Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

[goblin]

Today's epic saga makes about as much sense as any other day's tale of woe and oppression. Which is to say none at all. I always end up wondering how much money he actually takes in with these constant charmless, cynical, extremely improbable stories. Does he even get enough to make it worth the feeble effort he puts into them? Sure, there are way too many stupid people out there who send money to all manner of crooks, but how many people even read that shit?

There is plenty of evidence that he once tricked some people into sending him astounding amounts of money, but that was years ago when his con was less blatant and there weren't all these places to get real information about him with extreme ease. His reputation is in the toilet, the forum is now a joke, and his audience has to be all but gone. Like pretty much everything about this grifter, it just doesn't add up.

You've probably seen people speculate the begging is compulsive behavior for Gene. I am no doctor but it seems possible when you really look at it. He would make a great case study for someone, whatever the major malfunction is there.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

You've probably seen people speculate the begging is compulsive behavior for Gene. I am no doctor but it seems possible when you really look at it. He would make a great case study for someone, whatever the major malfunction is there.

I think the main pathology here are his absolute unwillingness to do any real work, the inability to see that asking for money fraudulently is morally wrong (not just in his own behaviour but in his continued denials about the BIL's criminality) and the ease with which he lies and continues to lie even when his dishonesty has been proven.

It seems he is the kind of person who has never worked a real job and has likely been grifting and parasitising other people all his life. Scamming people is not something any ordinary person would ever consider (even in difficult circumstances) -

Gene scams and lies as easily as a normal person breathes.

I don't think he knows anything else and therefore has no concept of how much blood and sweat it takes to actually make money for the average person. He seems to have a core belief that all money is easy money and he deserves to get it.

I think one of the things that aggravated people the most about his begging was that Gene was spending his money on living the high life instead of on essentials the essentials he was actually begging for - driving a new car, living in a luxury apartment, buying the latest Apple tech. - all while claiming he couldn't pay rent or buy food.

This is actually quite common with con men though. They tend to spend their money on instant gratification - things they often don't need, mainly because they never have any intention of paying routine bills - most of them leave town and move on to the next scam before they have to deal with any of that. Gene is unusual in that he seems to have just stayed in the same area for at least the last 12 years.

Gene is isolated from the real world and his only communication is online. He thinks he is the only person in the world who has struggled with money.

If he did do a real job that would given him a reality check - like how most people don't live a luxury lifestyle when they have a low wage and that spending money on luxuries when you are begging from people is an insult to everyone who donated to you.

It might hammer into his thick head why people find his behaviour so offensive.

Unfortunately seeing how resistant Gene is to work it will likely never happen. He will continue living in his delusion that the Paracast and his begging are an actual "job" until he dies or ends up in jail.

 

[goblin]

I think the main pathology here are his absolute unwillingness to do any real work, the inability to see that asking for money fraudulently is morally wrong (not just in his own behaviour but in his continued denials about the BIL's criminality) and the ease with which he lies and continues to lie even when his dishonesty has been proven.

It seems he is the kind of person who has never worked a real job and has likely been grifting and parasitising other people all his life. Scamming people is not something any ordinary person would ever consider (even in difficult circumstances) -

Gene scams and lies as easily as a normal person breathes.

I don't think he knows anything else and therefore has no concept of how much blood and sweat it takes to actually make money for the average person. He seems to have a core belief that all money is easy money and he deserves to get it.

I think one of the things that aggravated people the most about his begging was that Gene was spending his money on living the high life instead of on essentials the essentials he was actually begging for - driving a new car, living in a luxury apartment, buying the latest Apple tech. - all while claiming he couldn't pay rent or buy food.

This is actually quite common with con men though. They tend to spend their money on instant gratification - things they often don't need, mainly because they never have any intention of paying routine bills - most of them leave town and move on to the next scam before they have to deal with any of that. Gene is unusual in that he seems to have just stayed in the same area for at least the last 12 years.

Gene is isolated from the real world and his only communication is online. He thinks he is the only person in the world who has struggled with money.

If he did do a real job that would given him a reality check - like how most people don't live a luxury lifestyle when they have a low wage and that spending money on luxuries when you are begging from people is an insult to everyone who donated to you.

It might hammer into his thick head why people find his behaviour so offensive.

Unfortunately seeing how resistant Gene is to work it will likely never happen. He will continue living in his delusion that the Paracast and his begging are an actual "job" until he dies or ends up in jail.

Only a suspicion but I think if you've never worked and just grifted your way along, you don't really appreciate the sacrifices other people have made to earn a living. It's almost unfair then that they have money and you don't. Some random caprice of the cosmos granted them and not you wealth; you may as well try to get them to hand their dollars over to you. Why not? What's wrong with that? After all you know what you want from life, what your life should be. Maybe you're an artist and not a drudge, but still: You should be driving a fancy car, using the latest iPhone, living in a nice condo in a gated community, eating every meal out, getting Starbuck's on the regular, and watching all the streaming services the Good Lord has seen fit to offer modern man. You've worked hard at your art after all, haven't you? You wrote books! You have three jobs! Why doesn't anyone get that?

 

[Standingstones]

I think the main pathology here are his absolute unwillingness to do any real work, the inability to see that asking for money fraudulently is morally wrong (not just in his own behaviour but in his continued denials about the BIL's criminality) and the ease with which he lies and continues to lie even when his dishonesty has been proven.

It seems he is the kind of person who has never worked a real job and has likely been grifting and parasitising other people all his life. Scamming people is not something any ordinary person would ever consider (even in difficult circumstances) -

Gene scams and lies as easily as a normal person breathes.

I don't think he knows anything else and therefore has no concept of how much blood and sweat it takes to actually make money for the average person. He seems to have a core belief that all money is easy money and he deserves to get it.

I think one of the things that aggravated people the most about his begging was that Gene was spending his money on living the high life instead of on essentials the essentials he was actually begging for - driving a new car, living in a luxury apartment, buying the latest Apple tech. - all while claiming he couldn't pay rent or buy food.

This is actually quite common with con men though. They tend to spend their money on instant gratification - things they often don't need, mainly because they never have any intention of paying routine bills - most of them leave town and move on to the next scam before they have to deal with any of that. Gene is unusual in that he seems to have just stayed in the same area for at least the last 12 years.

Gene is isolated from the real world and his only communication is online. He thinks he is the only person in the world who has struggled with money.

If he did do a real job that would given him a reality check - like how most people don't live a luxury lifestyle when they have a low wage and that spending money on luxuries when you are begging from people is an insult to everyone who donated to you.

It might hammer into his thick head why people find his behaviour so offensive.

Unfortunately seeing how resistant Gene is to work it will likely never happen. He will continue living in his delusion that the Paracast and his begging are an actual "job" until he dies or ends up in jail.

I believe the term is called “sociopath.”

Have you ever noticed that Steinberg isn’t really interested in UFOs or the paranormal. He never goes to UFO shows, he has never written any books on the subject, he has even said he hasn’t seen a UFO. Frankly, he is more interested in Supergirl than any subjects discussed on the Paracast.

The websites are strictly for asking his members for money. Pure and simple. It has gone way beyond asking for money these days. He demands that other keep him in living funds. The obscene part is doesn’t even see how irregular all this is. He is King Gene and we are his subjects. We must support him because he is royalty.

You can almost see how desperate he is from his begging tirades. He has to know that the jig is almost up. The money is no longer flowing in like it once did. People are now wise to what he is up to. That’s why he perceives every one not on Team Steinberg as bullies and liars. He can’t or won’t join the regular world and get a real job. Thus he is doomed to the existence he finds himself in and there is no way out.

 

[Wade]

Well the next iPhone is going to cross the 4 figure mark, maybe he's trying to get a jump on it

I don't necessarily expect you guys to be clinical psychologists but I wonder what "ist" you give to a person that has to have the latest and newest of whatever realm they are into even if it means having others buy it for you.

 

[Standingstones]

Well the next iPhone is going to cross the 4 figure mark, maybe he's trying to get a jump on it

I don't necessarily expect you guys to be clinical psychologists but I wonder what "ist" you give to a person that has to have the latest and newest of whatever realm they are into even if it means having others buy it for you.

A “Tech Enthusiast” is the closest I could come up with.

 

[David Biedny]

As I've indicated before, Steinberg appears to suffer from some rather severe OCD... he's been digibegging for so long, he doesn't know how to stop, quite literally. He could hit the Lotto tomorrow, and nothing would change, he'd be integrating that into some other bizarre storyline. For whatever it's worth, he's trapped in a Hell of his own making, imagine living in a town for a decade and a half, and not having a single friend there, not one, and neither does the wife. He Neither of them have not bonded even superficially with anyone nearbye, that speaks volumes of the depths of their mental illness - heck, I'm deeply reclusive at this point in my life, but I have good friends within a short distance, friends I've made in that same general timeframe, folks who would never, ever let me become homeless. I have very close friends in California that would love for me to move back and share a house with them, we are so close that they pretty much qualify as family at this point, and are always reminding me that the door is always open for me to move in. That reality is the result of me being aware of the fact that friendships are a give and take, my friends will verify that I am a generous person, and that generosity comes from my belief in a balance to the Universe, some might call it Karma. Gene has spent many, many years taking as much as he could from anyone who would let him, while giving almost nothing back in ANY form to ANYONE. His selfishness is so obvious, and it pretty much invalidates his story of helping the BIL for years, does anyone actually believe he _ever_ had a couple of hundred grand in his bank account, much less hand it over to some family member as an act of kindness? It's total bullshit.

At this point, the piper is coming for his payback, Steinberg is sitting on a dying show, a dying forum, a dying marriage, desperately reaching out in a fashion beyond his psychological control, a washed-up, pathetic loser with nothing to show for his life, no friends, no one to watch his back, a loony Republican wife who thinks she's still some sort of gorgeous young siren, a son who has fled to the other side of the globe to escape the madness of that scene, fuck, if I didn't know him better, I might actually have some empathy or pity for him, but that scumbag counts someone like Tim Beckley as his best friend, which speaks volumes about his sleaziness and generally tragic, delusional reality. Gene is getting everything he's due, and when you've spent the better part of your life lying to people and screwing them over, the payback is gonna hurt something awful. Those of you calling for him to get a job, besides the fact that he hasn't worked an honest job in decades, what makes you think he could ever pass a background check? One glance at the Internet pretty much sums him up, and to anyone looking to hire folks to trust with any aspect of their business, he doesn't even make the first scrutiny pass. He's a parasite, not much more, and he's quickly running out of host bodies to feed from. You know how his signoff has always been "Peace"? That's the one thing he has never, ever had in his entire adult life, he has been living inside of a nightmare for a long, long time, and it's ALL on him.

The only one there I feel sorry for is the dog.

 

[wwkirk]

Damn! I missed the last 10 posts.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

I believe the term is called “sociopath.”

I have no doubt he is a sociopath. It's just most people don't understand what it really means and they presume they all have to be on the level of someone like Bernie Madoff doing billion dollar scams when in reality most of them do pathetic low level fraud and con from friends, family and acquaintances.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

That reality is the result of me being aware of the fact that friendships are a give and take, my friends will verify that I am a generous person, and that generosity comes from my belief in a balance to the Universe, some might call it Karma. Gene has spent many, many years taking as much as he could from anyone who would let him, while giving almost nothing back in ANY form to ANYONE. His selfishness is so obvious, and it pretty much invalidates his story of helping the BIL for years, does anyone actually believe he _ever_ had a couple of hundred grand in his bank account, much less hand it over to some family member as an act of kindness? It's total bullshit..

That's an excellent point although that's not specifically a characteristic of OCD (although Gene could well have OCD traits as well).

That is more consistent with a sociopathic personality (or psychopathic on the more extreme and violent end of things). The person who has this way of thinking is incapable of thinking of the two sides of the equation when it comes to relationships.

There is no give, only take and the more you give them the more they will prey on you as they will see you as easy prey.

They are incapable of true friendship. As soon as someone is no longer of value to them they will drop them and start ignoring them. Similarly though they may expect you to help them out when they have problems they will never reciprocate if the positions are reversed.

In their world the only person of value is them - indeed on the more extreme end of the spectrum they don't even view other people as human beings with any kind of reality or sentience to their existence.

They are more like props, puppets or tools for them to use for their own gratification in whatever form that may take. That is why they never express sincere remorse (they will fake it on occasion though - for example if they get caught and they think they can get a lesser sentence or escape by faking it).

To them there is nothing wrong in lying to people to get money off them or worse. The only "right" thing in their minds is doing whatever they need to do in order to get what they want.

If they want money and they feel they can get that money by lying and making use of a tragedy to raise that money they will do it without a shred of remorse.

The more I see of Gene's activity over the years the more apparent it becomes that he is a sociopath - maybe not on the extreme end of the scale but he definitely seems to have the core traits.

 

[The shadow]

A public response:
When "paranormal Davey " hit the Paracast I was in a state of flux. I was very aware of the grift. I decided to stay only because Chris asked me to.
I also let the "porno Bob " stuff affect me. I was angry. At Gene, At those who in my mind acted like children.
so my mindset was conflicted
Paranormal Davey came on the forums.
within a post or two offered Gene money.
I cautioned Gene. only because he had been tricked into running around after money. Gene by looking at post at UFO trail and SGRC figured out who it was.
he posted the guys name and occupation.
I at that time defended Gene because I was convinced it was a trick to make him look bad.
I was torn. I made this topic. then the hack story.
I could not stay My wife and others told me I needed to walk away.
All my post about it stand as to what happened.
two here tried to warn me.
trained observer
standingsones
to both again I apologize.
I also am aware of the fact I was thrown under the bus by Gene.
as I said I can't change the past. but I can move on.
lesson learned. I hope i answered the questions I was asked privately.
please do not hesitate to contact me and ask.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

A public response:
When "paranormal Davey " hit the Paracast I was in a state of flux. I was very aware of the grift. I decided to stay only because Chris asked me to.
I also let the "porno Bob " stuff affect me. I was angry. At Gene, At those who in my mind acted like children.
so my mindset was conflicted
Paranormal Davey came on the forums.
within a post or two offered Gene money.
I cautioned Gene. only because he had been tricked into running around after money. Gene by looking at post at UFO trail and SGRC figured out who it was.
he posted the guys name and occupation.
I at that time defended Gene because I was convinced it was a trick to make him look bad.
I was torn. I made this topic. then the hack story.
I could not stay My wife and others told me I needed to walk away.
All my post about it stand as to what happened.
two here tried to warn me.
trained observer
standingsones
to both again I apologize.
I also am aware of the fact I was thrown under the bus by Gene.
as I said I can't change the past. but I can move on.
lesson learned. I hope i answered the questions I was asked privately.
please do not hesitate to contact me and ask.

You don't need to keep apologising. We all enabled him in one way or the other because we were all taken in by him. I thought he was a kindly old man and sincerely regret the ways in which I helped him and at times defended him. We all make mistakes though and the important thing is learning from them.

 

[The shadow]

thank you. I feel unclean thanks to him.
now onwards
let's say his not a lair.
an advertiser bailed on him. he demanded a refund from him.
a chargeback on his account. if the chargeback is not resolved gene will have Pay pal take funds from his bank account. this can not be stopped. most likely the Pay pal account will be closed. the fourms are dead. Gene faces a cascade of events he set in motion.
the end of the paracast.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

thank you. I feel unclean thanks to him.
now onwards
let's say his not a lair.
an advertiser bailed on him. he demanded a refund from him.
a chargeback on his account. if the chargeback is not resolved gene will have Pay pal take funds from his bank account. this can not be stopped. most likely the Pay pal account will be closed. the fourms are dead. Gene faces a cascade of events he set in motion.
the end of the paracast.

If only the world worked that way. Schemey finds a way to always land back on his feet and in a more expensive apartment. I fear he will find some way to scam someone out of money and avoid total disaster.

 

[goblin]

If only the world worked that way. Schemey finds a way to always land back on his feet and in a more expensive apartment. I fear he will find some way to scam someone out of money and avoid total disaster.

If I had to bet, I'd bet you're right. I keep thinking his luck has to run out at some point. I don't relish the thought but I don't feel sorry for him either. I will feel bad if he does con someone out of another lump of cash and burns another landlord. Those people can have my sympathy, although, anyone considering giving him cash, I'd hope they look into him a little.

 

[Standingstones]

It’s unfortunate that anyone can call themselves an expert in Ufology and basically get away with it. A person can set up a website and immediately begin to ask for funds and not have to tell the public what that money is being used for. You need to be very careful not to trust a person that is not transparent about the money being given to them.

Steinberg had every negative trait in his fund raising and yet people still gave him money to do with as he pleased. Live and learn, I guess.

 

[goblin]

It’s unfortunate that anyone can call themselves an expert in Ufology and basically get away with it. A person can set up a website and immediately begin to ask for funds and not have to tell the public what that money is being used for. You need to be very careful not to trust a person that is not transparent about the money being given to them.

Steinberg had every negative trait in his fund raising and yet people still gave him money to do with as he pleased. Live and learn, I guess.

I think people can feel an artificial sense of closeness with a radio or podcast host. Something about the intimacy of listening to that voice over and over, and enjoying the content. I liked Art Bell even though he seemed like he was a real cad with one of his wives and some of his kids, and promoted some squirrelly stuff.

And people can be trusting in general... not sure it's technically the halo effect but, if you like the Paracast, and think Gene must be an OK and on-the-ball guy to put it together and you see a sudden request for emergency cash from him.... Well, we know that happens, right? I'm a fan of comic strip and some comic book art. I sometimes see fundraising appeals for an artist or writer who did great work, never held down a straight job, and now has health care bills in their old age. And shit happens, we know this. No reason to imagine Gene is begging in perpetuity, until you realize that he is.

The twisted, hideous (and ongoing!) saga of Scheme Gene Steinberg is an excellent lesson that one should never give anyone on the Internet money without doing a little homework first. Unless you just want to throw some dough out there and don't care. But I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[GhostofBiedny]

Today's transmissions - more ways to assist Steinbeg even though you didn't ask and don't care:

Newsletter:

More ways you can assist me!
Hi,

My situation today is complicated.

I have maybe an hour or two to pay the motel so I can stay for a few more days, but I’m running into a problem trying to put the money together.

It’s not made easier without PayPal, which is negative due to the false chargeback claims.

I suggested Apple Pay Cash, which means instant payments. But it works best of the business accepts Apple Pay. Many do, but most motels don’t, at least the one we’re staying at.

I can transfer the money direct to my bank account, but it’ll take one to three days.

I tried Facebook Messenger exactly twice for very small amounts, and the transfer to my bank debit card was instantaneous. But I don’t know how this is reflected with larger payments.

You may also send payments via Western Union or Moneygram. Please write me for details.

Another way is a direct deposit to my bank account, but it’s not instantaneous. But I realize these methods are often frowned on, so I only suggest them as workable alternatives.

With ad payments and subscription payments to Paracast+ and Tech Night Owl+, the PayPal account should be replenished soon, so I can use it again.

If you’re not able to send a donation, feel free to forward this message to someone who might assist.

If you have any questions about my living situation, please let me know.

To receive regular updates, please sign up here: Available Mailing Lists

Peace,
Gene

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Dear GOB,

If you’re sick and tired of reading these messages, please accept my apology.

If that’s the case, feel free to ignore this message, or you may easily remove yourself from the mailing list. The instructions are at the bottom of this letter.

I have been struggling to right my finances, and the forthcoming new Paracast site and online store are bound to help free me from having to seek donations.

My situation today is even more complicated.

I have maybe an hour or two to pay the motel as I write this, so I can stay for a few more days, but I’m running into a problem trying to put the money together.

It’s not made easier without PayPal, which is negative due to the false chargeback claims.

Yesterday, I suggested Apple Pay Cash, which means instant payments. But it works best of the business accepts Apple Pay. Many do, but most motels don’t, at least the one we’re staying at.

I can transfer the money direct to my bank account, but it’ll take one to three days.

I tried Facebook Messenger exactly twice for very small amounts, and the transfer to my bank debit card was instantaneous. But I don’t know how this is reflected with larger payments.

You may also send payments via Western Union or Moneygram. Please write me for details.

Another way is a direct deposit to my bank account, but it’s not instantaneous. But I realize these methods are often frowned on, so I only suggest them as workable alternatives.

With ad payments and subscription payments to Paracast+ and Tech Night Owl+, the PayPal account should be replenished soon, so I can use it again.

If you’re not able to send a donation, feel free to forward this message to someone who might assist.

If you have any questions about my living situation, please let me know.

To receive regular updates, please sign up here: Available Mailing Lists

Peace,
Gene

P.S.: I don’t want to send messages to you if you don’t want to receive them. To stop receiving emails from The Paracast Community Forums, please change your "Receive site mailings" setting from here: http://www.theparacast.com/forum/account/contact-details

 

[The shadow]

sooo he thinks his new website will solve his problems?
I notice "anders " has 100% exited the storyline. he thinks his Paracast plus subs will clear up his Pay pal?
he has an hour to pay the motel? my head is spinning..

 

[goblin]

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I don't know why he bothers going into details about Apple Pay Cash and Facebook Messenger. Just tell people cleanly how to send you money, Gene. No one cares about how you've tested things.

Is there really any chance he is out of money? I doubt it. I expect that he will magically be able to pay for the motel. Things will catch up with him eventually, but I do not believe we are there yet.

It feels a little contradictory to me for him to both say the PayPal account will be 'replenished soon', and simultaneously be so panicked as to want people to freaking wire him cash. But, that's our boy. He has to beg, has to lie, and has to produce those shows of his, no matter what.