Crashed UFOs?

dr wu

Noble
Possibly but the tarps we take for granted weren’t in use then. Randle made a point of sonething extraordinary covered by the mundane. I think I’m stuck on his description. But if the authors made a point of it I’d be wondering if it’s one of those damning details

What was in use then...? If blue is in the book then that came from the kids that were present since the adult witnesses are long dead, but kids have poor memories from that long ago and it could have been olive green, khaki , black, or whatever.

Interesting that all of these alleged ufo crashes happened in New Mexico,,,Roswell, Corona, San Antonio from the new book and also the Socorro sighting. Did the aliens like that area or something..? :D
 
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August

Metanoia
What was in use then...? If blue is in the book then that came from the kids that were present since the adult witnesses are long dead, but kids have poor memories from that long ago and it could have been olive green, khaki , black, or whatever.

Interesting that all of these alleged ufo crashes happened in New Mexico,,,Roswell, Corona, San Antonio from the new book and also the Socorro sighting. Did the aliens like that area or something..? :D

Don't forget the crashes at Aurora, Aztec and Kecksburgh.
 
I sort of drifted off when he went on to other cases but there was something that Randle mentioned that caught my attention. He was talking about the tarp covered craft. Specifically, the blue tarp. Common enough but not in 1945.
Dunno if he put that bit it in or the authors did.
Thanks for bringing this up. The "blue tarp" has been bugging me. It is definitely an anachronism. Even in my mid 20s, the tarps commonly for sale were still mostly canvas and dark green, grey, or maybe some other earth tone. Plastic ones were just becoming available then, and were usually horribly cheap and unreliable. This would have been just about 40 years after the alleged crash. The seemingly ubiquitous bright blue plastic tarps we see everywhere were not a thing until some years after, like in the 90s.

There were plenty of other anachronisms. This one could be down to Randle or someone else who came along after the original telling. So much of the story is just implausible that I still have trouble wrapping my head around Vallee having anything to do with it.

I suppose those youngsters might have actually seen some weird shit. Weird shit happens in the desert. It looks like if there is anything real in there, though, it has been severely polluted by subsequent events, legends, and wild tales. Randle does a good job of pointing many of them out.

My dad told me about a fighter jet that crashed near the town where he lived when he was a kid. This would have been around 1950, or five years after the story in question here. The military swooped in amazingly quickly, like within an hour, and set up roadblocks all around the farm where the plane came down. Everyone was evacuated immediately and no one was allowed in the area for a couple of days. He said he remembered a couple of farmers fuming and raising hell because they needed to tend their livestock, but the military ignored them. This was for a fairly ordinary airplane crash. Might have been some super secret prototype or something, but it was far from an alien space ship.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Thanks for bringing this up. The "blue tarp" has been bugging me. It is definitely an anachronism. Even in my mid 20s, the tarps commonly for sale were still mostly canvas and dark green, grey, or maybe some other earth tone. Plastic ones were just becoming available then, and were usually horribly cheap and unreliable. This would have been just about 40 years after the alleged crash. The seemingly ubiquitous bright blue plastic tarps we see everywhere were not a thing until some years after, like in the 90s.

There were plenty of other anachronisms. This one could be down to Randle or someone else who came along after the original telling. So much of the story is just implausible that I still have trouble wrapping my head around Vallee having anything to do with it.

I suppose those youngsters might have actually seen some weird shit. Weird shit happens in the desert. It looks like if there is anything real in there, though, it has been severely polluted by subsequent events, legends, and wild tales. Randle does a good job of pointing many of them out.

My dad told me about a fighter jet that crashed near the town where he lived when he was a kid. This would have been around 1950, or five years after the story in question here. The military swooped in amazingly quickly, like within an hour, and set up roadblocks all around the farm where the plane came down. Everyone was evacuated immediately and no one was allowed in the area for a couple of days. He said he remembered a couple of farmers fuming and raising hell because they needed to tend their livestock, but the military ignored them. This was for a fairly ordinary airplane crash. Might have been some super secret prototype or something, but it was far from an alien space ship.

Just so happens in the late 60s and early 70s when we were kids my brother and I used to crawl through old Army Navy surplus stores. Literal mountains of you name it. We ate K rations leftover from who knows when when we went camping. I still have and use some of the gear. I remember the tarps and what they looked like and they were heavy canvas, weird rubber and so forth. But the common weave type blue tarp you can go pick up in the store today was nowhere in evidence. So maybe this is much ado about nothing but you clearly see my point.

Tarpaulin - Wikipedia

And yes, Wright Patterson had a Foreign Technology Division and - off the top of my head - various retrieval units. Kecksburgh always sounded like a Soviet satellite or something to me. I just finished a book about Yuri Gagarin and the equipment they used at that time was pretty rough around the edges and one being that far off course wouldn't surprise me. UFO or not they were (and still are) keen on picking up whatever crashes pretty fast.
 
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dr wu

Noble
Don't forget the crashes at Aurora, Aztec and Kecksburgh.
Aztec is in the same state... ..Aurora is Texas....(Kecksburg is the outlier being in PA..but that was most likely a space capsule of some sort...maybe.)
Both Aztec and Auroroa are also considered hoaxes by many.
 
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