refueled air vehicles. A new generation of filter coalescer element is required to remove dirt and water from fuel with +100 additive so that fuel can be dispensed in a hydrant system. The Navy has expressed concerns on unique problem with filters for their ships and requires that a drop-in filter and coalescer element be developed before they use the +100 additive. The Army has voiced similar concerns on the additive implementation prior to filter development.

    The three services are currently working on a new generation filter coalescer development. Initial prototypes have been tested, but would require significant modification to be used in existing Air Force, Army and Navy filter coalescer vessels.

    During the B-2 development phase, the primary fuel for the air vehicle was changed from JP-4 to JP-8. This was desired due to the requirement to refuel the air vehicle within a hangar and due to limited air flow for ventilating air vehicle compartments adjacent to the fuel tanks. The low volatility of JP-8 greatly reduced the probability of a fuel explosion. JP-4 was re-designated as an emergency fuel. With the routine exposure to JP-4 removed, other fuel subsystem changes could be made. The fuel tank pressurization system, which was mandatory for the fuel subsystem for hot JP-4, was deleted providing a reduction in system complexity and air vehicle weight along with an improvement in system maintainability. Also, fuel tank lightning protection was reduced due to the reduction in risk of fuel tank explosion.
     

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  8. Castle-Yankee54

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    So since 2009 my sky hasn't really been blue when the sky is clear?......:Whistle:.

    So where does she have her laboratory analytical reports to confirm her claims. I might have to see if her book is in the local library.......perhaps it makes more sense.
     
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  9. Caeldeth

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    Before 2009 the sky was green. Don't you remember?
     
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  10. humanoidlord

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    :dry8:q41
     
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  11. Gambeir

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    I don't know you guys, I try to validate some of this stuff for my own self, like looking up the patent. I wanted to see it for myself so I froze the Video and copied the patent numbers down. It took a little looking but I eventually found it. That's the same patent shown in the video.

    I don't know about other yet. I've done some looking but I'm not a chemical engineer.
     
  12. Gambeir

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    Well he's infamous for authorizing drones over america.
     
  13. humanoidlord

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    and?
    most countries allow them these days
     
  14. Castle-Yankee54

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    I don't see drones myself.......I see commercial aircraft as I'm on a main air corridor. The sky is still blue in the northeastern US.......and was still the blue I remembered in the Pacific Northwest that I remember as a kid.
     
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  15. Castle-Yankee54

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    What do you think our white house paranoiac is doing then?......Obama didn't appear to be one.
     
  16. Gambeir

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    The American People do not measure the policies of their own government by those of other nations.
    The fact that other nations freely engage in Owellian plots is no measure of ethic's.

    Obama will forever be linked to drones. All you have to do is a simple search.
    Just punch in, Obama authorizes drones, and see what you get.

    OK, it's not trolling when it's a historical fact.
     
  17. humanoidlord

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    your country used war as a industry, its no better than any other country
    stop this patriotism, there are no good countries, just cleaner looking prisons
     
  18. Castle-Yankee54

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    I was already familiar with the types of jet fuel used over the years.

    The contrail reduction patent makes sense since there is concern over long duration contrails affecting light received in certain areas like Alaska and the over the pole route.
     
  19. Gambeir

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    Ha ha..yes you're right humanoidlord but the difference is that what's obvious to you isn't to the American People. It's only when the truth came through the internet to some Americans that they began to realize what you've said might be the truth?

    See, previously the complete domination of all information enabled mass brainwashing just like Nazi German or Soviet Russia, and so the people thought they were doing this for patriotic reasons. We are bringing you savages democracy right?

    Laughing...yea right. Where's my blow you ass up drone now?
    Anyways not sure drones are connected unless it's to the spraying of this other thing to make the sky look blue.
    That makes sense because there's almost always this single plane flying high over the Air Traffic here locally.
     
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  20. humanoidlord

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    every country uses nazi brainwashing these days, biggest offenders are USA and russia
    at least north korea, venezuela and others keep it to themselves, the two above dont
     

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