Chemtrail: Conspiracy theory or truth?

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by August, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. August

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    No not that the last bit about pre dating jets .
     
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  2. Castle-Yankee54

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    contrails can be caused by prop aircraft too.
     
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  3. August

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    Didn't know that. Thanks.
     
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  4. Dundee

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    I am sorry but the whole notion of chem trails as described is ridiculous. Lets look at the facts. Contrails are a known, explainable, easily understood fact. Do you think for one minute if any government or alien entity wanted to disperse any chemicals to the population it would do it at 10,000 feet in broad daylight?
    NO, they would do it at 100,000 feet at 4:00am.
    It really bugs me the chem-trail conspiracy nuts that choose to ignore science and common sense.
     
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  5. zork

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    They would be trying to have the same affect as fluoride in the water supply, trying to dumb people down ever so slightly, makes the masses easier to control and makes people ask less questions. I don't think the chemicals actually work as they're intended right now, it could also be just testing to see what certain chemicals do to the masses.
     
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  6. Dundee

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    It makes no sense at all. Our governments can put probes on other planets, men on the moon, but they cant disperse a chemical without being caught? They are just not that dumb. If our governments wanted to effect us with chemicals they would use the water supply, the food chain, any number of methods. Not visible chem trails??
     
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  7. zork

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    You have a point, however why wouldn't they use chem trails? The average person would think nothing of it if they saw streaks of white in the sky, let alone think it was the government dropping chemicals on people.
     
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  8. Dundee

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    I am not necessarily saying they would not disperse chemicals from a plane, I am saying that if they did, they would not do it at 1:00 in the afternoon on a sunny day for all to see. They would do it at night and in a way we would not see. So given that we know what con-trails are, what the conspiracy nuts call chem-trails, are con-trails.
     
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  9. zork

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    If the large majority of the population would not even ask questions about the streaks in the sky, it wouldn't matter what time they dispersed the trails, it would just fuel the people that actually notice these things and ask questions, who to many people perceived as nuts or conspiracy theorists, thus seen as a joke and people then carry on with their lives, not even giving it a thought.
     
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  10. Dundee

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    So what then is the motivation to do it publicly?
    Imagine your in control of the hypothetical chem-trail program.
    You have the air-force jets at your disposal, you have to dump chemicals on the population.
    You have a choice.
    1. 25,000 feet on a sunny Wednesday afternoon for all to see.
    2. 100,000 feet at 4:00 am when no one will ever know.
    What is your motivation to pick option 1. ?
    Why is that the better choice for you?
     
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  11. Castle-Yankee54

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    What makes me laugh is the people that think they are affected by a contrail they see at 30,000 feet above them.
     
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  12. Castle-Yankee54

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    Ever since I first saw pictures of contrails when I was about 13 I didn't worry about them.

    I agree that they would do it more covertly.....but then I'm not surprised so many believe in them now.

    What I'd still like to see is evidence that the chemtrail "people" claim is happening.......its like the fluoride water paranoiacs they just expect you to believe whatever they say without any evidence or science.
     
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  13. Caeldeth

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    There is no truth to chemtrails whatsoever. The people that believe in chemtrails are the same people who believe HAARP can control the weather. Some people have no understanding of the incredble power you would need to manipulate weather patterns. You would pretty literally need a weapon that equals the power of the sun.
     
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  14. Castle-Yankee54

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    I've learned a lot from over 30 years of working outside.....but the most important one is the Mother Nature is still very much in charge.
     
  15. Caeldeth

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    You are absoloutly right. I find it laughable when people say the US creates hurricanes. Allow me to put this into perspective for people who think this is possible.

    Just through cloud and rainfall formation from a catagory one hurricane produces 1.5 cm/day (0.6 inches/day) of rain inside a circle of radius 665 km (360 n.mi). Converting this to a volume of rain gives 2.1 x 1016 cm3/day. A cubic cm of rain weighs 1 gm. Using the latent heat of condensation, this amount of rain produced gives

    5.2 x 1019 Joules/day or
    6.0 x 1014 Watts.

    This is equivalent to 200 times the world-wide electrical generating capacity.

    Theoretically, if one wanted to create a hurricane you would need a weapon even more powerful than that. So please, enlighten me chemtrail believers. How exactly would one get that done by spraying shit in the sky?
     
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  16. Caeldeth

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    All depends on what the atmospheric conditions are 30,000 feet in the air. If the air has so much water vapor in it already that it can’t hold anymore (its supersaturated) the ice crystals can’t sublimate, and so the contrail will stay around for a long time. Sometimes for hours.
     
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  17. Dundee

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    God Caeldeth, don't you know anything???? :)
    I thought you understood the weather?

     
  18. Castle-Yankee54

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    I always preferred the sundance.
     
  19. Caeldeth

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    I know a bit.
     
  20. humanoidlord

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    none of the above its an white faced lie
     
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