Could Parallel Universes Be Physically Real?

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I feel that from a perspective we are all different kinds of physicists hedging our bets on different theories :Sneaky: Oh I've missed this. This is exactly the kind of environment better understanding is born from. I've actually learned a lot today about this very subject, I suppose in some ways it could be said that the universe isn't expanding at a constant.

The mind is blown. I do feel though the simple difference of rate expansion is literal time dilation. I say this in all confidence among respected peers, What a Fucking pain in the ass Dark energy is to account for.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Hey guys, I would like to throw in a side concept here, IF parallel realities were real. Could their gravity and pull be the principle that we recognize as Dark energy pulling on our universe?

What if this Vacuum force, is literally just that our universe is being tugged in various directions by the gravity of other realities?
 

Georgek

George
I feel that from a perspective we are all different kinds of physicists hedging our bets on different theories :Sneaky: Oh I've missed this. This is exactly the kind of environment better understanding is born from. I've actually learned a lot today about this very subject, I suppose in some ways it could be said that the universe isn't expanding at a constant.

The mind is blown. I do feel though the simple difference of rate expansion is literal time dilation. I say this in all confidence among respected peers, What a Fucking pain in the ass Dark energy is to account for.
Hello Shadowprophet

These are some of my 'mad cap' theories that I posted.

Nothing proven as yet.

In engineering, the 'pull' is away from the paranormal.
Instead it had taught me that there is a push-pull effect in the universe and that is called The Transient.

Transient force is the force that precedes flow. It follows up behind.

A bulb will usually blow when the light is switched on. With computers, more harm is caused by switching them on and off.
I have seen power supplies that had not been switched off for twelve years and have lasted longer than those switched on and off. Okay the fan wears out and they get clogged up with dust and blow, but that is all.

To me...the transient force is a God thing. It keeps a pendulum force in motion until the springs or weights wear down.

We can spin a flywheel so fast that it will store energy because it feeds back into the wheel by circular motion.

In mechanics if it spins faster, it will break to pieces. However, if we use mathematics we can show that when it spins faster, it transforms.

Imagine Einstein's train theory? Instead we are a spot on the circumference on that flywheel and travelling very fast.

The effect is the same as E=MC^2 and our formula transposes very close but instead we are using radians
In maths we say:- "Bingo" because both devices arrive at a similar formula in a different way.

Then our mechanical devices fall apart.

With mathematics, we know that the formula works because we had used analytical maths.

If we go further with transposition all strange things happen because we exceed the speed of light.

We know the speed of light but cannot demonstrate it physically because nothing can go faster, but we can demonstrate it mathematically.

We say:- "What if?"

With integration we go from one dimension (a line) Two dimensions the 'Y' axis appears. Three dimension the 'Z' axis appears to give us a spring from our Sine wave.

Physics is lost at that point

So we transpose again and our spring becomes a sphere.

Transpose one more time and our sphere is squashed like a hammer smashing it as it splatters sideways.

The energy is really potent at that point but it has to over take the speed of light .

What do we see?

It will take a better engineer than myself..lol
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Hello Shadowprophet

These are some of my 'mad cap' theories that I posted.

Nothing proven as yet.

In engineering, the 'pull' is away from the paranormal.
Instead it had taught me that there is a push-pull effect in the universe and that is called The Transient.

Transient force is the force that precedes flow. It follows up behind.

A bulb will usually blow when the light is switched on. With computers, more harm is caused by switching them on and off.
I have seen power supplies that had not been switched off for twelve years and have lasted longer than those switched on and off. Okay the fan wears out and they get clogged up with dust and blow, but that is all.

To me...the transient force is a God thing. It keeps a pendulum force in motion until the springs or weights wear down.

We can spin a flywheel so fast that it will store energy because it feeds back into the wheel by circular motion.

In mechanics if it spins faster, it will break to pieces. However, if we use mathematics we can show that when it spins faster, it transforms.

Imagine Einstein's train theory? Instead we are a spot on the circumference on that flywheel and travelling very fast.

The effect is the same as E=MC^2 and our formula transposes very close but instead we are using radians
In maths we say:- "Bingo" because both devices arrive at a similar formula in a different way.

Then our mechanical devices fall apart.

With mathematics, we know that the formula works because we had used analytical maths.

If we go further with transposition all strange things happen because we exceed the speed of light.

We know the speed of light but cannot demonstrate it physically because nothing can go faster, but we can demonstrate it mathematically.

We say:- "What if?"

With integration we go from one dimension (a line) Two dimensions the 'Y' axis appears. Three dimension the 'Z' axis appears to give us a spring from our Sine wave.

Physics is lost at that point

So we transpose again and our spring becomes a sphere.

Transpose one more time and our sphere is squashed like a hammer smashing it as it splatters sideways.

The energy is really potent at that point but it has to over take the speed of light .

What do we see?

It will take a better engineer than myself..lol
I've been reading on Transient Response Transient response - Wikipedia And it's relation to acceleration. See as a Quantum and particle centric focus, Macrosystems are actually something I'm not studied in. But there has never been a better time to start learning I don't guess lol.
 

Georgek

George
Hey guys, I would like to throw in a side concept here, IF parallel realities were real. Could their gravity and pull be the principle that we recognize as Dark energy pulling on our universe?

What if this Vacuum force, is literally just that our universe is being tugged in various directions by the gravity of other realities?
That is going beyond me.

I have had some discussion about matter being energy..but that is also losing me.

The concept of life is that there has to be positive and negative.
Love and hate. Black and white and so on.

They say that we cannot live without sin?

So there must be Dark Energy pulling our universe but how do we explain it?
We have to see it first as to recognise it.

It could even be a God thing based on:- "war in the heavens"

Why can't God wipe out evil?
Perhaps dark energy has to be there for white energy to exist?

A thing exists because we can compare to it's opposite. How do we see light if there is no darkness?
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
That is going beyond me.

I have had some discussion about matter being energy..but that is also losing me.

The concept of life is that there has to be positive and negative.
Love and hate. Black and white and so on.

They say that we cannot live without sin?

So there must be Dark Energy pulling our universe but how do we explain it?
We have to see it first as to recognise it.

It could even be a God thing based on:- "war in the heavens"

Why can't God wipe out evil?
Perhaps dark energy has to be there for white energy to exist?

A thing exists because we can compare to it's opposite. How do we see light if there is no darkness?
I love how you have found a way to maintain Gods presence amidst your studies. I've always struggled with that.
 

spacecase0

earth human
Why can't God wipe out evil?
Perhaps dark energy has to be there for white energy to exist?

dark matter is a patch of broken ideas. is it working ?

A thing exists because we can compare to it's opposite. How do we see light if there is no darkness?
look into how you program artificial intelligence
give them more rules to start with and it causes them to learn faster, but side effect is that they fail earlier.
give them no rules or very few rules and they learn, they take way more time to learn, but they last way longer...
so, apply this idea to our reality.
you get that god can't wipe out evil, that would be some external rule that would seriously limit how long this reality lasts.
if god did this proposed lmits, this reality would be cut short
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
look into how you program artificial intelligence
give them more rules to start with and it causes them to learn faster, but side effect is that they fail earlier.
give them no rules or very few rules and they learn, they take way more time to learn, but they last way longer...
so, apply this idea to our reality.
you get that god can't wipe out evil, that would be some external rule that would seriously limit how long this reality lasts.
if god did this proposed lmits, this reality would be cut short
This reality won't last eternally, Entropy will see to that. Time with all its dilations is still not a force we would fully master. Eventually no matter how much time we could possibly travel Our bodies will succumb to entropy. A better understanding of time does not make us Gods. It just lets us see our own faults better. Even if we could travel time we would be no closer to mastering it.

Artificial intelligence comes in many stages. True sentience in a machine has yet to be achieved. The scientific world is divided on if it can be achieved or not.
 

spacecase0

earth human
This reality won't last eternally, Entropy will see to that. Time with all its dilations is still not a force we would fully master. Eventually no matter how much time we could possibly travel Our bodies will succumb to entropy. A better understanding of time does not make us Gods. It just lets us see our own faults better. Even if we could travel time we would be no closer to mastering it.

Artificial intelligence comes in many stages. True sentience in a machine has yet to be achieved. The scientific world is divided on if it can be achieved or not.
artificial intelligence is just that...
suppose that the question here is if something can escape its invention.
as far as physical reality, can a construct in a reality take over that reality and subdue the inventor ?
 

spacecase0

earth human
Entropy is an odd thing,
gravity is an anti Entropy thing
if you assume that Entropy is real and take it into you heart entirely,
you likely can convince yourself that you will die soon...
so, I am just saying that you might want to look a bit deeper into the evidence we have before deciding that Entropy favors one side or the other
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
The universe is expanding at roughly 72 kilometers per second per megaparsec, While the speed of light is about 299.792 kilometers per second Expansion of the universe - Wikipedia The universe is expanding at roughly 1/4th the speed of light or about 25 percent lightspeed. If the universe were to expand FTL all physical matter would break down into energy.

72 meters per second per megaparsec (3.08567758149137×1016 meters).
The correct number is 74.3 KILOMETERS per megaparsec

A light year is
9460730472580800 meters. The light has been traveling for 13 billion years ( a year is 31557600 seconds) .
3261563.7769 light years per megaparsec.

How fast would 13 billion light years of space change end to end?

286978904.606806 or almost the speed of light. Which is why we can only see light from about 8 billion light years away.

How Big is the Universe?


The Universe is estimated to be 7 billion across. The opposite edges are moving away from each other at
154527102480.588 meters per second or 515.4469312253 times the speed of light (or about Warp 8 in STOS).
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Entropy is an odd thing,
gravity is an anti Entropy thing
if you assume that Entropy is real and take it into you heart entirely,
you likely can convince yourself that you will die soon...
so, I am just saying that you might want to look a bit deeper into the evidence we have before deciding that Entropy favors one side or the other
The problem is Entropy is assumed. The standard model depends on it. But you are correct, It's not proven. Yet, In many ways, We depend upon it even in things like the Milgram doses in medications. To that practical extent, Entropy is assumed. But No, It's not proven. I still work on the principle that half-life must transpire or at least seems to transpire at a predictable rate.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
72 meters per second per megaparsec (3.08567758149137×1016 meters).
The correct number is 74.3 KILOMETERS per megaparsec

A light year is
9460730472580800 meters. The light has been traveling for 13 billion years ( a year is 31557600 seconds) .
3261563.7769 light years per megaparsec.

How fast would 13 billion light years of space change end to end?

286978904.606806 or almost the speed of light. Which is why we can only see light from about 8 billion light years away.

How Big is the Universe?


The Universe is estimated to be 7 billion across. The opposite edges are moving away from each other at
154527102480.588 meters per second or 515.4469312253 times the speed of light (or about Warp 8 in STOS).

And yet the acceleration rate of the mass has not achieved light speed, On the relative distance between two objects in motion. This is a space-time phenomenon that does not factually break the light speed barrier with physical matter. The reason you are only seeing light from 8 billion light years away is that as one side of the universe speeds away from the other is the relative speed does exceed the speed of light. when the two expand apart. I'm only stressing that at no point does the actual expansion of physical matter exceed the acceleration of light,
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I suppose you could say That the universe is expanding faster than light, as easily as you could say it isn't measuring it from one end to the other, it basically is.. Still. that's a simple expansion formula. The actual matter is not exceeding light speed though.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
I suppose you could say That the universe is expanding faster than light, as easily as you could say it isn't measuring it from one end to the other, it basically is.. Still. that's a simple expansion formula. The actual matter is not exceeding light speed though.

I do need to correct a typo, the universe is 7 trillion LY across.

You are right butt.

The butt is that the edge of space is expanding into nothingness at about 207.7 times the speed of light.

The common model is raisin on a sheet of dough or marks on a rubber sheet.

The space is stretching which doesn't affect the objects (mostly). But because the space the light is going through is stretched the wavelength is longer, which effectively makes the light lower energy. The speed of light is an effect of space (a bunch of tensor fields) and doesn't apply to space itself.

Morrison has a better understanding of this and perhaps can explain where the lost energy of the light went.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I do need to correct a typo, the universe is 7 trillion LY across.

You are right butt.

The butt is that the edge of space is expanding into nothingness at about 207.7 times the speed of light.

The common model is raisin on a sheet of dough or marks on a rubber sheet.

The space is stretching which doesn't affect the objects (mostly). But because the space the light is going through is stretched the wavelength is longer, which effectively makes the light lower energy.

Morrison has a better understanding of this and perhaps can explain where the lost energy of the light went.
The diameter of the observable universe is 93 billion light-years (28 billion parsecs).

the distance between Earth and the edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light-years (14 billion parsecs), making the diameter of the observable universe about 93 billion light-years (28 billion parsecs). That's a far cry from trillions, Where are you getting the trillions measurement? Accounting for something beyond the observable is allowable, but you are being very specific with numbers here. Where did you get 7 trillion from bro?
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
The diameter of the observable universe is 93 billion light-years (28 billion parsecs).

the distance between Earth and the edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light-years (14 billion parsecs), making the diameter of the observable universe about 93 billion light-years (28 billion parsecs). That's a far cry from trillions, Where are you getting the trillions measurement? Accounting for something beyond the observable is allowable, but you are being very specific with numbers here. Where did you get 7 trillion from bro?

1. Where did you get 7 trillion from bro?
How Big is the Universe?

2. edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light-years
It depends on how you view it.

The light we can see comes from (roughly) around a circle of radius 8 billion light years 13 billion years ago.

The 8 billion light years expanded about 6 billion light years in front of it and about 12 billion years behind it.

8 + 12 + 8 = 24. so the galaxy on the edge of vision are 23-24 billion LY away now (proper distance), 8 billion LY (

So a galaxy that was 8 billion light years away (comoving distance) is now 23-24 billion light years away (proper distance), and 13.5 billion light years away (light distance).

If you went back to check the distance to the galaxy 24 billion light years away in proper distance - you would never be able to confirm it because the space in between is stretching at around 1.8 C (and increasing) so you would never get there. The further you travel toward it the greater the distance you are away from it.

Something nobody has mentioned but seems true:

The light from the 8 billion LY distance galaxy is now coming from a 24 billion light year distant galaxy. That means the light from these galaxies should be getting redder and will eventually disappear since they are too far away to see.
 
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Standingstones

Celestial
Knowing that there are Billions of galaxies in our known universe, it doesn’t takes great leap of faith to think there maybe alternate universes similar to our own.
 

Georgek

George
I love how you have found a way to maintain Gods presence amidst your studies. I've always struggled with that.

Hello Shadowprophet,

I think this is difficult to answer and it relates to faith.

There has been no occasion when something had turned to me and said:- "I am God"

The main reason why I incorporate this god factor in my studies, is because of the great power involved.

Perhaps my UFO experiences are more God like?

I think the main reason was when I used to hang around with Frank Earp and before I had that very first UFO experience in my garden back in 1965. 11th August to be exact.

They knew everything about me and Frank and our group. Reasons I had put forward earlier.

When I did a lot of EVP recordings I asked about God.

1) Who was Jesus?
ans:- Just a man

2) Do you worship God?
ans:- Not enough as we worship him every moment.

3) Where is God?
ans:- He/it has left because of all the wars but he will be back.

From my experiences I am in contact with something so powerful that although it is not God...it is pretty close.
It/they know too much. I am 100% sure that they are even zooming into you as I am typing this post.

With all my experience, I still do not know exactly what I am dealing with?
Guides or/and UFOs.
They will not discuss themselves with me.

I think the major thing that did it for me, was when Swalli (Steve Wallis) on a different forum back in 2008 asked me to produce a hurricane in Maine within 2 weeks or to shut up.

To me, that was my turning point. I swear to you that I just wanted to 'pack it all in' at that point and wanted to fail. It hurt me so much with all the intimidation. I felt hurt being regarded a mad. Now I do not care.

I really wanted to turn my life around and just go on living a life of normality.

I had created a post on this all date stamped.

I prayed to my mentors to put that power into my hand. I thought back through all my life and what I had experienced so far.

Realised that I was correct and that this power was with me. To me, it was putting this all to the test , as I had complete faith that I could do it, even though it was impossible.

My faith made me take up that challenge and I realised that if this was all true...then they would stick by me. By which they said that they would.

I had so much faith at that point, that if they said that I could walk on water, I would believe it. I would believe it, because I had seen these strange things as I had documented. To me, there was no imagination, mistake or misunderstanding.

It was like:- "Would you like to go for question 10 by which you would win $5678,000,000 or lose $5677,999,999?"
I would have said:- "yes"

So I printed a picture of Hurricane Kyle which was travelling very slowly towards Jamaica I think, well away from the USA and started to spin it around with my finger as to make it turn faster and faster in my head. Then flicked it North West towards the city of Maine on the Eastern coast of America.

They all laughed at me at that point and said that the water were too cold. I had 2 weeks to do this, so I wrote a post ...something like 'Let's Watch'


After 2/3 days Hurricane Kyle, turned 180 degrees and pointed it's nose towards Maine.
It hurtled along at a great speed as Emergency news flashes gripped the city as to prepare for a hurricane direct hit...the first in 17 years. Klaxons were already sounding for boats to move away.

Kyle hit Maine as predicted.

That to me was a miracle and I believe it came INDIRECTLY from God. I realised that this power wanted me for whatever reason?

So yer..madness...coincidence ...superstition..whatever...

That boosted my faith.

Was that God?

ConanPoe said:- "The gods have shown me a place of prophetic significance...."
Indeed Wollaton Hall.

Okay.....this may make me out as mad...crazy whatever.....
Most importantly I feel my life had been blessed.

Some may say:- "UFOs"..no God?

How can I argue that point?

Or how do I know it is not evil?
I cannot.
Then I had the incident with my house in the country.

How can I not believe?

I have to believe something and yes...I cannot prove this to anyone here on this forum because it is all down to faith.
Some may think it is Jesus....and others Satan?

Whatever it is.....the power is awesome.

Regards

George
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Hello Shadowprophet,

I think this is difficult to answer and it relates to faith.

There has been no occasion when something had turned to me and said:- "I am God"

The main reason why I incorporate this god factor in my studies, is because of the great power involved.

Perhaps my UFO experiences are more God like?

I think the main reason was when I used to hang around with Frank Earp and before I had that very first UFO experience in my garden back in 1965. 11th August to be exact.

They knew everything about me and Frank and our group. Reasons I had put forward earlier.

When I did a lot of EVP recordings I asked about God.

1) Who was Jesus?
ans:- Just a man

2) Do you worship God?
ans:- Not enough as we worship him every moment.

3) Where is God?
ans:- He/it has left because of all the wars but he will be back.

From my experiences I am in contact with something so powerful that although it is not God...it is pretty close.
It/they know too much. I am 100% sure that they are even zooming into you as I am typing this post.

With all my experience, I still do not know exactly what I am dealing with?
Guides or/and UFOs.
They will not discuss themselves with me.

I think the major thing that did it for me, was when Swalli (Steve Wallis) on a different forum back in 2008 asked me to produce a hurricane in Maine within 2 weeks or to shut up.

To me, that was my turning point. I swear to you that I just wanted to 'pack it all in' at that point and wanted to fail. It hurt me so much with all the intimidation. I felt hurt being regarded a mad. Now I do not care.

I really wanted to turn my life around and just go on living a life of normality.

I had created a post on this all date stamped.

I prayed to my mentors to put that power into my hand. I thought back through all my life and what I had experienced so far.

Realised that I was correct and that this power was with me. To me, it was putting this all to the test , as I had complete faith that I could do it, even though it was impossible.

My faith made me take up that challenge and I realised that if this was all true...then they would stick by me. By which they said that they would.

I had so much faith at that point, that if they said that I could walk on water, I would believe it. I would believe it, because I had seen these strange things as I had documented. To me, there was no imagination, mistake or misunderstanding.

It was like:- "Would you like to go for question 10 by which you would win $5678,000,000 or lose $5677,999,999?"
I would have said:- "yes"

So I printed a picture of Hurricane Kyle which was travelling very slowly towards Jamaica I think, well away from the USA and started to spin it around with my finger as to make it turn faster and faster in my head. Then flicked it North West towards the city of Maine on the Eastern coast of America.

They all laughed at me at that point and said that the water were too cold. I had 2 weeks to do this, so I wrote a post ...something like 'Let's Watch'


After 2/3 days Hurricane Kyle, turned 180 degrees and pointed it's nose towards Maine.
It hurtled along at a great speed as Emergency news flashes gripped the city as to prepare for a hurricane direct hit...the first in 17 years. Klaxons were already sounding for boats to move away.

Kyle hit Maine as predicted.

That to me was a miracle and I believe it came INDIRECTLY from God. I realised that this power wanted me for whatever reason?

So yer..madness...coincidence ...superstition..whatever...

That boosted my faith.

Was that God?

ConanPoe said:- "The gods have shown me a place of prophetic significance...."
Indeed Wollaton Hall.

Okay.....this may make me out as mad...crazy whatever.....
Most importantly I feel my life had been blessed.

Some may say:- "UFOs"..no God?

How can I argue that point?

Or how do I know it is not evil?
I cannot.
Then I had the incident with my house in the country.

How can I not believe?

I have to believe something nd yes...I cannot prove this to anyone here on this forum because it is all down to faith.
Some may think it is Jesus....and others Satan?

Whatever it is.....the power is awesome.

Regards

George

My thing is, I have my areas I shine in, science and math, Communication. I've never been able to resonate with people when it concerns things Like God and Faith. While I do have these beliefs, I've had many over the years relate shock to me, that someone who professes science and math could possess a belief in God. It's not been an easy path. I try my best to encourage free thinking and as many can testify, I will represent Freedom to choose to believe in a higher power rather than telling others what they should believe.

In this respect, I reveal my greatest failing. I can not Fully achieve enlightenment in either path. It's difficult, To believe in something that so many people find offputting or even contradictory to higher education. Yet I find myself Unable to give up either path.

If supersymmetry becomes a literal scientific fact. This revelation could prove the existence of God. But as it stands many people find it distasteful. To be gifted to understand science the way I do. to be able to see thought experiments play out in my mind. To conceive notions like time dilation, and the bose-einstein condensate, to realize quantum tunneling and superfluids.

But the world around me is convinced I cannot walk both paths. For me, It's always been a battle. Do I present myself as who I really am, Or Do I present myself as what I am good at.?

Many times, I avoid speaking about the spiritual and scientific in the same breath.

but, If it's true, That life could possibly exist in other dimensions. Why could not a life form exist beyond space and time? And if such a being did exist, Would this being not be a God? a being that could transcend space and time as easily as we go to the kitchen to microwave a burrito? Scientifically, God is not "Impossible" Maybe improbable. Yet so many will condemn a mind that is open to intelligent design.


It's not been an easy path, Being a Christian physicist.
 
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