Dr. Hal Puthoff's 8 February 2020 talk

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

    Dr. Hal Puthoff's 8 February 2020 talk - some notes
    By Keith Basterfield

    Source: Team - EarthTech

    Dr. Hal Puthoff gave a talk on 8 February 2020 at an event held in Berkley Springs, West Virgina, in the USA. The talk was titled "DOD Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: The Back Story, The Forward Story." Puthoff gave a similar titled talk, "The DoD's UAP Program: The Back Story, The Forward Story" at the Society for Scientific Exploration/International Remote Viewing Association joint conference, held in Las Vegas, Nevada, on 8 June 2018.

    I have listened to an audio copy of his 2020 speech, supplied by an anonymous attendee to whom I extend my thanks, and compared it with a transcript of the 2018 talk. I wanted to see what new material had entered the 2020 speech. The following are the new points which I picked out (there may be more):

    * Previously in the 2018 talk, Puthoff stated that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) had commenced in June 2007. However, in the 2020 speech he stated that AATIP commenced in June 2008. This fits better with the known date for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) of September 2008.

    * He provided a date for the "Thread-3" document from the Soviet Union which discussed UAP in that country. The date Puthoff gave for this document was 1991.

    * Puthoff provided some details of the now revealed US Navy pilot ecnounters from 2014/2015.

    * When discussing the broad area announcement which had been made, for bidders for the AAWSAP contract, Puthoff stated this announcement was made in 2008. In the 2018 talk he had given this date as 2007. Since I discovered a copy of this document on the Internet some time ago, we have known the date of the announcement was indeed 2008.

    * The CRADA with the US Army was mentioned in passing.

    * New books authored by members of TTSA were discussed.

    * The History Channel documentary series "Unidentified" was mentioned.

    * Puthoff discussed the fact that the US Navy had announced that the three released videos were of UAP.

    * The new US Navy guidelines for reporting UAP was reported upon.

    * The fact that there had been briefings of Congress on the subject of UAP was stated.

    Following the talk, there was an opportunity for questions. I have made a few notes on each question and Puthoff's answers. Please note that the sound quality of the voices of individuals asking questions was not the best, and some errors in my hearing may have occurred.

    Q1 - How does TTSA consider the viewpoints held by others out there?

    A1 - We are following the data. When I hear of the claims of others about e.g. the secret space program, I have no evidence. Put it into the gray basket. We don't even say that UAP are "spaceships."

    Q2 - How soon will warp drive be available for civilian use?

    A2 - There are people working on the theoretical physics. At the moment we can't see a path forward. Perhaps not for a century.

    Q3 - Free energy technology, any access to it?

    A3 - Our laboratory ran a maverick inventor program. Examined many devices. No positive evidence in the end.

    Q4 - Richard Doty says he worked for you. Any comment?

    A4 - He did. There was a period where we were investigating all aspects of the phenomenon. Richard Doty was a contractor for us, as were many other people. Some of his data could be verified, some could not. I happened to like him as an individual.

    Q5 - Do you think human science is on a trajectory to understand the phenomenon?

    A5 - Large amount of information in the 38 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents. Some is sensitive. It is reasonable to think that at some point there will be a fusion that will be useful. Predictions usually fall short. In 20 years we will have some new technologies.

    Q6 - Can you comment on your work with Ingo Swann and remote viewing?

    A6 - Puthoff provided a lengthy answer describing this work.

    Q7 - Can you comment on Dr. Eric Davis and Ultraterrestrials?

    A7 - I wrote a paper about ultraterrestrials - following the data. I wrote down all the options. Wrote the paper and circulated it to my colleagues - it was a think piece.

    Q8 - One of the characterstics of UAPs talked about by TTSA was transmedium travel. Air/space/water. What about traversing solid matter? Any comment?

    A8 - One thing from our Space Time Metric discussions - it could be predicted from the theory that things may traverse solid matter.

    Q9 - Remote viewing - answering questions?

    A9- Implies interest in all areas. Got some answers to UAP through remote viewing, e.g. Pat Price located four UAP bases on Earth.

    Q10 - Is TTSA pursuing consciousness esearch?

    A10 - Right now, TTSA is not pursuing consciousness research, but is studying UAP.

    Q11 - The data you are following - does it indicate more than one UAP type? Alien?

    A11 - Scattering of options - all over the map. We have had a sphere with a cube inside; tic-tac shapes; triangles. Lots of different structures.

    Q12 - Mg-Bi material. Have you determined where it came from? Its use?

    A12 - It's complicated. Various theories out on the Internet. We don't yet really know anything from it. Ten years ago examined a piece from Linda Moulton Howe. Couldn't make anything of it. Still absolutely not known. No answers yet.

    Q13 - Ingo Swann, EV dark side of the Moon. Any comment?

    A13 - "Guys" came to us with coordinates. Asked for a remote viewing of these. Gave it to them. Dsecription matched things on the Moon. Seemed they already knew the answers. They were testing us.

    Q14 - Your talk mentioned the problems of people working in silos. Thoughts on how the silo problem might be solved?

    A14 - In AATIP tried through the 38 DIRDs to get range of views. Trying to get people to talk to each other.

    Q15 - We hear Navy views but what about USAF?

    A15 - Most previous public programs were conducted by the USAF.

    Q16 - Did Project Blue Book continue?

    A16 - PBB did not, other programs did.

    Q17 - Re AATIP current status - the Pentagon statements vary. Can you clarify?

    A17 - Conflicting messages are coming out of the Pentagon, e.g. that Luis Elizondo didn't work for AATIP. Not right. TTSA trying to help clarify things behind the scenes. Things will get clarified in time.

    Q18 - The head of Skunk works at Lockheed Martin made some statements, e.g. "Now have technology to travel to the stars." Can you comment?

    A18 - Ben Rich has been asked about this. We don't know precisely what he meant by those statements. Why he said those.

    Q19 - Is the Soviet Union concerned about UAP?

    A19 - UFOs have come over US nuclear silos and turned them off. Have come over Soviet Union and switched them on.

    Q20 - Any insight into Internet discussions aboue Antarctica?

    A20 - Don't have any opinion. Seen no evidence.

    Q21- Any comment about the Wilson document?

    A21 - Wilson was interviewed by my colleague Eric Davis. Discusses potentially ongoing programs.

    Q22 - You were interviewed by George Knapp - mention of a document leaked about crash retrievals. Where do I look for that document?

    A22 - It's out there somewhere on the Internet - don't know exactly where.

    Q23 - When Richard Doty was hired, was that for AATIP?

    A23 - No, on another program before AATIP.

    Q24 - Do you give any credence to [book titled mentioned] ET communications as part of secret programs?

    A24 - I see no evidence.

    Q25 - Do you think someone out there could have reverse engineered UFOs?

    A25 - It's an option. It's possible. I brought up the idea in a paper.

    Q26 - There was a story that Nixon left a letter in a time capsule about UFOs. A secret document?

    A26 - I don't know if that story is legitimate.

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  2. Lam

    Lam Adept

    This is the first confirmation that davis did talk to wilson
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  3. Spaceman spiff

    Spaceman spiff Honorable

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  4. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Administrator

    I'm not entirely convinced that the conversation between Dr. Davis and Admiral Wilson happened. That memo may be a "soft leak" pertaining to the substance of the story...a means of getting the truth out in a veiled manner.

    But I am convinced that Dr. Mitchell did speak with (then) Vice Admiral Wilson about an AAV special access program at a private defense contractor, and that Wilson was barred from being read in on it. Because we have this 2008 testimony from Dr. Edgar Mitchell when he appeared on the Larry King Show - and to the best of my knowledge Dr. Mitchell's integrity and heroism are unassailable - and in this clip he describes exactly the scenario that we find described in the alleged Core Secrets memo (I've time-stamped this clip to begin at the pertinent moment):

    If anyone's aware of a single example where Dr. Mitchell misspoke or made a demonstrably false statement, then I'd like to hear about it, because I'm unaware of any such thing. I've listened very carefully to every interview I could find with Dr. Mitchell, and I enjoyed the privilege of some fascinating conversations with him on this subject back when he had his own online chat forum, and in my estimation Dr. Mitchell was a brilliant and erudite scientist who chose his words with supreme judiciousness...so in my view it's unthinkable that he would've falsely attributed a statement of this import to man of Admiral Wilson's standing.

    Wilson found that special access program, and he was rebuked when he tried to learn more about it. I'd bet my life on that, because Dr. Mitchell was the antithesis of a liar.
  5. Spaceman spiff

    Spaceman spiff Honorable

    Who knows. IF Wilson is the one lying or deflecting here, maybe we get lucky and Wilsons conscience comes to him and he eventually confesses on his deathbed or leaves a note or a will or something.

    Not holding my breath tough. Even if something like this happened, lot of men dont have the guts or want themselves or their families to be part of the potential controversy or consequences and thus take their secrets to the grave.

    It could be that the whole thing is mostly disinformation tough and someone took some parts of things that happened, made up the rest, mixed it up and put it out there. Even in that case the question remains who did it and why?
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