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  1. Dejan Corovic

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    but the recoil they have, I've seen some video on YT, gun almost hits you on a head after it gets fired.

    I wander how many bullets one needs to stop the charging bear, because its somewhat scary that one has only 5 bullets and that it takes good 15 sec. to reload.

    But I wouldn't go hiking on Appalachian trail without one :)

    @pigfarmer I would be most interested to hear how it feels when shooting, once you get it :)
     
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  2. pigfarmer

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    So I did a little noodling around to try and find a basis of comparison. Very, very crude estimates but Moses !!! that thing is stepping out ! In the video even the professional factory expert can barely control it. Don't know how useful it would be in an emergency if you can't control it

    9mm Parabellum 115 gr bullet @ 1032 fps= 272 ft-lbs muzzle energy

    .44 Remington Magnum 240gr bullet @ 1522 fps = 1234 ft-lbs muzzle energy

    .45 Winchester Magnum 260gr bullet @ 1339 fps = 1035 ft-lbs muzzle energy

    .454 Casull 240 gr bullet @ 1923 fps = 1970 ft-lbs muzzle energy

    12 gauge 2 3/4 slug 383 gr slug @ 1500 fps = 1913 ft-lbs muzzle energy


    THAT MONSTROSITY:

    .500 S & W 275 gr bullet @ 2111 fps = 2721 ft-lbs muzzle energy
     
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  3. pigfarmer

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    the Freedom Arms .454 Casull is a powerhouse and was very popular as a backup weapon in bear country. I read somewhere that the first year's worth of production went to Alaska. I guess so, you're standing in a stream fishing and then uh-oh, Yogi's looking to have a pic-in-nic. But here's a common theme regarding that:

    .454 Casulls: Too Much Power, Too Little Real-World Utility - Gun Tests | The Consumer Resource for the Serious Shooter

    454 Casulls: Too Much Power, Too Little Real-World Utility
    Tauruss Raging Bull, $820, makes the .454 Casull bearable. Guns from Freedom Arms and Ruger exact a toll on the hunter as well as the hunted. If you need this much power, buy a rifle.

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    Now down to brass tacks. My thing is 1911 automatics and I have a couple of odd variants, including a LAR Grizzly Win Mag in .45 Winchester Magnum. It's an oddball and they don't make them anymore. I've put a few thousand rounds through this thing with 240 - 300 grain bullets and let me tell you, it's a serious handful. You need a big enough hand to begin with just to grab hold of it - hanging on to the damned thing is a challenge. But, I've shot combat matches with it just for a hoot and it's an attention getter for sure. It's retired and I don't shoot it anymore, if something breaks there are no replacements. The tag line from the original brochure (which I still have around here somewhere) is "When a Grizzly Win Mag Roars EVERYTHING Listens" and man, that's truth in advertising !

    That's a 6" S&W Model 629 - a stainless steel version of Dirty Harry's Model 29 - next to it as a size comparison and that's my handloading 'mule' for all sorts of ideas. It's much more manageable but damn, it is a serious blaster. The .500 S & W is on the X frame, one size larger they came up with just for that new cartridge. I wouldn't shoot something like that even if someone offered. I think it's just a **** extension for most. :)
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  5. Dejan Corovic

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    Yeah, I wouldn't want to carry the whole rifle thing just to go for a walk into the mountains. That S&W 500 is the right size for the job. Criticism of .454 Casulls is justified because it just had put too much weight into the barrel.

    But I wander how practical is S&W 500 would be in the situation you meet bear or mountain lion, because I can't see one firing 5 bullets in a quick succession with that thing. I mean, how long would it take you to recover the aim after the first shot. Not to mention recovering from the pain in the arm's wrist. Actually I would like to see somebody firing 5 all 5 bullets from that thing and tell me how his arm and shoulder feel after that.

    I would love to have all sorts of guns and rifles, but here in UK there was that middle-aged idiot who entered a kindergarten and massacred 10 children and teachers. So, long story short, handguns are now banned in UK. Paradoxically it worked, there were no more massacres because London drug dealers are not interested in killing children, only in killing each other, although most of them are kids. So I can only have plastic BB air guns that feel and sound plasticy.
     
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  6. Rick Hunter

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    Basically, an energetic .45-70 in handgun form.
     
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    Energetic indeed. You go first :shock:
     
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    My wife and I went to one of the Gettysburg re-enactments a few years back. The sight was not in the battlefield but about two miles away on private property. The Union and Confederates each had ten field cannons a piece firing off charges. They had grandstands for the visitors to sit. My guts were shaking and the ground was rumbling as these cannons fired off.

    For a reference, there were approximately two hundred total cannons at the real Gettysburg battle of Picketts Charge. Ten times as many and they were firing live rounds, cannon ball and canister/grapeshot. These were like giant shotgun shells. Many soldiers could not be identified after being hit with grapeshot rounds.

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  9. pigfarmer

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    Been a while but I went there to see the Trostle farm because that's where the 150th New York infantry regiment deployed as it got to the battle at the end of the second day to retrieve abandoned union artillery. They fought the next day on the other side, on Culp's Hill. The regiment was raised in the county I live in and there are a lot of roads, etc named after the men who served in it. There is at least one sadly overlooked statue.

    That Confederate gun line extended the length of the battlefield where Pickett's Charge was confined to one end near the Bliss Farm. I've walked that and am very glad nobody was shooting at me - that's hard core. But on the Union side behind the Trostle farm next to Little Round Top there was a corresponding Union gun line manned by a former sea captain that I have repeatedly heard described as 'the famously profane Freeman McGilvery.'

    Now, that sounds like quite a character if we're still talking about his potty mouth all these years later. When I get my time machine perfected he'd be one I'd like to go back and take a look at for myself. I have an excellent command of profanity and can draw it like a sword - I'd like to see a professional in action :)
     
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    I have something like that in mind when the time comes for my mother-in-law. Not taking any chances

     
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    This guy wearing underwear as a mask...b0033

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