Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

[nivek]

Can people spread coronavirus after they recover?

The new study, published in the journal JAMA on Thursday (Feb. 27), followed four medical professionals ages 30 to 36 years old who developed COVID-19 (the disease caused by the new coronavirus) and were treated at Wuhan University's Zhongnan Hospital in China between Jan. 1 and Feb. 15. All of the individuals recovered, and only one was hospitalized during the illness. The patients were treated with oseltamivir, better known under the brand name of Tamiflu, an antiviral drug.

The patients were considered recovered after their symptoms resolved and after they tested negative for COVID-19 twice (on two consecutive days). After recovery, the patients were asked to quarantine themselves at home for five days. They continued to undergo throat swabs for the coronavirus after five days for up to 13 days post-recovery.

The results showed that every test between Day 5 and Day 13 was positive for the virus.

"These findings suggest that at least a proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers," the researchers wrote.

The findings come as Japan reported its first case of an individual who recovered from coronavirus and then became ill with the disease for a second time, according to Reuters. Given the new results on post-coronavirus persistence from China, it's not clear what happened with the Japanese patient, Johnson said. One possibility is that she caught a new version of the virus from another person; another possibility is that her own system did not fight off the virus completely and as it began to replicate inside her lungs again, she experienced a resurgence of symptoms.

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[Shadowprophet]

Can people spread coronavirus after they recover?

The new study, published in the journal JAMA on Thursday (Feb. 27), followed four medical professionals ages 30 to 36 years old who developed COVID-19 (the disease caused by the new coronavirus) and were treated at Wuhan University's Zhongnan Hospital in China between Jan. 1 and Feb. 15. All of the individuals recovered, and only one was hospitalized during the illness. The patients were treated with oseltamivir, better known under the brand name of Tamiflu, an antiviral drug.

The patients were considered recovered after their symptoms resolved and after they tested negative for COVID-19 twice (on two consecutive days). After recovery, the patients were asked to quarantine themselves at home for five days. They continued to undergo throat swabs for the coronavirus after five days for up to 13 days post-recovery.

The results showed that every test between Day 5 and Day 13 was positive for the virus.

"These findings suggest that at least a proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers," the researchers wrote.

The findings come as Japan reported its first case of an individual who recovered from coronavirus and then became ill with the disease for a second time, according to Reuters. Given the new results on post-coronavirus persistence from China, it's not clear what happened with the Japanese patient, Johnson said. One possibility is that she caught a new version of the virus from another person; another possibility is that her own system did not fight off the virus completely and as it began to replicate inside her lungs again, she experienced a resurgence of symptoms.

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Nightmare situation, So someone has officially caught it, gotten better then replaced.

 

[Toroid]

Can people spread coronavirus after they recover?

The new study, published in the journal JAMA on Thursday (Feb. 27), followed four medical professionals ages 30 to 36 years old who developed COVID-19 (the disease caused by the new coronavirus) and were treated at Wuhan University's Zhongnan Hospital in China between Jan. 1 and Feb. 15. All of the individuals recovered, and only one was hospitalized during the illness. The patients were treated with oseltamivir, better known under the brand name of Tamiflu, an antiviral drug.

The patients were considered recovered after their symptoms resolved and after they tested negative for COVID-19 twice (on two consecutive days). After recovery, the patients were asked to quarantine themselves at home for five days. They continued to undergo throat swabs for the coronavirus after five days for up to 13 days post-recovery.

The results showed that every test between Day 5 and Day 13 was positive for the virus.

"These findings suggest that at least a proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers," the researchers wrote.

The findings come as Japan reported its first case of an individual who recovered from coronavirus and then became ill with the disease for a second time, according to Reuters. Given the new results on post-coronavirus persistence from China, it's not clear what happened with the Japanese patient, Johnson said. One possibility is that she caught a new version of the virus from another person; another possibility is that her own system did not fight off the virus completely and as it began to replicate inside her lungs again, she experienced a resurgence of symptoms.

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Here's some interesting anagrams for oseltamivir/tamiflu: Vital Isomer & Serial/Israel Vomit.

 

[Sheltie]

OK, so what I was saying was now vindicated. Mortality is 3% at worst, but more likely lower. Not even close to SARS 10% or MERS 30%.

BUY THE RUMOR, SELL THE FACT
Stock markets are falling like crazy because of coronavirus fears. Now is good time to buy stocks that were strong performers before the epidemics. Like tech and financials.

I agree. It seems like orchestrated mass hysteria.

 

[AlienView]

I agree. It seems like orchestrated mass hysteria.

Exactly what I've been thinking.

But what's the agenda? - Cause a down turn in the economy? - which appears to be happening.

For whose benefit?

Trump is probably unbeatable in the coming election - unless the economy were to go South.

But it probably would be a crazy conspiracy to suggest that
media mogul multi billionaire Michael Bloomberg
is manipulating the news so he could beat Trump in the coming election - Right???

 

[Sheltie]

Joe Granville: He Fooled You, But I Think He Got Away With It

There have been several examples through the years of people who have intentionally crashed the market for various reasons.

 

[Dejan Corovic]

There is no specific reason. Media will spontaneously welcome anything that increases advertising spend. Than they'll keep coming with wind-up angles until panic naturally dies down. It's cyclical thing, like phases of Moon.

And, any low threat situation suits politicians as well. They can over-hype marginal threat and present themselves as caring heroes. Good example was e-cigarette ban. E-cigs are more than 90% less harmful than real tobacco, but any politician stood up to ban them, so he/she can show he's protector of the voters.

 

[Sheltie]

In 1976 there was a fear that the swine flu epidemic would sweep across the US, perhaps rivaling the flu epidemic of 1918-1919. Here is a 1976 excerpt from the NY Times:

"The sorry debacle of the swine flu vaccine program provides a fitting end point to the misunderstandings and misconceptions that have marked Government approaches to health care during the last eight years, when Washington power has been shared between a Republican White House and a Democratic Congress.

Last February and March, on the flimsiest of evidence, President Ford and the Congress were panicked into believing that the country stood at the threshold of a killer flu epidemic, one that might claim millions of lives as did the much‐cited influenza pandemic of 1918‐1919.

Today, there is no sign whatsoever of anything approaching a swine flu epidemic; but there is growing apprehension that the millions of dollars of Federal money spent and the vast vaccination program pushed with all of Washington's energies may have resulted in the death of some persons and sickened many more. In short, there seem to have been significant costs without any visible benefits."

"... Influenza epidemiologists now point out that there is evidence to support the scare propaganda of last spring predicting a return of the 1918‐1919 catastrophe, and tend to blame the news media's taste for sensation as the main villain."

 

[Dejan Corovic]

But there are good things coming out of this coronavirus panic.

US gov. dumped $10M into vaccine research and new coronavirus vaccine was developed in under 3 months. That's a record. Say 20 years ago it would take 2 years to develop new vaccine. This progress in a speed of vaccine development makes us safer from any future epidemics to yet unknown virus. It's only sad that scientist get money to do research when there is some panic going on.

Couple of more of these epidemics and we'll be able to produce a vaccine in under a month. Than mankind as whole will be pretty safe from any virus.

 

[nivek]

Exactly what I've been thinking.

But what's the agenda? - Cause a down turn in the economy? - which appears to be happening.

For whose benefit?

I doubt the media is intentionally orchestrating any sort of mass hysteria over the coronavirus, they are always using sensationalist tactics with any and all subjects they report on....

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[Standingstones]

You can almost predict that countries such as China are not giving the world the true picture of what is going on. I go by the photos that are released in various countries. When you see lack of crowds and people are not shopping you know that the situation is grim. Look for the stories of lack of food and living products. Things are going to get a lot worse unless someone comes up with a vaccine PDQ.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I had a panic attack yesterday over this, Not like a fake oh I was concerned,

No, I had a full-blown could not breath, Chest hurting thought I was gonna have a heart attack, panic attack over this coronavirus stuff. It was during the presidential briefing when he said, People are going to catch it, it's going to spread to communities. And therefore there are travel restrictions, The Added, First U.S Death related to the Coronavirus, didn't help matters any.

I'm not being an alarmist here, I am alarmed, I had a legit panic attack over this stuff. That's the State of Sp Right now. Pretending That I didn't have a panic attack doesn't really reflect the reality that a lot of people are concerned and care about this.. It's fine to act tough. to want to ease other's minds, But, Some people are beginning to freak out over this.

This means, without a doubt, This is becoming a matter of public fear.

 

[Toroid]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDKCjaWfA

 

[Toroid]

Louvre Museum Closes Amid New Coronavirus Warnings In France

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjfi6j-0r7M

 

[Shadowprophet]

Fear On the Rise As Coronovrisues Continues To Spread, And Second U.S Death of Covid-19

Fears of an outbreak in Washington deepen after a second patient in the state died from coronavirus. The patient was a man in his 70s who was treated in the same facility where the first patient died a day earlier.

Twenty-three new cases of Covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, were reported in the US over the weekend, bringing the total to 88 cases. The first two Covid-19 deaths on US soil prompted Washington State to declare a state of emergency. New cases were reported in US states from coast to coast, in Washington, California, Oregon, Illinois, Florida, New York and Rhode Island.





On A Side note, I really have been experiencing panic attacks. I don't know how much of it is related to the Outbreak.
I'm around, Mostly Reading, I don't speak a lot anymore. I've become very withdrawn. I'm a psychological trainwreck right now.

 

[Sheltie]

My gut is telling me this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Yes, it is a serious situation and, yes, we weren't prepared for it, but I agree with the critics -- the coronavirus in many ways is not even as bad as the regular flu. Spring is just 3 weeks away and they're working feverishly to find effective treatments.

When it comes to health issues I myself tend to be very neurotic. Sometimes I make Woody Allen seem like a rational rock of stability. If I'm not worried about this then no one should be.

 

[Shadowprophet]

My gut is telling me this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. Yes, it is a serious situation and, yes, we weren't prepared for it, but I agree with the critics -- the coronavirus in many ways is not even as bad as the regular flu. Spring is just 3 weeks away and they're working feverishly to find effective treatments.

When it comes to health issues I myself tend to be very neurotic. Sometimes I make Woody Allen seem like a rational rock of stability. If I'm not worried about this then no one should be.

No, I get it, People are panicking and there are other diseases out there killing people on the same or a greater scale,
I don't know what it is, My Nerves have just devolved to a point that I'm having panic attacks. This Outbreak doesn't help that any, But whatever the real problem is, It's deeper than this Coronavirus.

 

[Sheltie]

I was a bundle of nerves last week because of the stock market. The Dow was down 12.4% in one week. Yikes!

I saw some Amazon charges on my credit card and jumped on my GF for overspending without fully investigating. It turns out the charges were not new; they were duplicate charges that dropped off. I think we're all a little anxious these days...

 

[Shadowprophet]

Coronavirus Kills 4 More In Washington State, Bringing Total To 6 |



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[coubob]

Tryin not to panic, telling myself its kinda like when the flu started 100 years ago, but them weren`t good times either so.. I`m just worried for my wife and her weak immune system and copd and all, hate to think, but i`ve come close to loosing her 3 times in the last couple of years due to it all already, now this. I got to stay calm for her sake, even though she won`t say. i know shes scared more than ever.