Closed Eye Visualizations CEVs

iwant2believe2

Honorable
Wondering if anyone here does this and what level are you? Narcolepsy makes it quite easy for me at every level though I do not often pursue them at the higher levels. Darkness nor closed eye is necessary for me as I can perceive it with open eyes in full light. Would like to confer with others at this level. I am speaking of those who have attained these levels naturally without meditation, sensory deprivation or hallucinogenic drugs.

What I find interesting about CEVs is the theory that the form constant light shows are actually biophotons being emitted from the brain and perceived by the visual cortex. A photon is an elementary particle that demonstrates the wave-particle duality. (Forgive my rudimentary scientific knowledge here but I was never very good with hard core physics.) Phosphenes are now thought to be biophotons emitted from various internal sources. Typically, phosphenes are only detectable when emitted due to mechanical stimulation, electrical stimulation or certain hallucinogenic drugs.

CEVs result from none of the above. The phosphenes or biophotons evidenced in the geometric form constants perceived during CEVs are produced by neural processes that are not, at this time, clearly defined or identified. I find this interesting because of what happens at the higher levels of CEVs. I believe the first few levels should be natural to everyone and it shouldn't take a lot to achieve the higher levels. Try this experiment...once the geometric light show begins, think of a shape. Don't attempt to see the shape in your mind's eye rather attempt to see the shape amid the swirls of light. When the shape clearly rises, it will be a dark mass and outlined in light...like the moon in front of the sun. The shape will be 3d as opposed to the 2d of mental imagery. You will note the difference when you experience it. Simplistic shapes are the best to start with but in time details can be obtained and the shape held for greater lengths of time. The interesting aspect of this is that the 3d shape is being fashioned out of the manipulation of elementary particles of light by thought alone. The mind is manipulating elementary particles to create a 3d form. Though its existence is fleeting, it is the Mind manipulating matter to create reality in our physical world. Because the form is made of matter and 3d, can it be truly said to be existent or should we continue to pretend that it is an hallucinatory 2d image in the mind simply because we do not grasp how mind can manipulate matter at will to create reality? Further, can we regard the form as 4d because the matter exists in the normal spatial 3 dimensions with shape being the abstract concept that is the 4 dimension?

Another note: hallucinations are physical phenomena and are not indicative of mental illness. Hallucinations accompanied by delusion, which is an abnormal thought process (mental), are. The key of differentiation is 'delusion'. Delusion exists when the belief that a thing is real (i.e. a hallucinatory image) despite evidence to the contrary or where no evidence exists. Being unable to recognize the delusion is the hallmark. As they say, 'crazy people don't know they're crazy'

What we doing here, though, is examining this natural phenomena, examining the evidence and asking what, how and why. I think, by and large, we are afraid to examine our minds and the nature of reality too closely. I think we are afraid that the truth of what we are would either prove too overwhelming or too disappointing.
 

Merle

Honorable
err... what does CEV stand for?

duh... ignore that... I didn't read the title properly until now.....

I'm one of those people who are not visual, as in I don't use visualisation for thinking, remembering, creating and recalling information so it's all a bit of a puzzle to me... I operate using totally different senses a as a way to knowing and seeing...

However, I do know that there are certain types of Visualisation Therapies, with open and closed eyes, for people with certain types learning difficulties and certain types of disabilities where learning to visualise can be of help...

That's it, that's all I know about it... not very much eh?
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Crazy people can be geniuses as well and be a matter of perspective. What is crazy to one might not be so to another.
I have tried what you speak of tutu.
I did it before my early days of mental discipline and meditations.

Most people thought of me being...crazy... for doing all that.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I did much reading on this, its interesting i didnt know this as being called CEVs, although having experience...My inner sight has changed especially over the past couple years, I've noticed twice waking up in the middle of the night, getting up and going to the kitchen for a glass of water, go back to bed to realize my eyes were closed the whole time...
 

iwant2believe2

Honorable
Being a narcoleptic, I literally have one foot in the 'real' world and one foot in the 'dream' world at all times. CEVs are as natural to me as a baby suckling. It was a long time before I learned that its not an experience that everyone has without some mechanical assist. I would equate it as one having synesthesia...you just think its a normal way of being...because to you it is...until you learn otherwise. Unlike synesthesia, though, CEVs are something everyone can do with practice, I suppose. And I think there is some connection here...between the Mind and the actual construct of reality...that is worth exploring. Without conferring with others, though, I feel lost in being able to find the connection. I need more than just my own experiences as a point of reference.
 

coubob

Celestial
If while doing a CEV and one is able to visualize looking through the eyes of an animal that is near you, it that something different or the same thing.
 

ImmortalLegend527

The Messenger Of All Gods old and new
Don't know what cev means, so i guess im clueless on what this thread is and i have been banned for giving to many secrets out from looking stuff up.

Earlier this year I started seeing through peoples eyes and without meditation, i can glimpse into the future for a about 1.9 seconds to about 3.2 seconds.I told you this because it seems like this is your subject or door of interest.Whenever I jump into someones...eyes I guess, my eyes roll so far back into my head that it's really unbearable to hold me being in some else brains or eyes or however it happens.

If I was to try to roll my eyes to the back of my head the way it does when I am seeing through someone's eyes I couldn't even do it halfway.

Do you have any knowledge in your upload, as to why the eyes roll so hard to the back of my head.if you do how could I relive at least 13 to 23% of the pressure.I strenuously held the sight for about 17 seconds with no problem but it hurts, it hurts really bad.

For some reason, all my gifts this year got flipped around to a point of starting over.I use to meditate or go into realm sleep with a lot of doors that I have opened up over ions of being on this earth...and then they all flipped...just flipped to a point in which I don't have to go into some type of meditation or sleep but not sleep method.

I need alot of help because 2months ago when i was not banned your net had no answers as well.

was copy written by iml527 September 21,3017 The year of the flipping uploads The flipping of gifts/doors/frequencies.
Reason for this information in 2017 is pivotal to time..because if iml527 img527 gifts have flipped then most likely everyone gifts have flipped in some way.

the 7 in 2017 may be a factor or a planet alignment maybe but whatever happened at the start of 2017.

numbers spells have been cast, a September 23rd time spell has been cast, the gifts are flipping hurricanes above their limits are forming that are not natural, earthquakes, North Korea.

The message followed the mythological characters.Elf is 1 that's for sure and then harp short for harpie or harpy and then its the third one.. we just can't find the third character.
 
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