Cryptids of Africa

Discussion in 'Cryptozoology' started by 390, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. 390

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    honestly I think this could be its own subject as it is, since there are so many of them.
    Feel free to post a comment informing of your favorite African cryptic-
     
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  2. wwkirk

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    Frankly, I'm only familiar with Mokele-mbembe.
     
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  3. nivek

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    This is interesting although I haven't heard of it before...

    Does the Dingonek Exist?

    There’s a terrifying beast said to dwell in the creeks, rivers and lakes of western Africa. Of enormous size, between nine and 18 feet in length. Adorned with a long horn in the centre of its square head, with two large sabre-like canines jutting out from its mouth. Covered in thick scales, with a pointed, bony, dart-like appendage at the tip of its tail, said to contain deadly poison. Large and fearsome, extremely territorial and said to hunt crocodiles, hippos, monkeys and even fishermen. Anything, basically. It’s often known as the Jungle Walrus. And it’s like something from the darkest depths of science fiction…

    1907. Explorer John Jordan was in Kenya, staying with the Lumbwa, a local settlement. He was on the hunt for a mysterious creature the Lumbwa named the Dingonek. One day, whilst hunting along the shores of the river, a large group of Lumbwa emerged racing through the bush to find Jordan, claiming to have seen a large beast that dived the second it saw the group. They described it as a cross between a sea serpent, a leopard and a whale. Jordan thought they were mad and demanded to be taken to the scene.

    “Holy saints, but he was a sight – 14 or 15 feet long, head big as that of a lioness but shaped and marked like a leopard, two long white fangs sticking down straight out of his upper jaw, back as broad as a hippo, scaled like an armadillo… he was a hideous old haunter of a nightmare… that made you want an aeroplane to feel safe of him… blast that blighter’s fangs, but they looked enough to go clean through a man,” Jordan said.

    He also said that it had reptilian claws that could carry the beast ashore and kill a man with ease. Frightened, he shot the beast behind one of its ears. The beast sprang up from the water, standing straight up on its tail. Jordan and the Lumbwa didn’t think twice and ran like hell. Jordan was adamant that no known creature should have survived that shot.

    This story of Jordan’s encounter was first told in a book written by Edgar Bronson in 1910, a man famed for titillating his audience with adventuresome tales. But tribes around that area before and since have stories of this creature. And continue to tell tales of it. Many explorers since, into the late 20th century, claim to have seen it. And then there’s the painting to consider. In a nearby cave, there’s an ancient painting of a creature that looks remarkably like the Dingonek. All these encounters and coincidences, plus the painting, have led many to believe this creature is real.

    As unlikely as it sounds, I believe there may be a chance that a mysterious creature of some kind or another exists in the waters of Africa…

    So I’ll give this creature a 70 on my patented Cryptid-o-Meter, putting it third in the list with the Lake Worth Monster still bottom and the Beast of Exmoor still holding top spot.

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  4. humanoidlord

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    been a while since i last heard from you, how are the investigations going?
     
  5. 390

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    Thanks for asking! Been very busy, but I’m not gone for good, yet
     
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  6. Yoshi

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    Just found this on my harddrive. Might be interesting.

    It's a scene from the BBC documentary "Congo, Spirits of the Forest", where they talk about Mokele-Mbembe.




    Wiki entry:
     
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  7. 1963

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    Mokele Mbembe has always had a place in my heart as pertaining to African Cryptids ... after all it is the most famous I suspect, and even though I did as a kid believe in the possibility of the Loch Ness Monster, that possibility quickly dribbled away in my more ... let's say 'critical thinking' when old enough to understand that 'seemingly respectable adults do exaggerate and lie"! lol. ... but because of the of the vastness and inaccessibility of the Congo basin, the possibility of there being a population of secretive surviving dinosaurs hidden away from western-eyes, the prospect seemed to be a much easier pill to swallow than there being such an amazingly covert 'Monster' thriving in a comparatively small area being mega successful at evading such intense scrutiny over many decades.



    .... still can't put my hand on heart and declare that "I Do Believe!" ... but the crypto-romanticist in me [born out of my love for the Ivan T Sandersons of the world] wishes this expedition all the luck in the world. :heart4:

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  8. michael59

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    Not much talk about the animal in plural form. They do state two different types, one with a frill so if they are real, there is more than one. They don't appear to be as large as the ones in Jurassic Park, but for the most part, animals that evolve have gotten smaller.

    It could very well be that they stay in the same location because they need a specific plant to survive and it only grows in that area?

    It is possible. :D
     
  9. 1963

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    Hi Michael, Yes it is just 'imaginable' [but unlikely imo]... and yes you are right about animals getting smaller over time, because the prehistoric crocodiles for instance was known to have been about twice the size of their modern day descendants. ... And anyway, I would think that stumbling across a thirty foot Mokele in a jungle clearing would be big enough to make me walk backward pretty sharpish all the same. :laugh8:

    Cheers Michael.
     
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  10. 1963

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    This is from the Crypto Hunter Bill Gibbons [the guy from above who is planning to film Mokele Mbembe next year] ... and you can make of it what you will... for example, i've seen several of the 'giant snake' pictures used in the film before and were debunked as being fakes. But I suspect that Bill himself will already be aware of and only used them as demonstrations. ... But also included was a picture that I remembered well from 40 years ago on an old favourite T.V programme 'Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World' , and that was of a giant snake that was witnessed and photographed by Remy Van Lierd in 1959 when taking a flight over the Congo. It is a striking photograph that made such an impression on me because of the apparent prestige of the witness, ... the photographer 'Remy Van Lierd' was actually a WW2 hero .. a Belgian fighter ace and squadron leader Remy Van Lierd rose to the rank of Colonel in the British Royal Air Force, and received the Distinguished Flying Cross medal of valour, after shooting down six enemy aircraft and forty four V-1 Flying Bombs. After the war he was put in command of the Kamina Air Base, in the Katanga region of what was then The Belgian Congo. ... And to me then sounded above reproach. ...But even then, I always had it in the back of my mind that ... if such a thing as 'a fifty foot snake' was real, then surely it must have been a rare freak of nature [such as Robert Wadlow] because if there were a thriving population of gigantic snakes roaming these regions , then why aren't there natural history museums full of their skeletons for all to see?

    ... and even the always sceptical Arthur C Clarke didn't seem to be doubting when he announced that there had been professional analysis of the photo that confirmed a giant snake!
    ... incidentally, while looking for the clip above, I chanced upon this last YT video from 2016, that purports to be "expert analysis" of the picture by a site going by the name of "The Wild Nature'' that claims that although Van Lierd said that he'd flown to within thirty foot of the beast , he had vastly underestimated the size of the snake, and in fact by means of shadows from a couple of Termite nests ... it was actually 195ft long! ....


    ....Now, i've never claimed to be an 'expert in video analysis' [because i'm not] ... but I have to be honest here and tell you that "this guy is a total idiot!" ... and his killer incontestable methods made me chuckle quite a bit. :p ... But his peculiar logic of using the 2D shadows to determine the size of the alleged monster ... gave rise to another doubt in my mind,... inasmuch as if all of the other objects on the photo that were raised sufficiently from the ground was casting dark shadows ... then why can't I make out any real shadowing from such an enormous snake's body? [unless of course my eyes are deceiving me and it is lying flat on the ground and not arched up as I always thought?]

    ... anyway, as I said, I always found this picture and claim to be worthy of a real head scratch, and even after all of these years, I still cannot detect a chink in Mr Van Lierd's character, and am not willing to wager on it, but am privately inclined to believe that 'Old Remy' miraculously managed to chance upon one of nature's true anomalies... a vastly oversized snake!
    What do you guys think.... is it real? :nerdy:

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    Cheers.
     

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