The shadow
The shadow knows!
He got me good for a while. My wife Was angry when she saw how we were played. She refuses with small exception to talk about the grift. She sees this as karma,Bad Karma.and for what it's worth she may be right.
Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums
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He got me good for a while. My wife Was angry when she saw how we were played. She refuses with small exception to talk about the grift. She sees this as karma,Bad Karma.and for what it's worth she may be right.
goblin
Noble
I agree she may be. Some days I tell myself I should ignore it then I get another email and wind up looking at the responses here and elsewhere, or just can't hold myself back from chiming in.
Steinberg is a sad case and I don't believe he will change. It is possible the attention his story has gotten at the UFO Trail blog and elsewhere has helped some people who would otherwise be enabling him.
I should let it go, I keep coming back. I also find myself sometimes thinking in my own life, worrying even, "Am I being like Gene Steinberg?" when I want to spend money on something and know that I should stay within my planned budget. Of course I do not solicit money from others under any pretenses, never mind outlandish ones. And certainly sometimes I worry about being destitute in my old age, despite that my wife and I both are both saving and have 401Ks, and really the real challenge would probably be even managing to be alive into my 70s. Gene seems like a cautionary tale to me sometimes, a set of attitudes and circumstances and outcomes I want to avoid, if that makes any sense. I know it doesn't sound hard but perhaps at one time he never thought he'd wind up living as he does.
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Standingstones
Celestial
Even a cursory look at Steinberg should tell you all you need to know. He has never written about the UFO subject (don’t bother bringing up those lame Rockoid books.) He doesn’t attend or speak at conventions. He does zero work on his own show. The co-hosts have done all the hard labor. You only need to listen to a few episodes. Steinberg is only interested in comic book superheroes.
Worst of all are those who gave this charlatan their hard earned money. There are plenty of people who deserve monetary help more than someone who won’t lift a lazy finger to help himself. What more need be said?
Worst of all are those who gave this charlatan their hard earned money. There are plenty of people who deserve monetary help more than someone who won’t lift a lazy finger to help himself. What more need be said?
Standingstones
Celestial
Everyone should be setting aside retirement money. On the other hand, life is damn short. If you want to take a vacation trip or buy some item you desire, if is within reason, you should go for it. I have known too many people who have retired only to die shortly afterwards. Don't fall into that trap. Enjoy it while you can.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
i think he already knows, but he has better stuff to do than talking about this issue
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
he disappeared after he was found to be a fraud, its doubtfull he will ever return to the field...
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
RPJ is a amazing researcher, one one of the best new arrivals to the field actually.
i can see why he would not want to partake in such discussions
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
also like @The shadow i will be taking a break from this stuff (3 pages in one day? jesus christ!)
@nivek please PM me when something big happens
@nivek please PM me when something big happens
wwkirk
Divine
He has a book coming out in December.
Strange Heavens: The Celestial Sphere and its Influence on Mythology, Religion, and Belief in the Paranormal
The Wonders of the Sky at Night
"You'll Never Look at the Stars the Same Way Again
"The infinite expanse of the night sky has long been the source of mystery and wonder. Strange Heavens explores the myths, religions, and spiritual experiences that have emerged from humanity's profound relationship with the celestial sphere. Join author Philip J. Imbrogno on a journey through time as he describes the ancient fascination with the constellations and the Milky Way, the influence of the great astronomers and explorers of the Renaissance, the evolution of science fiction, and the role of space in the popular imagination. Discover unique perspectives on the role of gods, goddesses, aliens, angels, and other supernatural beings. Learn about the role of the heavens in ancient Greek philosophy as well as fascinating insights from the early astronomers of China and India. Whether you're a serious observer of the skies or someone with a casual interest, this book shares perspectives and ideas that will change your relationship with the strange heavens forever."
The shadow
The shadow knows!
I may take a second break from it.
I don't want to make a big deal about it.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
doubt anyone will buy itHe has a book coming out in December.
Strange Heavens: The Celestial Sphere and its Influence on Mythology, Religion, and Belief in the Paranormal
The Wonders of the Sky at Night
"You'll Never Look at the Stars the Same Way Again
"The infinite expanse of the night sky has long been the source of mystery and wonder. Strange Heavens explores the myths, religions, and spiritual experiences that have emerged from humanity's profound relationship with the celestial sphere. Join author Philip J. Imbrogno on a journey through time as he describes the ancient fascination with the constellations and the Milky Way, the influence of the great astronomers and explorers of the Renaissance, the evolution of science fiction, and the role of space in the popular imagination. Discover unique perspectives on the role of gods, goddesses, aliens, angels, and other supernatural beings. Learn about the role of the heavens in ancient Greek philosophy as well as fascinating insights from the early astronomers of China and India. Whether you're a serious observer of the skies or someone with a casual interest, this book shares perspectives and ideas that will change your relationship with the strange heavens forever."
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Lol I wish it were true. These people almost always come back with something new.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
I hope you are right. People seem to forget really fast in the paranormal community.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Nobody cares if RPJ talks about it - indeed I can respect it if he doesn't want to get into the discussion. What I don't like is the quiet endorsement of Steinberg that he and his cohorts in the field provide by continuing to go on the show. If Imbrogno had a show would he go on that too?
I thought he (RPJ) was one of the better guys in the field but his whole stance on this matter has really lessened my respect for him. Seems only a few people in the community like Ritzman, Vaeni, Binnall, Brewer etc have the balls to call out scams. Everyone else just ignores them when it suits them - too much trouble to "rock the boat" and I suspect it isn't good for business.
I suppose the paranormal/ufology should come with a warning - "leave your ethics before entering".
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
yep, surprised me too
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
If I remember right he was claiming to be from MIT but the only thing he had to do with MIT was a Tshirt! I think it was Lance Moody that figured out all his credentials were fake. Just shows how easy it is to fake it online and most people will take it at face value.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
I think we all need to be careful not become too obsessed with Gene lest we end up like him (at least in terms of living our lives online). Also we have had another blessed day without a beg. Maybe things are improving.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
and its a niche book about mithology, meh
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
well he has no other podcats to go other than the paracast, sounds more like he is in a hard situation
also who is vaeni?
and finnaly binnall writes clickbaity articles in the coast to coast am website
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
That isn't true. He goes on almost every podcast I listen to on a frequent basis and many others I don't listen to - it's not like there is a shortage of paranormal podcasts.
Another paranormal blogger.
So what? Endorsing Schemey is a lot worse than writing a "clickbaity" article as you call it.
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