Chemtrail: Conspiracy theory or truth?

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
If these are contrails the pollution levels of av gas must be terrible for those living underneath them .

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how is water vapor pollution?
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
They show clips from LBJs presidency in the 1960s promoting weather control by injecting various compounds.

Drinking water supplies have higher levels of these compounds impacting tree and crop health - I don't have a source atm (claim in Frankenskies). A secondary business motive is to provide GMO crops that can resist these toxins.

So the news reports are from the 1960s?.....lol.....or is that the alleged chemtrails? This is all sounding rather contradictory.

Higher levels of what compounds?.....I do remember a former member of AU from Northern California. He didn't have any real evidence of toxic levels of any compounds...and he wouldn't show any lab reports or sampling locations to confirm his claims.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
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why does when two airliners flying very close along the path in the sky at the same time, one leaving a long trail that lasted all day, and the other leaving a short trail that disappeared immediately?
diferrent altitude = diferrent humidity
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
They show clips from LBJs presidency in the 1960s promoting weather control by injecting various compounds.

Drinking water supplies have higher levels of these compounds impacting tree and crop health - I don't have a source atm (claim in Frankenskies). A secondary business motive is to provide GMO crops that can resist these toxins..

I explored this before when connecting the dots: petro(dollar)/national security/DoD funding >> suppressing alternative energy sources/ET secrecy >> a man-made carbon factor towards global warming >> counter solution with geoengineering/nano metalic particles >> gmo agricultural corporations (monsanto etc) monopoly on food supply

Metabunk's Mick West is a bogus expert in the field. Gets some people fooled with convoluted charts and diagrams, as our friend humanoidlord.
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1967
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1953-adams-rails-and-jet-trailsLG.jpg

1954
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1940
quit it
ignorance isnt bliss
 

Area201

cold fusion
So the news reports are from the 1960s?.....lol.....or is that the alleged chemtrails? This is all sounding rather contradictory.

Higher levels of what compounds?.....I do remember a former member of AU from Northern California. He didn't have any real evidence of toxic levels of any compounds...and he wouldn't show any lab reports or sampling locations to confirm his claims.

Your first sentence is confusing and makes no sense to me.

Second question..

Short answer: the particles used are various stratospheric aerosols including heavy metals (cadmium, aluminum-coated fiberglass fiberglass, mercury, barium) that ultimately damage dna in humans and negatively disrupt biological life.

The issue is connecting geoengineering with nano particles found on specific locations on the ground or in specific people. "We don't know where it's coming from/there are many factors/we can't be sure of anything/it's the Easter Bunny" is the plausible deniability.

Long answer:
Cadmium – Carcinogenic. Compromises the cardiovascular, renal, gastrointestinal, neurological, reproductive and respiratory systems.

Nano-aluminum-coated fiberglass (CHAFF) – Impairs brain function. Linked with emotional instability, paranoia, poor memory, irritability, decreased alertness, mood disorders and bad judgment.

Mercury – Damages the nervous, respiratory, digestive, renal and immune systems.

Barium – Promotes cardiac arrhythmias, paralysis, high blood pressure, gastrointestinal disorders and respiratory failure. Barium is also implicated in neurodegenerative diseases like multiple sclerosis.

Sources:

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com
http://www.osha.gov
http://www.who.int
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is a very detailed paper on geoengineering science describing. This paper describes the most efficient type of aerosals are smallest in size or nano sized. The techniques found on wiki describe "aerosol precursor gases" that can be applied with civilian and military aircraft.

"The most optically efficient aerosol for climate modification would have sizes, Rp, of the order of 0.1 μm or somewhat less (here we use radius rather than diameter as the measure of particle size, and assume spherical, homogeneous particles at all times).

"Various techniques have been proposed for delivering the aerosol precursor gases (H2S and SO
2).[2] The required altitude to enter the stratosphere is the height of the tropopause, which varies from 11 kilometres (6.8 mi/36,000 ft) at the poles to 17 kilometres (11 mi/58,000 ft) at the equator.
  • Airliners could use lower-quality sulfur-rich fuels on higher altitudes. That approach would utilize regular flights and enable airlines to use cheaper fuels on long-distance flights. It would require using separate fuel tanks for takeoff and landing in populated areas, due to toxicity and olfactory sensations of sulfur oxides. This can be achieved in many airliners without difficulty, since they already have separate and selectable wing and fuselage fuel tanks.
  • Civilian aircraft including the Boeing 747-400 and Gulfstream G550/650, C-37A could be modified at relatively low cost to deliver sufficient amounts of required material.[34]
  • Military aircraft such as the F15-C variant of the F-15 Eagle have the necessary flight ceiling, but limited payload. Military tanker aircraft such as the KC-135 Stratotanker and KC-10 Extender also have the necessary ceiling and have greater payload capacity.
  • Modified artillery might have the necessary capability,but requires a polluting and expensive gunpowder charge to loft the payload. Railgun artillery could be a non-polluting alternative.
  • High-altitude balloons can be used to lift precursor gases, in tanks, bladders or in the balloons' envelope. Balloons can also be used to lift pipes and hoses, but no moored balloon has ever been deployed to the necessary altitude.
These are scientific papers studying the increased cases of nano-particles affecting human health and the environment.

https://www.americanscientist.org/article/dna-damage-and-nanoparticles

DNA Damage Caused by Metal Nanoparticles: the Involvement of Oxidative Stress and Activation of ATM
 

Area201

cold fusion
cloud-studies-115-500.jpg

1967
cloud-studies-115-500.jpg

1953-adams-rails-and-jet-trailsLG.jpg

1954
1944-91st-bomber-contrails.jpg

1940
quit it
ignorance isnt bliss

And your point is? That geoengineering has been around for decades?

the altitude/temperature factor Castle-Yankee brought up before will affect the contrails how long they persist, so if the plane in 1940 is way up in altitude it will remain long.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Your first sentence is confusing and makes no sense to me.

You said that there were news paper reports talking about geoengineering and that chemtrails related to them have only been happening for two decades. Then I asked that contrails/chemtrails have only been going on for two decades. Then you say the news reports are from the 1960s. Then I asked if it was the news reports or the alleged chemtrails from the 1960s.

The contradiction comes from the fact that the 1960s isn't a couple decades ago....unless of course your article was from the mid 1980s.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Short answer: the particles used are various stratospheric aerosols including heavy metals (cadmium, aluminum-coated fiberglass fiberglass, mercury, barium) that ultimately damage dna in humans and negatively disrupt biological life.

The issue is connecting geoengineering with nano particles found on specific locations on the ground or in specific people. "We don't know where it's coming from/there are many factors/we can't be sure of anything/it's the Easter Bunny" is the plausible deniability.

Thanks for the compounds or materials......that helps. But then I'm still looking for sampling plans, locations and conclusions including laboratory analytical reports. With out them the easter bunny is just as good a source.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Your first sentence is confusing and makes no sense to me.

Second question..

Short answer: the particles used are various stratospheric aerosols including heavy metals (cadmium, aluminum-coated fiberglass fiberglass, mercury, barium) that ultimately damage dna in humans and negatively disrupt biological life.

The issue is connecting geoengineering with nano particles found on specific locations on the ground or in specific people. "We don't know where it's coming from/there are many factors/we can't be sure of anything/it's the Easter Bunny" is the plausible deniability.

Long answer:
Cadmium – Carcinogenic. Compromises the cardiovascular, renal, gastrointestinal, neurological, reproductive and respiratory systems.

Nano-aluminum-coated fiberglass (CHAFF) – Impairs brain function. Linked with emotional instability, paranoia, poor memory, irritability, decreased alertness, mood disorders and bad judgment.

Mercury – Damages the nervous, respiratory, digestive, renal and immune systems.

Barium – Promotes cardiac arrhythmias, paralysis, high blood pressure, gastrointestinal disorders and respiratory failure. Barium is also implicated in neurodegenerative diseases like multiple sclerosis.

Sources:

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com
http://www.osha.gov
http://www.who.int
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is a very detailed paper on geoengineering science describing. This paper describes the most efficient type of aerosals are smallest in size or nano sized. The techniques found on wiki describe "aerosol precursor gases" that can be applied with civilian and military aircraft.

"The most optically efficient aerosol for climate modification would have sizes, Rp, of the order of 0.1 μm or somewhat less (here we use radius rather than diameter as the measure of particle size, and assume spherical, homogeneous particles at all times).

"Various techniques have been proposed for delivering the aerosol precursor gases (H2S and SO
2).[2] The required altitude to enter the stratosphere is the height of the tropopause, which varies from 11 kilometres (6.8 mi/36,000 ft) at the poles to 17 kilometres (11 mi/58,000 ft) at the equator.
  • Airliners could use lower-quality sulfur-rich fuels on higher altitudes. That approach would utilize regular flights and enable airlines to use cheaper fuels on long-distance flights. It would require using separate fuel tanks for takeoff and landing in populated areas, due to toxicity and olfactory sensations of sulfur oxides. This can be achieved in many airliners without difficulty, since they already have separate and selectable wing and fuselage fuel tanks.
  • Civilian aircraft including the Boeing 747-400 and Gulfstream G550/650, C-37A could be modified at relatively low cost to deliver sufficient amounts of required material.[34]
  • Military aircraft such as the F15-C variant of the F-15 Eagle have the necessary flight ceiling, but limited payload. Military tanker aircraft such as the KC-135 Stratotanker and KC-10 Extender also have the necessary ceiling and have greater payload capacity.
  • Modified artillery might have the necessary capability,but requires a polluting and expensive gunpowder charge to loft the payload. Railgun artillery could be a non-polluting alternative.
  • High-altitude balloons can be used to lift precursor gases, in tanks, bladders or in the balloons' envelope. Balloons can also be used to lift pipes and hoses, but no moored balloon has ever been deployed to the necessary altitude.
These are scientific papers studying the increased cases of nano-particles affecting human health and the environment.

https://www.americanscientist.org/article/dna-damage-and-nanoparticles

DNA Damage Caused by Metal Nanoparticles: the Involvement of Oxidative Stress and Activation of ATM


There's no evidence any of these compounds are intentionally being sprayed in the upper atmosphere...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
There's no evidence any of these compounds are intentionally being sprayed in the upper atmosphere...

This is one of the reasons I'd want to see sampling reports.....it would explain things. The thread at AU/AH had several additional alleged contaminants......silver and aluminum being among them.

Even if the contrails were something besides water vapor and trace contaminants.....the materials you think is above you wouldn't come straight down. Because of the jet stream it would come down hundreds of miles away.
 
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