Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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GhostofBiedny

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"Sometimes they cause real harm, such as harassing the rental office of an apartment complex I used to live in, trying to takeover my online accounts, and sending one or more fake letters to the people from whom I earn money. By trying to prevent me from earning a living, they simply make matters worse. That's where it has gotten out of hand."
note the "by trying to prevent me from earning a living"
You mean trying to prevent some poor sap like Tolson? or to prevent someone like my wife and I who out of kindness of our hearts gave you cash? no one is stopping you from doing your show. no one will stop you from uber or lift.
No one will stop you from doing an honest days work.
But we will call out the grift.
Gene stop begging.. and i will stop posting.. simple the grift must end.

By making a living Gene means scamming. He wants to be left to scam people without any scrutiny.
 

GiantsBain

Honorable
I love this post from Steinberg. He is sending out thousands of emails requesting money but no one is allowed to comment on this?? He is delusional. Next, individuals are preventing him from earning a living? You need to actually work a job Steinberg. Sitting behind a keyboard deleting posts on the Paracast isn’t working a job. That is called noodling. Lastly, he is in love with his “Terms of Service.” That catch-all phrase that allows him to shut up the last couple of members of the Paracast.

Hey Gene, take a hard look at the members you have on your website. I normally see zero or one individuals online. The posts I see come from you or Murphy. That should give you an empty feeling in your gut.
For those concerned, the chances that the Paracast forums will ever become active again must be vanishingly small. Any listener of good will who visits will sooner or later see an errant post referring to the proprietor's bizarre personal mess of a life. They will catch on and move on if they don't get nosy themselves. And many have already. Sure, such posts are scrubbed right away, but not soon enough to kill any possible momentum for that site other than the clumsy and credulous, and he's down to the nubbins on those, too.

Given that the momentum and avalanche of public evidence of Gene's greasy dealings' is still less than year old, guests familiar to the field may continue to have a go at the Paracast for awhile. But imagine being interviewed by The Randallbot. That can't be pleasant for any reasonable person, can it?. And, unless, these guests go to ground like vampires after their show visits, they surely get an earful about their esteemed host. So, we shall see who is who in the next year I suppose on the hobby podcast/radio air time filler as well.
 

DavidVincent

Honorable
Well what can I say? - that guy Steinberg is certainly instrasigent to say the least. I don't think that I could be accused of indulging in "hate talk" by asking a few questions in that Paracast forum - but it's now been locked down. No further postings permitted. Censorship for sure, imposed by someone who's clearly in denial - but obviously he must have whole shed load of problems. I've always found that it's best just to avoid "toxic people" and not engage them. It's obvious to me now that he is certainly is one.

Without even going into his past misdemeanors (I've no wish to) and speaking only of the here and now I think that anyone still willing receiving such messages let alone responding to them must be doing so willingly and does so at their own risk? Caveat Emptor! I find it incredible to believe that anyone would now fall for these.

Anyway I think its clear that the good ship "Paracast" is probably fatally holed below the waterline - and is at any rate listing badly. It will probably submerge entirely in the not too distant. A sad end to what was once (in he early days anyway) truly "The Gold Standard" :(

I took a look at the GCN site - not so many years ago the Paracast downloads from there ran into the thousands, now it's down to bearly to double figures!! I know that most people would use iTunes, but the GCN fall off is an interesting indicative. Also most of the recent iTunes feedback comments are quite painfully vitriolic. The Paracast forums themselves appear (to my brief experience) to be as dead as the proverbial dodo - with the exception perhaps of a few rather silly psuedo intellectial conversations between one member and JRM. Bit like two bald men fighting over a comb. Tech Night Owl seems to be completely brain dead - but that's an aside.

Anyway I think it's pretty clear that the decline and fall of the Paracast can only be attributed to the self-destructive behaviour of it's host and CO-founder (original idea being Mr.Biedny's) Mr.Steinberg. The internet is a wonderful tool - but it's a two edged sword if it's misused. The chickens have now apparently come home to roost!! I think your problem is going to disappear shortly of it's own accord.

JRM's own site openly admits that he lost all of his membership data some time ago and had to start again from scratch - I thought that was peculiar admission to say the least. Anyway I don't think he'll be l Night Owl ooking to acquire and run the Tech Night Owl franchise any time soon ! :)

Well this has been interesting - but it's about as far as I want to go now. Another sad chapter in this most curious of mysteries.

Best wishes to you all :)
 

nivek

As Above So Below
No Gene, ufology would be much better off with conmen like you gone, you have lied to, deceived, and scammed people for too many years and now that its come to light you turn it into some alleged hate group out to get you...The bs coming from you is astonishing...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Best wishes to you all :)

This forum is very active beyond this one thread, you are most welcome to get involved in the other discussions, awareness is important to keep Gene from scamming others who may not be aware of his treachery and deceit which is why this thread is here, for public awareness...It doesn't matter the field or study topic, there will always be a bad apple or two who will try to take advantage of people, we see it everywhere from the government level to discussion forums sadly but true...

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
some times while keeping track it is hard to pin public vs private. so I will keep track of public offerings to avoid any confusion.
public 10 just hit. at this point he has equaled his output of Jan 2018.
looks like 2019 will be a record breaking year.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Well what can I say? - that guy Steinberg is certainly instrasigent to say the least. I don't think that I could be accused of indulging in "hate talk" by asking a few questions in that Paracast forum - but it's now been locked down. No further postings permitted. Censorship for sure, imposed by someone who's clearly in denial - but obviously he must have whole shed load of problems. I've always found that it's best just to avoid "toxic people" and not engage them. It's obvious to me now that he is certainly is one.

Without even going into his past misdemeanors (I've no wish to) and speaking only of the here and now I think that anyone still willing receiving such messages let alone responding to them must be doing so willingly and does so at their own risk? Caveat Emptor! I find it incredible to believe that anyone would now fall for these.

Anyway I think its clear that the good ship "Paracast" is probably fatally holed below the waterline - and is at any rate listing badly. It will probably submerge entirely in the not too distant. A sad end to what was once (in he early days anyway) truly "The Gold Standard" :(

I took a look at the GCN site - not so many years ago the Paracast downloads from there ran into the thousands, now it's down to bearly to double figures!! I know that most people would use iTunes, but the GCN fall off is an interesting indicative. Also most of the recent iTunes feedback comments are quite painfully vitriolic. The Paracast forums themselves appear (to my brief experience) to be as dead as the proverbial dodo - with the exception perhaps of a few rather silly psuedo intellectial conversations between one member and JRM. Bit like two bald men fighting over a comb. Tech Night Owl seems to be completely brain dead - but that's an aside.

Anyway I think it's pretty clear that the decline and fall of the Paracast can only be attributed to the self-destructive behaviour of it's host and CO-founder (original idea being Mr.Biedny's) Mr.Steinberg. The internet is a wonderful tool - but it's a two edged sword if it's misused. The chickens have now apparently come home to roost!! I think your problem is going to disappear shortly of it's own accord.

JRM's own site openly admits that he lost all of his membership data some time ago and had to start again from scratch - I thought that was peculiar admission to say the least. Anyway I don't think he'll be l Night Owl ooking to acquire and run the Tech Night Owl franchise any time soon ! :)

Well this has been interesting - but it's about as far as I want to go now. Another sad chapter in this most curious of mysteries.

Best wishes to you all :)

You're lucky you didn't get banned. Normally he doesn't just lock threads he deletes every message, bans the people that made them and adds them to a master spam list which blocks them from using other forums that use the same software.

I also find it interesting that he still pretends that people can be removed from his begging list once they are on it. I have been removed (using his process) at least twice and yet somehow when he has another crisis I eventually start getting the messages again.

It is clearly misuse of people's personal details for his own gain but I suppose the fact that he thinks it is OK to read personal messages between members on the forum is and indication of how skewed his understanding of such things is.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Isn't this the entire paranormal field writ small? Believers and non-believers arguing over facts and theory and opinion while somewhere not too far away someone is sucking money out of our interest. Or trying to anyway.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
You're lucky you didn't get banned. Normally he doesn't just lock threads he deletes every message, bans the people that made them and adds them to a master spam list which blocks them from using other forums that use the same software.

I also find it interesting that he still pretends that people can be removed from his begging list once they are on it. I have been removed (using his process) at least twice and yet somehow when he has another crisis I eventually start getting the messages again.

It is clearly misuse of people's personal details for his own gain but I suppose the fact that he thinks it is OK to read personal messages between members on the forum is and indication of how skewed his understanding of such things is.
I agree. DavidVincent, you were lucky Steinberg didn’t ban you from the forums. He has a short fuse when you raise questions or contradict him in any way. Quite a few of us former members tried to hold Steinberg’s feet to the fire. He berated us and then banned us. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t miss the lying and nonsense that went on there.
 

DavidVincent

Honorable
well what's the worst that can happen? And at the end of the day as "Bogey" would say "it don't amount to a hill of beans" :)

I didn't realise that Gene was quite so old - he's really got himself into a pitiable state hasn't he? I think by now everyone is aware of the extent and history of his long standing "grifting" campaign and should anybody now consent or fall for it then more fool them. His past misdemeanors (which I don't really want to go in to) are obviously never going to be repaid and so are very much "sunk costs" for those affected. I do see much point in pursuing them much further really.

I think you guys have done sterling service in bringing these matters to light - but given the above - and especially his age maybe it might be best to ease up on him a little and let him alone to his Paracast hobby horse? Everyone needs some sense of purpose in life. Maybe just leave it to highlighting the ongoing grifting emails only, if that? It looks like the Paracast is pretty much a dead duck now in any event.

Now that Randle guy sure likes to pseudo-philosophise doesn't he? But again participation in the Paracast and his own site gives him some sense of purpose in life and he's essentially harmless. He seems a fairly kind well meaning sort of guy - even if he does try to defend the indefensible - but obviously he doesn't do it very well !
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
well what's the worst that can happen? And at the end of the day as "Bogey" would say "it don't amount to a hill of beans" :)

I didn't realise that Gene was quite so old - he's really got himself into a pitiable state hasn't he? I think by now everyone is aware of the extent and history of his long standing "grifting" campaign and should anybody now consent or fall for it then more fool them. His past misdemeanors (which I don't really want to go in to) are obviously never going to be repaid and so are very much "sunk costs" for those affected. I do see much point in pursuing them much further really.

I think you guys have done sterling service in bringing these matters to light - but given the above - and especially his age maybe it might be best to ease up on him a little and let him alone to his Paracast hobby horse? Everyone needs some sense of purpose in life. Maybe just leave it to highlighting the ongoing grifting emails only, if that? It looks like the Paracast is pretty much a dead duck now in any event.

Now that Randle guy sure likes to pseudo-philosophise doesn't he? But again participation in the Paracast and his own site gives him some sense of purpose in life and he's essentially harmless. He seems a fairly kind well meaning sort of guy - even if he does try to defend the indefensible - but obviously he doesn't do it very well !

I understand what you are saying but the main reason for highlighting this is not to harm Gene. It is to prevent other people getting conned - one poor fellow got conned out of $44K - this is not a victimless crime. Further by committing what amounts to charity fraud he actually diverts funds from genuine good causes and puts people off donating to them.

If he just shut up and stopped doing it nobody would pay him any further attention. The problem is he continues to use his fake crises to get money out of people and by using his "podcast" as a vehicle for it he defames the whole field.

Remember he is the one who will not leave us alone, not the other way around. Once you are on his email list it is almost impossible to get removed permanently. Some days I have received six messages from him.
 
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