Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
No doubt there are other countries in which retirement homes might be an attractive option. Also true that in the US there are some very nice assisted living and nursing homes. Unfortunately I have had quite a lot of unwelcome experience regarding care for the elderly and end of life issues. Dealing with it right now. Having been through this a few times and been through a number of different types of facilities - in some cases for years - I have yet to see anything that anyone would voluntarily commit themselves to. I wouldn't even wish it on f***nuts GS.

People go to extremes to maintain their independence, and sometimes are required to for lack of a better option.

I do agree that there are places he could go to for help if that need was sincere (it ain't) and he could get himself decent free meals. He might not qualify for housing subsidy or food stamps based on his social security income.

I think you keep making the same mistake and it is a common one - what you are talking about are nursing homes and various levels of assisted living. Gene does not need that and would not even qualify for that.

What has been suggested to Gene is a subsidised elderly housing where he can live independently. All it does is provide accommodation - meals can also be included depending on the actual place and some of the communities actually have separate homes for people to live in so they are not even housed in a single building. Even in those that don't residents have at least as much autonomy and independence as they would if they were staying day to day in a motel - plus they have the added bonus of a community of a similar age and stability (i.e. not constantly worrying about being kicked out).

There is no nursing care involved - some places have a 24/7 manned alarm system in case of a medical emergency such as a fall which is more likely to be an emergency in elderly people but that has no bearing on a person's independence - it is just an easier way of getting help if something goes wrong.

Having been involved with all these different varieties of care (from zero with full independence, to full nursing care) I can tell you that these places exist and people often choose to live in them. The only assistance is in the form of financial subsidy and that is what I think would exclude Gene.

He would firstly need to pay a component of the cost and further he would need to hand over full details of his finances to determine what level of subsidy he would qualify for.
 
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erickson

Honorable
Based just on the social security income I think he probably would qualify under HUD guidelines, but there is still the eviction history. Mercy Housing, which operates the senior living apartments near me, generally does not want to see an eviction within the past three to five years.

None of this is anything that we can sort out here. Gene needs to meet with people in the area who can help him figure things out.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
The problem with all this speculation is that Steinberg won’t consider any of these suggestions. Unless he is incapacitated in some way he would never go along with seeking out help. I would think that he would have to open himself up to people knowing his true finances. That is something he will never do unless he is in a court of law. Even then, he would probably lie about it if he thought he could get away with something.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
The problem with all this speculation is that Steinberg won’t consider any of these suggestions. Unless he is incapacitated in some way he would never go along with seeking out help. I would think that he would have to open himself up to people knowing his true finances. That is something he will never do unless he is in a court of law. Even then, he would probably lie about it if he thought he could get away with something.

Exactly. As we've all said multiple times the only suggestions he accepts involve sending him money. Anything else gets you labelled as a troll or a hater. Steinberg is comfortable enough with his current lifestyle. That means he is weird enough to be happy with indefinite homelessness in the guise of a motel or that he isn't in a motel. Either way he wants things to continue as they are so he can keep on begging.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher

GhostofBiedny

Celestial

Well he is a good writer and generally a good guy (aside from this Gene business)- nobody is denying that. That is why I don't get his condoning of Gene. Anyway hopefully he will come to his senses, sometimes it takes time to accept these things. Just look at Chris O'Brien. Even Paul Kimball has only recently switched over to admitting the truth.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Well he is a good writer and generally a good guy (aside from this Gene business)- nobody is denying that. That is why I don't get his condoning of Gene. Anyway hopefully he will come to his senses, sometimes it takes time to accept these things. Just look at Chris O'Brien. Even Paul Kimball has only recently switched over to admitting the truth.
thats my point, i don't like his love of his gene but his research
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
thats my point, i don't like his love of his gene but his research

I think we call different things research though. I think people commonly confuse what actual research constitutes within this field because hardly anyone actually knows how to do research (primarily due to the fringe nature of these subjects and the fact that it is a hobby for most of us).

As far as I know RPJ is not doing any research in the scientific sense. He is more interested in writing about people's experiences which he finds interesting, which is fine, but not what I would call research. That makes him more of a writer/blogger which is basically what a large proportion of people in Ufology and the paranormal do.

To be honest I can't really think of anyone doing scientific research right now. I know back in ye olden days of Ufology there were a few people - hard to think of anyone now. I think the subject is just considered to damaging to serious researcher's reputation.
 
I think we call different things research though. I think people commonly confuse what actual research constitutes within this field because hardly anyone actually knows how to do research (primarily due to the fringe nature of these subjects and the fact that it is a hobby for most of us).

As far as I know RPJ is not doing any research in the scientific sense. He is more interested in writing about people's experiences which he finds interesting, which is fine, but not what I would call research. That makes him more of a writer/blogger which is basically what a large proportion of people in Ufology and the paranormal do.

To be honest I can't really think of anyone doing scientific research right now. I know back in ye olden days of Ufology there were a few people - hard to think of anyone now. I think the subject is just considered to damaging to serious researcher's reputation.

Well put. RPJ is no more knowledgeable on these topics than lots of us who have been following the various UFO phenomena for decades. He's a prolific commenter. I know he has lots of fans, but don't know why. As a friend of mine likes to say, persistence will get you a long way. ;) There was that one guy, had a blog and some famous friends, died very young. Mac Tonnies. Nice guy. Very articulate. He seemed to get credit (from some) for inventing the idea of aliens being from Earth. Well, something like that. Of course all those ideas had been around far longer than he had. Those ideas were old even before I was born. I never did get that whole thing. I had nothing against him. If I lived near him and met him, I'd probably have had a few beers with him. But really, he wasn't a researcher or investigator. Oh well, at least he wasn't just famous for being famous.

The old literature is full of investigators visiting witnesses, checking with military bases, looking up airline schedules and astronomical tables, looking at the spots where weird things were reported to have happened. I'm impressed with the resourcefulness and the professionalism you find in that stuff. Intelligent people out doing things. Endless rehashes of other people's work don't impress me. Hell, I could do that, but I have better ways to waste my time.
 

Rikki

High Priestess
I do not like to post in this topic, there is a lot of negative karma. Karma that comes from a source. A dark source. While on the paracast website My husband told me about the plight of Gene.
I contacted him. The story was dark. A family member accused of crimes. He spoke of destitution, of poverty.
He was in dire financial need. He had no money, no income. Nothing. He said he was not paid for ads. He had to live like this because he wiped himself out. So I gave him money. My husband gave him money. We helped him out. The more we gave the more he wanted. I saw he wanted us to support him. I left the paracast after a “discussion” with “Constance”. I felt cheated. It took a long time for my husband to leave the paracast as well. He was honoring a promise. There is negative Kama. And it comes form one man.

I can only hope in some small way he sees this error. What bothers me the most is this, I was told by several forum members that His first wife was a WICCAN priestess. She should have tried more to put him on a proper path. And so I have spoken as I promised my husband I would.

As it is so shall it be.

Blessed be

Rikki
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Well put. RPJ is no more knowledgeable on these topics than lots of us who have been following the various UFO phenomena for decades. He's a prolific commenter. I know he has lots of fans, but don't know why. As a friend of mine likes to say, persistence will get you a long way. ;) There was that one guy, had a blog and some famous friends, died very young. Mac Tonnies. Nice guy. Very articulate. He seemed to get credit (from some) for inventing the idea of aliens being from Earth. Well, something like that. Of course all those ideas had been around far longer than he had. Those ideas were old even before I was born. I never did get that whole thing. I had nothing against him. If I lived near him and met him, I'd probably have had a few beers with him. But really, he wasn't a researcher or investigator. Oh well, at least he wasn't just famous for being famous.

The old literature is full of investigators visiting witnesses, checking with military bases, looking up airline schedules and astronomical tables, looking at the spots where weird things were reported to have happened. I'm impressed with the resourcefulness and the professionalism you find in that stuff. Intelligent people out doing things. Endless rehashes of other people's work don't impress me. Hell, I could do that, but I have better ways to waste my time.

Exactly. Indeed the paranormal field is almost entirely made up of people who just represent other people's work. There is nothing wrong with that but it is not true investigation or research.

Just being a nice guy doesn't make you an authority on a subject that raises you beyond everyone else in the community.

As you say most of these people are just collecting cases which they subjectively like but none of them have directly interviewed witnesses, cross referenced those sightings with meteorological data, collated the data, synthesised or processed it etc. like the old researchers (many of whom were scientists) used to do.

Writing a blog using information that those other people collected is not the same. Sure it is entertaining and informative but it does not make you a researcher and I don't think RPJ or even the late Mac Tonnies ever described themselves as such.

They, like us are people who are interested in this field.

For example, I used to blog, and I would on occasion write about computing matters and new technology that interested me. That did not make me a computer researcher.

As for the fandom I think there is a cultish nature to this field. I'm not sure exactly why. You don't even need to have anything useful to say or any interesting opinions in order to gather such fans/groupies. Indeed the more outlandish and crazy the information you put out, the more successful you can be in many cases.

RPJ has a lot of opinions on things (with a particular new age skew) but I've yet to hear him explain any of it coherently in any of his extremely frequent podcast appearances. He is very well read and certainly an intelligent and articulate person but that is not the same thing as giving a good explanation. He talks a lot and expresses himself with great confidence.

I think a lot of times people mistake articulacy, confidence and sheer volume of speech for in depth specialist knowledge of a subject.

This is a grave error.

Some of the most intelligent people I have known throughout my life - people doing high level research have actually been some of the most inarticulate people I have known and conversely some of the people who have been great talkers have had little substance behind what they have said.

It's hardly a surprise since we live in a society and culture where style and delivery takes prominence over actual substance.

That said I would much rather someone was a groupie of say RPJ than a conman like Corey Goode or one of the variety of other fantasists who seem to rise to prominence.

Of course since RPJ is honest and not trying to con people he will not rise to that level of fame anyway.
 
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GhostofBiedny

Celestial
LOL as if it could get more ridiculous:

Another plea for help!
Hello,

The other day, while driving a passenger via one of the ride-hailing services, I received a fake phone call from someone claiming to be our new webmaster. This was just the latest example of how the cyberbullies have attempted to stalk me.

Worse, people known to me, including my sister-in-law, have also been singled out for harassment. She recently received a printout from a friend that contained a number of online messages attacking her husband, who actually died four years ago.

The cyberbullies continue to try to stop people from sending donations, advertise on my radio shows, or even appear as guests.

Can it get any worse?

Meantime, my money situation is very much the same.

The motel has to be paid by 11 AM each day. If I don’t pay, they add a $25 late fee, and they can still throw us out by noon.

The storage facility is warning me that they will dispose of our furniture if they aren’t paid.

Other bills are due.

Until PayPal is solvent — and that will happen soon — here’s how you can help me today:

If you have an iPhone and iOS 11 or later, you can use Apple Pay Cash. You’d send the payment via the Messages app to: gene@theparacast.com

Otherwise, you can use Western Union or Moneygram. Walmart has a deal with Moneygram that offers a lower rate. You can send payments at your nearest Walmart store, or use the following link:

https://walmart.moneygram.com/walmart/us/en/

Send it to Eugene Steinberg, Mesa, Arizona.

For me to pick up the money, I’ll need a tracking number.

If you’re not able to send a donation, feel free to forward this message to someone who might assist.

If you have any questions about my living situation, please let me know.

Peace,
Gene
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
The other day, while driving a passenger via one of the ride-hailing services, I received a fake phone call from someone claiming to be our new webmaster.
Right it has to be fake since we know the only webmaster is Gene himself as demonstrated by the Xenforo forum.

Worse, people known to me, including my sister-in-law, have also been singled out for harassment. She recently received a printout from a friend that contained a number of online messages attacking her husband, who actually died four years ago.
The poor sister in law and her poor husband. The one who ripped off vulnerable elderly people and went to jail for it. Did someone say something bad about them? How dare they!

The cyberbullies continue to try to stop people from sending donations, advertise on my radio shows, or even appear as guests.
Awesome projection. The "cyberbullies" are just telling the truth about your shenanigans - the information you have put out yourself and which is in the public record. If you weren't a conman there would not be anything to put people off associating with you. You created this situation. Schemey has to be the first conman who complains about people telling the truth about him, directly to the very marks he is trying to con.

Can it get any worse?
I'm sure it can, Schemey finds a way.

Meantime, my money situation is very much the same.
Lol the usual lazy cut and paste begins....blah..blah...must pay the motel every day....storage facility groundhog day....Paypal still not solvent.....Moneygram.....Western Union.
 

Dewey

Honorable
Wow, did any of you realize that you have to pay the motel for each day you want to stay there? Even if you paid for the day before, they want to be paid again the very next day! Quite the racket they have going. I'm sure glad my bank doesn't expect me to pay the mortgage month after month with no break.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Wow, did any of you realize that you have to pay the motel for each day you want to stay there? Even if you paid for the day before, they want to be paid again the very next day! Quite the racket they have going. I'm sure glad my bank doesn't expect me to pay the mortgage month after month with no break.
I'm shocked. I've been staying at expensive hotels completely free for years. Must be a new thing.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
ok here is a challenge. what is his SIL email? her phone? her address? how do you send her anything? anyone have any Info like that? no!
 

erickson

Honorable
His money situation remains the same, with the hotel and storage facility still wanting to be paid. Yesterday's social security check only brought one day's reprieve?

Gene - people have allegedly called you claiming to be Anders? I don't think people should do that, but as people said at the time, perhaps its best not to post your phone number when you beg for donations.

Someone sent Helene a printout about Stephen? Other than those who were never paid restitution, people would not care about Stephen if you had not consistently lied about his problems, pictured him as a victim and slandered his actual victims, and continue to refuse to apologize for all the ways you have gotten money through false pretenses. And now you want to present Helene as a victim?

This is the same Helene who continued to assert after Stephen died that she would get a settlement and has apparently blocked you from finding out more. Maybe she needs to read the printout.

Cyberbullies have harassed you? Although I do not understand why someone would want to be on your show, I would leave it at that. Perhaps some are angrier at your actions than I am. Can you think of any reason why?
 
Scumbag strikes again. If (and a big IF) someone actually showed his SIL what people are saying about her dead hubby, she has every right to be upset. I would be upset if I had to relive the fact that my husband was a lying con artist who cheated real people out of real money. I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR HER! The entire family tree is full of rotten apples.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Did he not receive his social security money yesterday?...:huh8:

My uncle did...:Whistle:

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