Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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  1. GhostofBiedny

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    Is this separate from the 2016 judgment or is the 2016 case a continuation of this - sorry not really familiar with bankruptcy proceedings?
     
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  2. goblin

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    Not a lawyer (I believe that Erickson is) but I think this was a judgment against the Steinbergs in 2013, which Gene discharged via the 2016 bankruptcy.
     
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  3. The shadow

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    This was posted on trail :
    mikeOctober 9, 2018 at 8:53 PM
    Personally i think Bob and Chris should get some credit for having walked away from the scammer once they realized the Brobdingnagian extent of Genes begging scam.

    Randall deserves all and any criticism, he must see that what Gene is doing , Preying on the kind hearts and good nature of others to rake in money he clearly doesn't need is wrong.

    Randall has read this blog, He can see for himself the enormity of the offense.

    Exploiting peoples good nature and kindness under false pretenses.

    There is an old adage: Con me once, shame on you. Scam me twice shame on me.

    What gene does when he scams people like this is make people wary of helping others going forward. People see the scam and feel duped, And human nature being what it is they become cynical, and less likely to donate to real causes going forward.

    The behavior is selfish and greedy and despicable .

    Bob and Chris once they saw this, did the right thing and walked away.

    Bob to his absolute credit is actively trying to make others aware of the scam and in doing so is saving others from the Trap that is Steinberg inc.

    Randall on the other hand has chosen to turn a blind eye to the obvious scam, and in doing so tacitly enables and endorses it by his actions.

    Just my opinion, Mileage will vary

    I don't normally post on trail but I posted a response.
    Mike and the Anonymous, I thank you. I wish to say this. If one word ,one post or statement by any one has prevented someone from donating then everything that has been said is worth it. When I left the paracast I felt my reputation was in ruins. Mike can attest to my standing up and calling out Michael Horn. I always sought one thing The truth no matter where it leads to.

    My personal hero Ellie Wiessel wrote “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages tormentor, never the tormented.

    I speak out not because I wish to torment a 73 year old man. But to prevent a possible crime.

    My father in Law Is semi retired. He works at Walmart as a greeter. He enjoys the fruits of his life. Grandchildren, A house and friends and family. I pains me greatly that most likely while we celebrate the upcoming holiday that while we will celebrate with love laughter and family. Gene will spend his holiday in a motel room. Alone with his wife. His son long since gone. No family no friends. This is the outcome of 12 years of begging. This is his karma. It further pains me to think that when Gene passes beyond. He will leave this world unmourned. It is my hope that when I leave this earth that I leave it A better place and I will be remembered with love and fondness. Gene will leave with a legacy as well. Of grift, lies and fraud. I will end by saying one last thing. After all that has happened. After all he has done. I still wish him well.

    And if anything I wrote about this has prevented someone from being scammed then it is worth it. Even being called “porno Bob”

    Bob Watson
     
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  4. Standingstones

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    I’ve always looked at these posts on the Alien Expanse and the UFO Trail as a warning. Anyone who gives Steinberg money is simply pissing their precious funds down a hole. Tomorrow he will be right back at it begging away, not one inch closer to getting himself out of debt.
     
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  5. Standingstones

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    If only this could be posted on the Paracast without Steinberg or Murphy ripping it down. I take that back. Constance, Big Foot Lady, Marduk and a few others would probably still post there. They would say that someone is merely scamming Steinberg.
     
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  6. GhostofBiedny

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    Now they have Alejandro Rojas on the show. I suppose it doesn't matter what Gene does, people in the UFO field will keep coming on his podcast.
     
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  7. goblin

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    Agree strongly.

    And if someone has the dough and wants to as they say throw good money after bad, then so be it. It's their dollars or dongs.

    I do not believe it is actually helping Gene a bit however. If anything I think it's allowing him to maintain the dysfunctional dynamic a bit longer (arguably he'll never change it anyway).
     
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  8. Ritzy

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    I was wondering what Rojas would do.
     
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  9. goblin

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    as a p.s. - Someone posted a comment on the UFO Trail blog, iirc, that as a result of the emails they felt sorry for Gene, and gave him $250 on October 1st. Again, in my world we're all free to do as we wish with our own money, but I'd certainly argue there are WAY better causes out there than Gene Steinberg if you have $250 and are looking to help someone. That said I get that someone coming on one or two of Gene's emails for the first time is going to think Gene is in dire straits, as that's exactly what the emails are designed to make them think. I'm not criticizing the donor, just, if people want to help others, I hope they start with someone or something other than the cause of whatever it is Gene does with all his money.
     
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  10. Standingstones

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    I heard a speaker once state that it is right and proper to help out the destitute and needy. It was wrong to give money to those that won’t work or help themselves out, he said. Those lazy people were building up negative karma that will come back and negatively impact these individuals in a future lifetime.
     
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  11. nivek

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    Does Alejandro Rojas know about Gene's scams?...

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  12. GhostofBiedny

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    Not sure. I presumed he would have heard by now but I may be overestimating how far Schemey's notoriety has gone.
     
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  13. GhostofBiedny

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    Schemey is not just lazy. He actively preys on other people's kindness to scam them out of money. It is also pretty clear he was closely involved in the BIL's sham businesses and to this day slanders the victims whilst denying the criminal nature of the enterprise. I think that is a whole other level of negative Karma.
     
  14. The shadow

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    that link is from UFO trail
     
  16. Standingstones

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    Yes, Steinberg was posing questions on the Xenforo website. Surprise, surprise! There was no Anders after all. Super programmer Steinberg is confused and needs help with a problem.

    I also saw a new member (Steinberg himself) in the forum praising Geno. Pretty lame in the "Scheme" of things.
     
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  17. GhostofBiedny

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    I think so but I didn't really need much proof for that. Most of us suspected it was a fabrication to give the impression that he was doing something to change his situation.

    Upgrading your forum software does not require professional help. Further no professional would take this long to do what is such a small job.

    Also the website homepage is still the same mess it was before and hasn't been updated - I could do the work on that in a couple of hours. How is it still not live?

    Ditto for the new store. It's not like he's going to be launching his own clothing brand. You can rustle up a redbubble/cafepress or other merchandise store very fast - I know because I have done it myself in the past.

    None of what Gene has said about Anders made sense. Indeed the whole name thing only popped up after Gene read people's messages that expressed skepticism about the whole thing. Then it disappeared again.

    As has been said before, Gene lies so much, the safest assumption is to assume he is lying until proven otherwise.
     
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  18. The shadow

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    maybe someone should,start a topic there..lol
     
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  19. The shadow

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    folks..I like to mention today.. not a single post on the paracast. not a one..the forum is now a graveyard. and who is there keeping watch? Gene..
     
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  20. Double Nought Spy

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    Who the hell sends money to a stranger they found on the internet without typing their name into a search engine? It literally takes seconds, even if you use one finger. It's mind boggling! Internet is awash in crooks and bullshit. Gene's google results look like Elwood Blues' page on that cop's computer screen. What the hell are these people thinking?

    Oh, and DB being the cause of all Gene's problems? Griftboy has lost whatever marbles he may have had. That's just moronic.
     
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