Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

Ottilie

Adept
He now has taken to facebook. He ask for 700 for car insurance. He needs thousands because he desperately needs dental work and his wife is suffering.
Soak that in.. He went to Facebook in an effort to get $7500.00

I am so close to being done there.
And the person responsible?
Gene Steinburg
The shadow knows!

If you are who I think you are, Shadow, are you personally acquainted with Gene? I mean in RL? If you are who I believe you are you have always indicated that you are a good friend of Gene's. Is that poetic license? Or do you actually know him - and if that is the case - what is the status of how he lives? Is he telling the truth? Do you know?
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I am here due to Nivek's post on UFO Trails. I, too, am a refugee from the Paracast Forums, though I haven't posted there for several months. Gene's begging always concerned me. I even spoke with him at length via pm's last summer. Was very direct about what I thought and tried to get him to see. I experienced him as slippery as an eel.

What has transpired since the summer - it's like a dam has broken. I've never seen such aggressive non-stop begging from him. I popped in a month ago or so to see what was happening and was amazed at both the now open controversy and the near total shut-down of the forum itself. There is hardly any posting whatsoever. One or two die-hard old-timers but I think they are just biding their time, watching.

Thankfully I found The UFO Trails blog and now here. Thank you. Lots to say about this. :cool:
hey there!
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
If you are who I think you are, Shadow, are you personally acquainted with Gene? I mean in RL? If you are who I believe you are you have always indicated that you are a good friend of Gene's. Is that poetic license? Or do you actually know him - and if that is the case - what is the status of how he lives? Is he telling the truth? Do you know?
Who am I?.
A good friend of Genes? Maybe a while ago. Do I know him in RL? No never met Gene!
Now the truth.
Seek the truth no matter where it leads.
It leads to genes door.
I have been used by gene.
I tried to help him
I have my own woes
I have a wife
5 kids
Not shy talking about them.
Do you now who I am?
Last clue
Vesvehighfolk
The shadow knows
 

Ottilie

Adept
Who am I?.
A good friend of Genes? Maybe a while ago. Do I know him in RL? No never met Gene!
Now the truth.
[,,,]
I have been used by gene.
I tried to help him
[...]
Do you now who I am?
Last clue
Vesvehighfolk
The shadow knows

Okay. Interesting. Do you think you will continue as an admin saying what you are openly? Gene is ruthless - he was with Pixel. It was bloody awful how he tried to discredit that individual. Ugly. If Gene goes after you it will not be pretty.

How is it that you are no longer a 'good friend' of Gene's? And how is one a 'good friend' without ever having met the man in person? Curious how you see your relationship.

P.S. Are you still an admin on the Paracast Forum?
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Okay. Interesting. Do you think you will continue as an admin saying what you are openly? Gene is ruthless - he was with Pixel. It was bloody awful how he tried to discredit that individual. Ugly. If Gene goes after you it will not be pretty.

How is it that you are no longer a 'good friend' of Gene's? And how is one a 'good friend' without ever having met the man in person? Curious how you see your relationship.

P.S. Are you still an admin on the Paracast Forum?
Ohh yes I am an admin at paracast.
How did this happen?
Why am I now doing this?
Simple he kicked Mike! Why? Because mike questioned him!
Because how the hell does some one
Get evicted
Live in a motel
Move in
Need to set up a server
Get hacked
Get phishing
Miss car insurance ..
All since March!
Yes! I am a admin why do I stay?
Because Chris asked me to stay!
I am the shadow
The shadow knows that I am
Bob Watson
 

Ottilie

Adept
Ohh yes I am an admin at paracast. How did this happen? Why am I now doing this?

You think Gene will let you stand as an admin with you not being 'loyal'? That's not Gene's pattern.

Simple he kicked Mike! Why? Because mike questioned him! Because how the hell does some one Get evicted Live in a motel Move in Need to set up a server Get hacked Get phishing Miss car insurance ...All since March!

What did Mike question? So curious. Mike was such a loyal supporter. When I was leaving the forum Mike was totally gung-ho behind Gene. What disillusioned him?

But Mike was gone as of January, not so? How could Mike question what was happening in March if he was gone in January? Unless you mean Mike questioned Gene's story in December/January? How did that happen? What did Mike question? The car crash? My last experience with Mike he was a rabid-dog defender of Gene - how did that change in a matter of 2-3 months?

I have heard that there were posters that went on one of Gene's begging threads questioning Gene, and all were banned, accounts suspended. Seems like there was a lot going on in the first few months of 2018 that scattered the troops. The forum is a shadow of itself. Even Randle decamped, I see.

Yes! I am a admin why do I stay? Because Chris asked me to stay! I am the shadow The shadow knows that I am Bob Watson

What does Chris have to do with the Paracast anymore? He claims he is gone. Unless he really is waiting for Gene to give it over to him? I really doubt Gene would do that. He's going to hold onto the Paracast forever. Chris would be better served starting up his own podcast and forum. Forget the Paracast.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
I was robbed in August my money collapsed. I never begged. Ever.
My wife and I went to work. My oldest took jobs. We recovered. I'm not out if the woods but my family stepped up .
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
You think Gene will let you stand as an admin with you not being 'loyal'? That's not Gene's pattern.



What did Mike question? So curious. Mike was such a loyal supporter. When I was leaving the forum Mike was totally gung-ho behind Gene. What disillusioned him?

But Mike was gone as of January, not so? How could Mike question what was happening in March if he was gone in January? Unless you mean Mike questioned Gene's story in December/January? How did that happen? What did Mike question? The car crash? My last experience with Mike he was a rabid-dog defender of Gene - how did that change in a matter of 2-3 months?

I have heard that there were posters that went on one of Gene's begging threads questioning Gene, and all were banned, accounts suspended. Seems like there was a lot going on in the first few months of 2018 that scattered the troops. The forum is a shadow of itself. Even Randle decamped, I see.



What does Chris have to do with the Paracast anymore? He claims he is gone. Unless he really is waiting for Gene to give it over to him? I really doubt Gene would do that. He's going to hold onto the Paracast forever. Chris would be better served starting up his own podcast and forum. Forget the Paracast.
It was January Mike asked gene about one his letters. Gene kicked him. He was the most loyal until he asked gene about his situation. Yes gene kicked 3 ppl for questioning him.
I highly suspect something.. I seen Genes behavior before the end was not pleasant .
 

Ottilie

Adept
It was January Mike asked gene about one his letters. Gene kicked him. He was the most loyal until he asked gene about his situation. Yes gene kicked 3 ppl for questioning him.
I highly suspect something.. I seen Genes behavior before the end was not pleasant .

You're not offering much detail, Shadow. What did Mike question? What scenario/story? Curious.

Big red flag if just questioning gets someone kicked. He must be lying through his teeth. Is there no one who knows Gene in RL?

What do you suspect? Regarding what?

I notice that you are a moderator here on this site. You are getting around. Also, you are from Wisconsin - I thought Bob Watson lived in Arizona. I am misinformed?
 

Ottilie

Adept
@The shadow Could you explain what happened with Pixel? I don't think you were an admin when that went down but it's a very fishy scenario. Very ugly. When Gene gets crossed - watch out! If what I think happened happened.
 

Ottilie

Adept
@The shadow You are being pressured by Steinberg. You intimidate too easily. I saw your capitulation. He's a bully. He has no right to silence you. Quite a drama unfolding over there on the Paracast Forums. I see you resigned and Gene deleted your resignation. He doesn't want you to talk about him in public. Why do you think he has any rights over you? He doesn't. Why do you think he's so afraid that he has to bully? Think about it. He's not a good person.
 

Ron67

Ignorance isn’t bliss!
Just joined having been a paracast member for a few years.The forums over there became toxic and resulted in us losing some of the best posters such as Mike and Randall.Im not sure what happened with Randall,I know Mike got into a heated discussion with Walter Bosley,which escalated into legal threats.I don’t know what transpired after that but Mike got a permanent ban.Chris O’brien is a big loss too and the shows recently have become dull and tired in my opinion.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Just joined having been a paracast member for a few years.The forums over there became toxic and resulted in us losing some of the best posters such as Mike and Randall.Im not sure what happened with Randall,I know Mike got into a heated discussion with Walter Bosley,which escalated into legal threats.I don’t know what transpired after that but Mike got a permanent ban.Chris O’brien is a big loss too and the shows recently have become dull and tired in my opinion.

Hello and welcome to AE...Hope you enjoy this place, we have some fine people here...q37
 

goblin

Noble
I have seen the comments here that Gene is OCD. Do we know this, has he said it?

It caught my eye because in more than one of the long discussions online about his begging emails, the behavior has been described as seeming to be compulsive. I don't think any mental health professionals have offered an opinion but, if he does indeed really have OCD, I wonder if the begging emails are some compulsive behavior on his part.

That said it certainly seems like he does need whatever money he can get. Which is sad, the guy is 73 years old, but I think a lot of people are in the same or similar situations.

I really am not a fan of people picking on him and getting him to drive around Mesa chasing a handout or the like. But I do think it's entirely legitimate and understandable for people to call attention to and discuss his overall weird behavior of begging for years and years, all the while framing it as some temporary critical emergency. Gene acts like any questioning or discussion of his crazy ways is a hate crime against him, which only makes him seem shadier, in my opinion.

Even worse I feel sure some of his claims are lies or exaggerations. I do not believe anyone hacked his Twitter account for example, and it seems incredible to think his bank accounts have been hacked or exploited multiple times. So for me this calls into question a lot of what he says, although, again, I can believe that he does need money. The evictions would seem to prove that. Although it was curious how recently he needed almost $700 for car insurance right away, and came up with the money somehow. Hard for me to believe anyone donated enough to him that same day to bail him out, makes me wonder if he didn't actually have the cash, or if he now doesn't have car insurance. Hopefully he has car insurance if he's going to continue to drive.

Who knows.

Gene is a mystery, and one I will not be assisting in any way.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I have seen the comments here that Gene is OCD. Do we know this, has he said it?

It caught my eye because in more than one of the long discussions online about his begging emails, the behavior has been described as seeming to be compulsive. I don't think any mental health professionals have offered an opinion but, if he does indeed really have OCD, I wonder if the begging emails are some compulsive behavior on his part.

That said it certainly seems like he does need whatever money he can get. Which is sad, the guy is 73 years old, but I think a lot of people are in the same or similar situations.

I really am not a fan of people picking on him and getting him to drive around Mesa chasing a handout or the like. But I do think it's entirely legitimate and understandable for people to call attention to and discuss his overall weird behavior of begging for years and years, all the while framing it as some temporary critical emergency. Gene acts like any questioning or discussion of his crazy ways is a hate crime against him, which only makes him seem shadier, in my opinion.

Even worse I feel sure some of his claims are lies or exaggerations. I do not believe anyone hacked his Twitter account for example, and it seems incredible to think his bank accounts have been hacked or exploited multiple times. So for me this calls into question a lot of what he says, although, again, I can believe that he does need money. The evictions would seem to prove that. Although it was curious how recently he needed almost $700 for car insurance right away, and came up with the money somehow. Hard for me to believe anyone donated enough to him that same day to bail him out, makes me wonder if he didn't actually have the cash, or if he now doesn't have car insurance. Hopefully he has car insurance if he's going to continue to drive.

Who knows.

Gene is a mystery, and one I will not be assisting in any way.

Hello, welcome to AE, hope you enjoy it here...q37
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
You're not offering much detail, Shadow. What did Mike question? What scenario/story? Curious.

Big red flag if just questioning gets someone kicked. He must be lying through his teeth. Is there no one who knows Gene in RL?

What do you suspect? Regarding what?

I notice that you are a moderator here on this site. You are getting around. Also, you are from Wisconsin - I thought Bob Watson lived in Arizona. I am misinformed?[/QUOTE. I live in Wisconsin not Arizona.
I live in Wisconsin I do not know what happened to pixil.
 
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