Chemtrail: Conspiracy theory or truth?

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Yes, it is nice out here. Follow the contrail on the left for about 10km and go left and your at my place :)

If I ever made it to Oz I'd find it......or a pub to toss back a few pints. I always wanted to see the great never, never. I wanted to go to the Ediacaran Hills and the "12" apostles area too. I think the pub at Coober Pedy sounds good too.
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
If I ever made it to Oz I'd find it......or a pub to toss back a few pints. I always wanted to see the great never, never. I wanted to go to the Ediacaran Hills and the "12" apostles area too. I think the pub at Coober Pedy sounds good too.
Ediacaran Hills... Had to look that one up. Fossil hunting of course :)
12 Apostles, hmmm looks like we are riding bikes ;)

 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
I was able to see the trails around the apostles on google earth street view.....geology looks amazing!!
I confess that I have often looked at the geology in that area, and with only a rudimentary knowledge of what I am looking at and it frustrates me that I am missing the big picture. It would great to sit down with someone who knows what there looking at over a whiskey or 5.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I confess that I have often looked at the geology in that area, and with only a rudimentary knowledge of what I am looking at and it frustrates me that I am missing the big picture. It would great to sit down with someone who knows what there looking at over a whiskey or 5.

I saw a couple nice whiskey benches on the trail.....lol.....:drinks:.

I'm sure we might see a few contrails if its a clear day too!!
 

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
Chemtrail: Conspiracy theory or truth?

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I live in an area where we constantly get the airforce flying over on their bombing runs. Haven't grown a second head yet....

There would be easier ways to getting chemical agents over population centres. Water supply being one of them...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
There would be easier ways to getting chemical agents over population centres. Water supply being one of them...

One needs spraying like Operation Ranch Hand......not 30,000 feet where if there was anything to them but vapor it would be blown along for hundreds of miles. It wouldn't settle straight down.....lol. Many of the contrails we see are not directly over us as it is.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
There would be easier ways to getting chemical agents over population centres. Water supply being one of them...

Food or water would be an easier source to introduce chemicals into a population than air...
 

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
Food or water would be an easier source to introduce chemicals into a population than air...

Absolutely. Think of the amount of planes needed for infection of a populace. Water supply you can guarantee a 100% exposure rate if the populace has access to water on tap as most modern countires do.
 

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
This is assuming the areas are all on public water.

I don't think that would stop a tyranical government from introducing a chemical into the water supply if they were privately owned or otherwise.

All the water is privately owned in the UK however it would seem the Government still has some form of power over it.

If you do not pay your water bills, the water supplier cannot let the taps run dry as this would be illegal under UK law. Most they can do is send the debt collectors round...
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I don't think that would stop a tyranical government from introducing a chemical into the water supply if they were privately owned or otherwise.

All the water is privately owned in the UK however it would seem the Government still has some form of power over it.

If you do not pay your water bills, the water supplier cannot let the taps run dry as this would be illegal under UK law. Most they can do is send the debt collectors round...

There are many private wells in the US where the property owners make no payments for.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I live in an area where we constantly get the airforce flying over on their bombing runs. Haven't grown a second head yet.

I live under the main air corridor in the northeast.....I haven't either.

I also haven't seen any of the alleged pollutants claimed to be impacting the soil and water.....and I've never been shown any laboratory analytical reports along with the sampling plans. I think this would help.
 

Area201

cold fusion
I was still wondering if you could explain when the new reports and alleged chemtrails were from......is it the 1960s or 30 years later?

There's footage from LBJ (1960s) talking about controlling the weather through geoengineering.

Recently (2016?) John Brennan talked about this as a method to counter climate change/global warming by reflecting sunlight.

The fucktards at metajunk think they "debunked" the story. I suspect these have been black project/budget operations going back several decades. I'm not sure when they started doing specific nano-sized metalic particles that geoengineering watch groups claim exist.

They show and interview people with wierd fiber-glass material coming out of their skin and also getting sick after these "contrails" in their general area. While it's true the air stream and other factors would not allow them fall straight down if they are being sprayed. By "sprayed" we mean a number of ways I posted before. There could be a host of experimental ways which they could have this without public knowledge. They perfected the method(s) and now rolling over the black project(s) into the public corporate side and according to the "Frankeskies" documentary producer - gmo agricultural related companies.

The cover excuse (one legit purpose) of geoengineering is the reflecing sunlight, but he proposes even further gmo related business and global control of the food supply ventures. Now with ocean accidifcation from extra carbon release and other climate change factors, they want to "introduce" this concept as a way to "save the planet" they helped create the problem in the first place.

When exactly these things started? I don't know.



Here's how I got interested in this subject. Only about 2 years ago I went into a 7-11 and looked up at the sky. I noticed strange contrails all over that didn't look right. Yes we have lots of airports nearby and planes go by, and I'm aware of contrail drifting to form patterns.. I asked a local guy what's the deal and he said that this happens periodically depending on certain weather conditions. He thinks its the "chemtrails" etc.

So... I googled this. I was led to no other than, our dis-info agent Mick West and his charts on megajunk.com. I looked over his forum and found that the ONLY WAY to show such things are real and directly linked to what's happening on the ground and in people, is by capturing the very contrail, then taking it for analysis.

I looked if someone tried this. I found a German investigator who did try this very thing. He rented out a plane so he can capture the contrails and study them. What we found first try was "inconclusive". He wanted and needed to go HIGHER in the stratosphere. He had INFORM the sky controllers (government agency). Thus, this experiment had a flaw. It was not random. It gave a heads-up to anyone who, had they been part of any geoengineering program, would be able to not do their runs that day when the investigation would take place. So conclusion, there is NO WAY to prove these things are taking place or satisfactory to skeptics.

Watch OVERCAST-an investigation into climate engineering Online | Vimeo On Demand
 
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Area201

cold fusion
Another kicker. Ready for this?

The scientist working with the Overcast film maker, could not get the samples studied properly at any US lab.. they seem to not do it.. he had to resort to using a special blood separation machine. The details are in the film.

If you have some 21 trillion dollars to work with and unlimited spying/satellite surveillance of space and skies, you pretty much can get away with anything.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
While it's true the air stream and other factors would not allow them fall straight down if they are being sprayed. By "sprayed" we mean a number of ways I posted before. There could be a host of experimental ways which they could have this without public knowledge.

I looked if someone tried this. I found a German investigator who did try this very thing. He rented out a plane so he can capture the contrails and study them. What we found first try was "inconclusive". He wanted and needed to go HIGHER in the stratosphere. He had INFORM the sky controllers (government agency). Thus, this experiment had a flaw. It was not random. It gave a heads-up to anyone who, had they been part of any geoengineering program, would be able to not do their runs that day when the investigation would take place. So conclusion, there is NO WAY to prove these things are taking place or satisfactory to skeptics.

Could you remind me of those different ways if they are not the every day contrails.

As for any laboratory analysis taken from the air this is assuming that they are spraying. Also if they can supply laboratory analytical reports of soil and water samples collected properly perhaps that will help.......but then they can't do this either.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
Another kicker. Ready for this?

The scientist working with the Overcast film maker, could not get the samples studied properly at any US lab.. they seem to not do it.

This is another lame excuse they always use.....and this statement is actually amusing.
 

Area201

cold fusion
Could you remind me of those different ways if they are not the every day contrails.

As for any laboratory analysis taken from the air this is assuming that they are spraying. Also if they can supply laboratory analytical reports of soil and water samples collected properly perhaps that will help.......but then they can't do this either.

I'd have to contact the movie maker and see if I can get the exact results, times, labs, people involved, etc. Maybe I'll do it. I have a lot of home improvement projects to get done too.

"Various techniques have been proposed for delivering the aerosol precursor gases (H2S and SO
2).[2] The required altitude to enter the stratosphere is the height of the tropopause, which varies from 11 kilometres (6.8 mi/36,000 ft) at the poles to 17 kilometres (11 mi/58,000 ft) at the equator.
  • Airliners could use lower-quality sulfur-rich fuels on higher altitudes. That approach would utilize regular flights and enable airlines to use cheaper fuels on long-distance flights. It would require using separate fuel tanks for takeoff and landing in populated areas, due to toxicity and olfactory sensations of sulfur oxides. This can be achieved in many airliners without difficulty, since they already have separate and selectable wing and fuselage fuel tanks.
  • Civilian aircraft including the Boeing 747-400 and Gulfstream G550/650, C-37A could be modified at relatively low cost to deliver sufficient amounts of required material.[34]
  • Military aircraft such as the F15-C variant of the F-15 Eagle have the necessary flight ceiling, but limited payload. Military tanker aircraft such as the KC-135 Stratotanker and KC-10 Extender also have the necessary ceiling and have greater payload capacity.
  • Modified artillery might have the necessary capability,but requires a polluting and expensive gunpowder charge to loft the payload. Railgun artillery could be a non-polluting alternative.
  • High-altitude balloons can be used to lift precursor gases, in tanks, bladders or in the balloons' envelope. Balloons can also be used to lift pipes and hoses, but no moored balloon has ever been deployed to the necessary altitude.
 
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