Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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  1. Standingstones

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    When I was 17 my Dad said that if I wanted to go to school I better get out and work. I got a series of shitty jobs to earn my school enrollment. So when I see a loafer like Steinberg ‘demanding’ that others support him and his wife, it rubs me the wrong way. There are plenty of people out there that truly need a helping hand. A person like Steinberg isn’t one of them.
     
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  2. Wade

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    I always wondered if there is a clinical (?) word for that, that is you tell yourself over and over something that is unsuitable to your ears that your convenienced that it is (or isn't true, it's ridiculous)

    I of course point to the infamous O.J. Simpson, I always wondered that he didn't convince himself he couldn't have done it , I'm O. J. Simpson .
     
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  3. Standingstones

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    Lyrics from ‘Boulevard’ by Jackson Browne...

    Nobody rides for free
    Nobody gets it like they want it to be
    Nobody hands you any guarantee
    Nobody
     
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  4. Wade

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    Maybe a Dissociative Disorders or something like that?
     
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  5. UAPwatchdog

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    I think that's my biggest annoyance with Steinberg. He likes to align his situation with societal events, or people in actual dire straights caused by freak events or poor opportunities. As if to say, "see, I can't help my situation, look at all these other events!"

    It makes me annoyed because I know there are honest people who get screwed over by an inequitable system in society, and there are deadbeats like Steinberg who are poster boys for someone to say 'see, heres a deadbeat who wants to game the system and look for a handout."

    Gene still gets more money doing NOTHING than the minimum wage fast food/retail/laborer does each year working 40 hours a week. Then he acts as if he's above doing the same work to supplement his income even a SLIGHT amount to pay for his ridiculous self-incurred expenditures.

    If I got $35K a year in a government check and sitting on my ass doing a UFO podcast, I would be grateful as possible and be glad to have something like that extra before I even had to actually work. Instead, for Gene, he sees it as just a percentage of his income that must be fulfilled by others paying the rest of the gap.

    Once again, fuck you Gene. It's people like you who cause the honest people to have to grind their entire life.
     
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  6. GhostofBiedny

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    Exactly I think you hit the nail on the head.

    Deadbeat is the perfect word, scrounger would be another one: - he is someone who is unwilling to do any real work and makes up all sorts of excuses as to why he can't.

    "I can't work those hours, I'm too old, I don't have the skills, it's too far, or more tellingly - it's beneath me."

    The thing is Gene's situation is not a result of misfortune, it is deliberate choice.

    He is the type of person who games the system and receives money that is there to help people who are in actual need through no fault of their own (as opposed to Gene who is in his situation through choice).

    His behaviour not only uses resources that would go to actual deserving people but it also taints the whole welfare system and stigmatises actual people in need who often get stained with the same brush in the tabloid press.

    That in itself would be bad enough but there are likely many people who do the same.

    What elevates Gene above these average deadbeats is that he uses his state funding to live beyond his means and then begs strangers to make up the shortfall by declaring continuous and wholly false crises.

    So on the one hand he is robbing the state and hence actual poor people who really need the help and on the other hand he is robbing his podcast listeners, family members and pretty much anyone he knows with his prolific begging.

    It seems there is no depth to which he will not stoop in order to keep funding his deadbeat lifestyle.

    Hell I heard the guy even rented out an apartment in his son's name which he subsequently didn't pay rent on (big surprise) and got evicted from. Since it was in his son's name, the stain was placed on the son's credit report.

    What kind of a person does that to their own kid?

    Perhaps that is why Grayson fled to Spain. If it was me I would try to get as far away from such a toxic father as possible to protect myself.

    Parent's are supposed to help you, not screw up your life so they can continue to be deadbeats.

    This gets back to the theme of Gene being like a teenager - basically the whole incident is the kind of thing that a kid would do using their parent's name.


    Gene Steinberg is like a teenager who never progressed into full adulthood (and a very immature one at that).

    He is stuck in a twilight world where he only pretends to take responsibility for things, but shifts the blame for everything (and hence responsibility for everything) on to everyone else.

    This includes the responsibility for looking after him (which in his world) is something that is everyone else's problem and not his.

    This allows him to justify all the crazy things he does to get money off others - in his mind he is owed that money so he feels no guilt or shame - even if he has to divert money from disaster victims.

    To any person of normal morality it is clearly disgusting and despicable. - To Gene it is business as usual.
     
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  7. UAPwatchdog

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    Looks like someone wants to delete their forum account:

    Question for admins or moderators

    And Gene cannot even accept THAT.

    I noticed the poster avoiding the obvious: that he's a scheming asshole who does nothing but argue with people and send begging spam.
     
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  8. Standingstones

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    I would have loved for the poster to have said that your forum is inhabited by hangers on and ass kissers. I'm sure that Steinberg would have deleted his account in mere seconds!
     
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  9. nivek

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    I wonder how long that thread would have remained if he said the other forum was Alien Expanse lol...

    ...
     
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  10. GhostofBiedny

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    This new appeal comes courtesy of SchemeGeneRC Twitter, apparently Gene has a private "suckers list" of people who have previously donated to him and he sent this out to them:

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  11. GhostofBiedny

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    Gene is outdoing himself. Now there is this "Important Friday Update!" on the Paracast Newsletter email list (seems to be a remix of the aforementioned private list letter along with some new stuff just for us):

     
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  12. GhostofBiedny

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    What a surprise. Who could have foreseen this happening? Gene never runs out of funds does he?

    Press the emergency button! It is a true disaster.

    Lol the payment for storing all the stuff he claims is either worthless or he doesn't have and darn those automatic payments.

    I'm sure Gene hates those because there is no way to weasel out of them.

    If his stuff is so worthless he should just get rid of it, if his possessions are so meagre (as he claims) it should cost next to nothing to store them.

    Again it points out the lies that Gene bases his whole life around.

    He can't afford to pay rent, yet he can pay to stay in motels for weeks AND pay to have his belongings in storage.

    He just can't weasel out of these payments like he can with his rent.

    I thought you already found a new apartment in that private message you sent out? Guy can't even lie consistently from one day to the next.

    Yes I can help by giving the following advice:
    1. Cut back on the fancy steak dinners, new cars, the latest gadgets and everything else beyond your means.
    2. Get a real job and stop wasting your time on a dead podcast and forum.
    3. Pay your rent.
    4. Stop begging strangers for money under false pretences.
    This is not news you have already told us about this multiple times and are continuing to milk it. The surgery was weeks ago you can't use it as an excuse forever.

    Yes her two problems are:
    1. Marrying a scammer who begs for money and refuses to pay rent.
    2. Not having the sense to leave him.
    I'm not sure there is treatment for either of those problems.

    You don't visit a chiropractor for "serious problems" - you visit a spinal surgeon or an orthopaedic surgeon.

    If not it is not a serious problem.

    - This is another example of Gene exaggerating in order to get money.

    Also as someone else pointed out previously it is bad enough that Gene expects us to pay for legitimate medical issues now he wants us to pay for extras like this.

    Of course it is a major problem for Gene because it is another situation where he will need to pay upfront without any opportunity to weasel out.

    - We all know how much it hurts Gene to actually pay a bill.


    I suppose next he will be asking for us to pay for spa visits and massages.
     
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  13. Standingstones

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    As I read Steinberg’s post, he seems to expect others to pay for his medical (tiny) co-pays. He really knows how to top himself!
     
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  14. Standingstones

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    He states that he can’t pay $20 for a chiropractic visit. I don’t believe that for a second. He feels that is beneath him and so his podcast members should pick up the tab.
     
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  15. GhostofBiedny

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    Paying for anything is beneath him it seems.
     
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  16. UAPwatchdog

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    As I recall, someone complained on his forums about being personally solicited for more money from Gene because he donated once. Basically Gene goes down the entire list of people who have ever donated to him to ask for more. What a piece of trash this guy is for doing that. He's like a wild animal, you start feeding him, and next thing you know he's rummaging through your trash.

    A couple other things, first, it's somewhat ironic Gene is going to a chiropractor when they themselves are unproven science. Glad he can spend money on quack therapy with no evidence of long term benefits, and ask people to cover the costs. There's plenty of free yoga instructional online, but that would require effort. Instead of a spinal adjustment, Gene needs a reality adjustment.

    Also, bonus points to whoever called Gene asking for storage funds soon. He can afford to goto a chiropractor and live in a hotel on a nightly basis, but hey, can someone pay for me to store my worthless shit? Here's a thought Gene, and it costs exactly $0.00: give it, or throw it away.

    I love how he phrases his bills in a third person view as well, as if he just came upon inclement weather or something. "the payment for storing our stuff is due." Not MY payment, *the* payment. He goes on to describe "the funds" and "the charge." As if he came upon some random transaction that must be paid by someone other than himself.

    Finally, I found it curious he says money is slower in the summer. What the hell is the difference in the winter when you don't work? Maybe he dresses up as Santa and lets all the kids kick him in the nads for five bucks a pop?

    If so, put me down for two Gene. I'm good for it.
     
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  17. Black Angus

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    Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums


    I will be LOL'ing all day
     
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  18. Ron67

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    Disappointing to see IsaacKoi still engaging with the paracast.Must be because lawyers like Koi and Kimball are used to dealing with nefarious characters.
     
  19. erickson

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    Don't blame it on the profession. Some of my clients over the years have committed crimes that put them on death row but I have my limits. There are events I do not attend if certain people are invited - which these days include most UFO conferences.

    Everyone has different boundaries about who they will associate with - from being on stage or the radio to supporting their work in other ways. Some people I otherwise like appear with George Noory. And some will probably continue to go on the Paracast even if it makes Gene seem more credible than he is.
     
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