Flu Epidemic Worldwide - Should you get a Flu Shot?

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by AlienView, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. AlienView

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    They say it is a worsening epidemic and many people are dying - So unless you have some kind of really
    good reason, it would seem logical to risk the side effects and take the shot.

    BUT:

    In a year where the Flu has already proven to be particularly bad and has already killed many
    - They are saying the Flu shot this year [2017-18] is not very effective.

    First I heard it was only 10% effective but you should get it anyway - That sounded like a joke - 10% effective is not effective!

    But purveyors of modern medicine will not be daunted - So then it became 30% effective [Latest Canada reports 10-20% effective], but you should get it anyway they say becuase it will produce a less serious disease scenario should you catch it.

    Really? can they prove this? What evidence do they have?

    I'm not against vaccines and am willing to take the minimal risk of side effects - But when drug companies are pushing something and saying it is not very effective, I see a red flag.

    If a 'not very effective' vaccine is injected into someones body - I keep thinking - could we be actually worsening both the chances of catching the disease - And in fact worsening the effects?

    To me a vaccine should work and be most often effetive - Or it is defective - What happens when you are injected with a defective vacine?

    I'd appreciate your opinions people, especially if based upon scientific evidence.
     
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  2. August

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    I'm not getting one as the last one never worked ( it was a total dud ) and everyone got the flu. Waste of time and money. Stupid Government and the money grubbing pharmaceutical companies out for their quick buck. Scientific evidence was 18 people died from the flu when the flu vaccine failed. Most of the ones that died were in nursing homes.
     
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  3. CasualBystander

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    People bitch about overpopulation then demand we get a flu shot.


    C'mon, make up your mind.
     
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  4. August

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    That's the oddity of it isn't it . Keeping everyone alive at all costs when there are some who want the population cut back to 500 million.
     
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  5. nivek

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    Survival of the fittest...

    Sooner or later nature might catch mankind off guard and thin the herds...
     
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  6. August

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    Space virus , that would be interesting.
     
  7. AlienView

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    Seriously though, there are ways to boost your immune system naturally.

    Vitamins C, D, zinc, and the herb Echinacea plus other herbs and supplements.
    - for the most part these natural immune boosters do not have side effects.

    Of course natural supplements and vitamins put little profit into the hands of big pharma.

    But what I keep wondering is about this current not so effective vaccine
    - Could it be worse than nothing?
    - 'They' say it is better than nothing - Can we believe them?
     
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  8. August

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    I never have the flu shot. It only is supposed to protect you against the worst flu strains it doesn't stop you getting sick.
     
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  9. CasualBystander

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    I rather boost my immune system unnaturally.

    I'm really with the "thin the herd" crowd and believe we should develop a virus that only kills dumb people.
     
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  10. nivek

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    I have no doubts there are deadly viruses various countries have developed already, and i also have little doubt nature will at some point develop one in the future...The herd will get thinned one way or another most likely...

    It's usually the dumb ones who die off first, of course a few smart ones will die off too but they probably have weak immune systems...Natural selection, if the dumb survive over the smart then the species wouldn't last long...
     
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  11. August

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    That's an intriguing thought. A planet of dummies.
     
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  12. 3FEL9

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  13. AlienView

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    Welcome to Planet Earth !
     
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  14. August

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    The interstellar prison for Galactic miscreants and non do wells.
     
  15. AlienView

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    Good point - And if Man keeps trying to develop vaccines to block all disease, and obviously is failing,
    and like with antibiotics, are they actually contributing to the development of the 'superbug' that
    wipes out all Human life?

    And that's not sci-fi, the're already talking about superbugs that are resisting all known antibiotics
    - Viruses like this years flu might already be the beginning of the end, and that's why the vaccines
    are no longer very effective.

    Natural immune stimulants. like I mentioned before,
    might still be the best alternative.
     
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  16. August

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    They say here that Antibiotics are not working anymore .
     
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  17. CasualBystander

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  18. Caeldeth

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    I had the swine flu a few years back and I almost died due to brain swelling. Ever since I had that flu I have not caught it since. I'm not to worried about it.
     
  19. 3FEL9

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    No it aint. The majority are
     
  20. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    I assume you are pointing at bad diets.

    As most people know I am a carnivore and only use vegetables as decoration (I do eat fruit because I grew up on a fruit farm).

    But if this is your point you are right.

    You are what you eat and if you eat bullshit...
     
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