Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

TKlaten

Adept
Did I mention how badly I want to avoid anything like Gene's fate in my own life?

a life he chose to pursue his full time job is begging the naive for cash thats his living a selfcentered fool taking advantage because people let him.
How much money can you make from begging?
A 2008 report stated that some Oregon beggars outside a Wal Mart make $100k per year / $300 per day. A beggar in Oklahoma City, OK makes $60k per year, or $30 per hour average.
 
It is truly baffling to behold.

I think for me at this point I just have to take Gene Steinberg as a cautionary tale and do everything I can do avoid a similar fate. I have a job that is not podcasting / Uber / Lyft, so that's a start I hope.

I don't know. It's just a mystery. Did I mention how badly I want to avoid anything like Gene's fate in my own life? Carry on, please. :)
My parents were the generation that grew up during the Great Depression. They drummed into us kids the need for security, since that was such a terrifying issue for that generation. My parents took it to extremes, and my mother would agonize about whether she should have her hair done in a beauty shop (usually the neighbor lady came over and gave her a permanent). Dad did all the car repairs and house maintenance. We NEVER ate out anywhere. We lived modestly within our means. My dad was a school teacher and my mom was the typical stay-at-home mother of the late 50's. So the family income was small.

I started saving money when I was in highschool and got a job at 16 in a bookstore. I worked all through college and kept saving money. Every paycheck had an automatic deduction to savings all my life. The fear of poverty, especially in old age, was deep within me, ingrained by every action my parents took (my mom would save 1 tablespoon of casserole as left-overs)! I am not that extreme, but I would always ask myself "How long could I live if I was fired tomorrow?" That never happened, but I had about 2 year's income saved up for such an emergency.

I was able to retire at the age of 54 due to my savings and live a modest but comfortable life. I left high-cost California for Phoenix, which caters to the elderly whereas California seems all about the young techies and yuppies.

I heard that the average American retires with less than $50,000 in savings. How long will that last? Yet these same people vote GOP, which is constantly trying to find excuses to cut social programs like Social Security and Medicare. Ironically, it seems that the more desperate people become financially, the more they vote right wing politicians into office who want to dismantle the New Deal safety net that was put into place to sustain (at a minimal level) the poor and elderly.

I am just very glad my folks taught me the value of saving for the future rather than constant immediate gratification.
 

UAPwatchdog

Honorable
I heard that the average American retires with less than $50,000 in savings. How long will that last? Yet these same people vote GOP, which is constantly trying to find excuses to cut social programs like Social Security and Medicare. Ironically, it seems that the more desperate people become financially, the more they vote right wing politicians into office who want to dismantle the New Deal safety net that was put into place to sustain (at a minimal level) the poor and elderly.

I am just very glad my folks taught me the value of saving for the future rather than constant immediate gratification.

That number of $50,000 is probably high at the point. Not to get political, but the sad thing is, Gene expresses liberal views, but is the type of person who gives anyone who wants reform a bad name. While in the grand scheme (pun intended) of things, his begging isn't causing societal collapse, its always his type that are pretty much an anecdotal dog whistle to entitlement. He's someone the rich establishment can point to and say, 'see! this guy is just gaming the system.' Anyone with logic knows that the money flows to the top higher than ever, and those people do it in boardrooms with mergers and stock manipulation - but all the Gene Steinberg's out there aren't helping any just cause for reform - they're as obnoxious and annoying as it gets.

And there's a part of me that sees the total irony of Gene's history shilling for AOL and Apple most of his life. Apple, one the biggest hoarders of wealth in human history, and AOL, maybe the worst anti-consumer company in modern history.
 
That number of $50,000 is probably high at the point. Not to get political, but the sad thing is, Gene expresses liberal views, but is the type of person who gives anyone who wants reform a bad name. While in the grand scheme (pun intended) of things, his begging isn't causing societal collapse, its always his type that are pretty much an anecdotal dog whistle to entitlement. He's someone the rich establishment can point to and say, 'see! this guy is just gaming the system.' Anyone with logic knows that the money flows to the top higher than ever, and those people do it in boardrooms with mergers and stock manipulation - but all the Gene Steinberg's out there aren't helping any just cause for reform - they're as obnoxious and annoying as it gets.

And there's a part of me that sees the total irony of Gene's history shilling for AOL and Apple most of his life. Apple, one the biggest hoarders of wealth in human history, and AOL, maybe the worst anti-consumer company in modern history.
To put this into another context, how about regular masculine guys who happen to be GAY always seeing themselves represented by effeminate freaks and drag show queens? When some Christian right spokesperson speaks of the horror of gay people, they always pull out some freak and then scare their audience almost to death. For every effeminate gay man talking with a lisp and seemingly missing bones in the wrists, there are a 100 masculine regular guys who easily pass for straight so they never are seen as the actual face of the so-called gay agenda. Back in the 80's when Rock Hudson was forced out of the closet, America was totally shocked because he didn't fit any stereotypes. At the time, I thought "For once America is seeing the truth, that gay people are everywhere and are indistinguishable from themselves".
 

UAPwatchdog

Honorable
You can't make this stuff up ...

A close encounter with the process server!
Hi,

At 2:30 PM Arizona time on Friday, the constable arrived, a burly man of medium-height who was ready to demand that we leave in 15 minutes. A maintenance person came to change the locks.

I protested, explaining that Barbara had major surgery on Tuesday, that she required bed rest and needed to avoid strenuous physical activity.

The constable was handed the discharge materials from the hospital, which he claimed not to believe. He then went on to assert that I had written numerous letters to the community manager and that, strange as it sounds, I also sent a flower truck with flowers for her in an attempt to persuade the complex not to evict us.

At most, I sent several emails explaining Barbara’s physical condition, offering to supply a physician’s letter asserting to her condition, and that was it! This is outrageous!

Perhaps the constable was just lying to us, or was misinformed. I don’t know.

After the constable spoke to Barbara, who was clearly in weakened condition, he agreed to let us stay the weekend. We have to be gone by Monday morning or he will have us forcibly removed. In Arizona, the constable is not just a process server but an officer of the court with wide authority and discretion.

Over the past few days, I contacted several charitable organizations, including a synagogue and a church, and they were not able to provide any help. I suspect they were just overextended.

A lawyer said I have to listen to the constable.

What this means is that we will have to leave regardless. I have already made a reservation at yet another cheap motel.

Where I go from there is anyone’s guess. It will be very difficult to convince another landlord to take us in after this. But I will try.

If you can help, I will do everything I can to find an affordable place to live — and a way to stay there.

If you can send a donation, please go to: Send Money, Pay Online or Set Up a Merchant Account - PayPal, login and use the Send to friends and family option. Enter my email address, gene@technightowl.com, and click or tap Next to continue the transaction.

PayPal now has a way to do instant transfers to a bank account for a 1% fe, so it’s the best way to help.

But I can also accept donations through Facebook Messenger and Apple Pay Cash via the Messages app. I’ve also established a Facebook fundraiser, but it takes at least 7 days for payment to be sent to my bank.

If you’re not able to send a donation, feel free to forward this message to someone who might assist.

If you have any questions about my situation, please don’t hesitate to write, and if you want more details about my lifestyle, please read this blog: Does Gene Steinberg live in the lap of luxury? | The Tech Night Owl — Cutting-Edge Tech Commentary

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Peace,
Gene
 
You can't make this stuff up ...
My heart bleeds for Gene. I hope on Monday he and Barbara are literally kicked in their asses to the gutter. This man is despicable. He constantly screws up his life and then begs for money to enable it for at least another week or so. Perhaps it is time for Gene to sell his interest in the Paracast (if that amounts to more than 25 cents) and use that money to put a roof over their head that isn't studded with rubies and diamonds. I do wonder what Gene considers a cheap motel, The Ritz Carlton?
 

UAPwatchdog

Honorable
Some notes on how strange this reads:

1 - This guy is supposedly fighting homelessness and still manages to make a completely bad alien joke out of the title of this

2 - He portrays this guy as some mob muscle when he's just trying to clear the deadbeats out of the place, and he's literally pushing for every second to stay somewhere while they're trying to change the locks on him

3 - Why did his wife go ahead with this surgery knowing what was coming? I'm guessing this was his ace up his sleeve, no way they can kick out someone 70+ years old who just got out of surgery right?

4 - I like how he point out he called both a synagogue AND a church, a man of true faith!

5 - I also like how he has now created a tone deaf blog to address his spending choices and how he resents others:
Does Gene Steinberg live in the lap of luxury? | The Tech Night Owl — Cutting-Edge Tech Commentary

He points out that he 'only' owns the cheapest model of a Volkswagon, with a Jetta, and doesn't mention the year - I mean how dense are you? Volkswagen ANYTHING recent year isn't exactly slumming it, you tool!

To compare some of the clunkers I rode around in the past decade: 91 Cutlass, 94 Astrovan, 95 Ford Mercury - all with about 200K miles or more on them that literally were driven until the engines were shot.

He also claims there's no rentals below $800. He has to pay 'association' fees. The air conditioning costs too much. He can't get Section 8 in his localities.

I pasted several pages ago Craigslist listings of apartments. There's 3000 results with a max rent of $700.
phoenix apts/housing for rent - craigslist

Yeah a lot may be generic blanket postings, but there's a TON there for even $600 or so! Here, $635 right here Gene:
Move in next friday!!

No, I don't know where the guy lives exactly, but if you're freaking HOMELESS and willing to spend probably $70 a night in a hotel, you can drive your sorry ass a few counties out to get Section 8 or find a cheaper place!

This guy is such a freaking idiot.
 
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If Gene is so poverty stricken that even Phoenix, considered a low cost city, is too expensive, then I suggest he and Barbara scrounge up enough money to get on a Greyhound Bus and move to some location where rents are literally dirt cheap. I am sure they could find some real deals in Alabama, Mississippi or Tennessee. I left my native home in California after an entire life time because I could no longer afford to live in California in the style I required. So did I just stay in California, move from 1 California rental to another, being evicted and hitting up strangers for money? No, I left the expensive state to a much cheaper place to live. Gene, you have no roots in Phoenix. No one here obviously knows or cares if you and Barbara are dead or alive. So if this is too expensive, then go to a cheaper part of the country. This is all so simple but Gene makes EVERY CHOICE (other than begging) seem like rocket science.
 
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UAPwatchdog

Honorable
If Gene is so poverty stricken that even Phoenix, considered a low cost city, is too expensive, then I suggest he and Barbara scrounge up enough money to live in the Deep South or some location where rents are literally dirt cheap. I am sure they could find some real deals in Alabama, Mississippi or Tennessee. I left my native home in California after an entire life time because I could no longer afford to live in California in the style I required. So did I just move from 1 California rental to another, being evicted? No, I left the expensive state to a much cheaper place to live. Gene, you have no roots in Phoenix. No one here obviously knows or cares if you and Barbara are dead or alive. So if this is too expensive, then go to a cheaper part of the country. This is all so simple but Gene makes it seem like rocket science.

I think he's replied before that moving costs are too much, its too straining to move, etc. Somehow he doesn't have anything worth a shit, but at the same time he's anchored to moving it some other place and pay movers for it. There's literally no logic in this guy's thinking, it falls apart upon even a little bit of scrutiny.
 
Perhaps Gene and Barbara need to rob a Circle K convenience store. At least they'd get room and board in a local jail. What do other old people do who have no savings? I don't see hoards of old people hanging out on street corners begging, so there must be some other options. Perhaps a spiritual institution would help Gene and Barbara if they had been active members for years and were known to the congregants. Perhaps friends would have helped Gene and Barbara if they had been friends to others in previous times. Perhaps they could go out into the deep desert of Arizona and meditate until aliens permanently abduct them? Sometimes I think Gene created the Paracast chiefly as leverage for begging. It beats standing in a subway playing a violin or doing a puppet show.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
This schemegenerc nut who has been tweeting Gene's emails thinks my links I post once a day are spam and asking me to stop spamming his threads...Seems to me its on topic and I only post to his threads once a day...His butthurts, I guess he is an attention seeker instead of genuinely wanting to help...UFO Trail Blog doesn't have a problem with me doing that on his twitter, I have been following them both...


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goblin

Noble
Some notes on how strange this reads:

1 - This guy is supposedly fighting homelessness and still manages to make a completely bad alien joke out of the title of this

2 - He portrays this guy as some mob muscle when he's just trying to clear the deadbeats out of the place, and he's literally pushing for every second to stay somewhere while they're trying to change the locks on him

3 - Why did his wife go ahead with this surgery knowing what was coming? I'm guessing this was his ace up his sleeve, no way they can kick out someone 70+ years old who just got out of surgery right?

4 - I like how he point out he called both a synagogue AND a church, a man of true faith!

5 - I also like how he has now created a tone deaf blog to address his spending choices and how he resents others:
Does Gene Steinberg live in the lap of luxury? | The Tech Night Owl — Cutting-Edge Tech Commentary

He points out that he 'only' owns the cheapest model of a Volkswagon, with a Jetta, and doesn't mention the year - I mean how dense are you? Volkswagen ANYTHING recent year isn't exactly slumming it, you tool!

To compare some of the clunkers I rode around in the past decade: 91 Cutlass, 94 Astrovan, 95 Ford Mercury - all with about 200K miles or more on them that literally were driven until the engines were shot.

He also claims there's no rentals below $800. He has to pay 'association' fees. The air conditioning costs too much. He can't get Section 8 in his localities.

I pasted several pages ago Craigslist listings of apartments. There's 3000 results with a max rent of $700.
phoenix apts/housing for rent - craigslist

Yeah a lot may be generic blanket postings, but there's a TON there for even $600 or so! Here, $635 right here Gene:
Move in next friday!!

No, I don't know where the guy lives exactly, but if you're freaking HOMELESS and willing to spend probably $70 a night in a hotel, you can drive your sorry ass a few counties out to get Section 8 or find a cheaper place!

This guy is such a freaking idiot.

Excellent points all.

There he is on Twitter crowing about his heroism: "I talked down a constable ready to evict us, and bought a couple of days before we have to leave."

AKA, he got his wife to come across sick enough that the constable allegedly allowed the pair of them three more nights in an apartment, none of which I am sure they will every pay for.

He really is entirely blind to the implications of any of his actions. We stole more free lodging! Huzzah! Next stop: a motel! And after that? Somewhere else we can't pay for! Yee-hah!

Again, I take no joy in any of this, but my mind boggles at how he's comfortable carrying on this way, even aggressively defending his crummy behavior. Maybe Gene is right about the pack of online haters to an extent, in that, I am really starting to despise the Steinbergs for their low ways and I doubt I'm alone in this.
 

Wade

Stare..... They are always staring
I have been pretty mum about the whole hulabaloo and will continue to do so except to say i finally quit listening to the show and stopped doing the automatic deposit via PayPal

It would be fair (exact actually) to say I haven't listened to the show in over a year but it wasn't a big drain on my funds and to be honest I never got around to doing the opt out near the end of his messages, actually I always felt it wouldn't be bad to know "what is it this time?" when the little icon popped up in on the phone because you usually knew what it was by the very first opening salvo..."CONSTABLE AT THE DOOR" but finally it was enough.

The bigger reason was Chris. As I mentioned several times I am here(was when it comes to the Paracast) because of Chris and decided that he would make use of the funds and I am really pulling for him to start chasing whatever little bugaboo is stirring up mischief in the SLV.

I belief Chris has said he still owns a piece of the action (The Paracast Property) and maybe he in the future will resurrect it but it would be better I think to get the TMV "brand(?)" attached and if Gene were ever to dis-associate from the show I'd think he'd want more money than the show's name would be worth
 
I am here to publicly say that I am signing off from THIS TOPIC. I have given my views countless times. Some of these comments were unnecessarily hostile and uncaring. I am sorry about that. For my continued spiritual survival, I have to let this topic go.
 
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