Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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  1. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    Last year whilst in a generous mood and not knowing what I know now I sent Gene £20.Not a lot but better than nothing.He didn't have the decency to even thank me.When I pulled him up about this he said he thought he had thanked me.This told me a couple of things.He must have had too many contributions to thank everyone or he's incredibly ungrateful and £20 isn't enough.This is when I looked into Gene more closely and found out what a thoroughly unpleasant man he is.
     
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  2. SilentRunning

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    Well, as of this morning, that's $25 and change. That's a significant amount to me; in terms of my project (that's still in the planning stages) that would put you on the 3rd tier of rewards, granting a monthly 45 to 60 minute Tarot reading, and three spots in the monthly drawing for another, as well as getting your name mentioned on the air and placing any questions for Tuesday Night Talk guests on the priority list.I

    But that's me, and that's my future project. He probably dismissed it out of hand (Sure spent the money, though!) because it wasn't "five figures."
     
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  3. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    Keep us updated on your project.
    Regarding Gene,if even a small fraction of his then audience were as gullible as me then no wonder he lives above his legitimate means!
     
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  4. SilentRunning

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    Ron, just my two cents or tuppence, as it were; don't let this experience ruin your good heart. It sounds to me that you gave the money in good faith, out of concern. That's a good thing, friend, and there's nothing wrong with doing your best to help people up when they're down. Sure, this time, you got taken. But that's On HIM. That's not On you, friend. And I honestly believe that someday, he'll have to answer for it to a higher power.

    Re: project: Soon. I still have a lot of prep work to do. But thanks!
     
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  5. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    Cheers.Hes taken in smarter people than me.Plus I’m too old to change!!:Sneaky:
     
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  6. goblin

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    I don't think it's gullible; I could be wrong... I think it's human nature to want to help one another and I think Gene takes advantage of that.
     
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  7. goblin

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    Follow up thoughts to my earlier speculative post asking "why"... why would Gene (who now seems to be all about Gene) go to such lengths to help out Stephen Beizer?

    A court document at the UFO Trail blog mentions one of the victims at first being unwilling to talk to investigators because of fears. Hmmm. Was Gene afraid of, somehow bullied or controlled by Stephen Beizer?

    Or - an opposing thought I realize - were they actually friends, kindred spirits?

    As was already stated we'll likely never know; Beizer is believed to be deceased and Gene won't tell the truth.

    If Gene truly gave Beizer $200,000 as he told BlackAngus, then what happened to that money? Were Beizer's lawyers really that expensive? Was Gene essentially just taken in by whatever scams Beizer was running with the many thousands he got from his victims? Sorry, I know no one can say for sure, it's just all so odd I have to marvel at it 'out loud' a bit.
     
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  8. Double Nought Spy

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    The $200,ooo claim is just more bullshit. Look at the judgements against Gene long before his family's plight bubbled to the surface. Is that a guy with any life savings at all? Is that a guy who could possibly give a relative even a tenth of that amount?

    Beizer appears to have been an evil bastard. Maybe Gene was really afraid of him, but it seems more likely to me that he was just doing everything he could to cover his own sorry ass.

    Gene plays the family card often. What kind of family is this? What did Gene do when Beizer was abusing and robbing his father-in-law? The guy was Gene's father-in-law too. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    The funniest part, for me, is Gene still trying to claim he knew very little of Beizer's business dealings. He still seems to be trying to cling to the fiction that he didn't know Beizer was on the lam in Vegas. He thinks he has plausible deniability, but you'd have to be a moron to believe his version of events.
     
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  9. goblin

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    It is very hard for me to imagine Gene ever had $200,000. Unless he was hoarding his money and avoiding paying any bills or judgments, which people have speculated could be the case. But then handing that hoard to someone else seems contradictory. I have to come down on the side of, he never had $200K to loan to anyone.

    There is that $44,000 personal loan in Gene's bankruptcy filing, and the (iirc) $38k judgment against Gene to consider; I believe Gene claimed the latter went to the Stephen Beizer black hole fund. As for the $44,000 that Gene wrote off in the bankruptcy, who knows the awful story behind that one.

    And I agree with you that Gene's claim he was ignorant of Beizer's scams is just another lie. But yes indeed what in the hell kind of family were / are they? I feel bad for the children.
     
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  10. GhostofBiedny

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    I agree with that. He seems to be someone who has never worked a real job in his entire life and he has multiple instances of bad debt on his record that had to be written off going back decades.

    The only way he could ever have that kind of money is if he won it on the lottery and if he did there is absolutely no way in hell he would ever use that money to help anyone else (family member or not).

    Remember this is a guy who has taken out bad debts in his own son's name - thereby ruining his credit file. If he has so little regard for his own flesh and blood, it is inconceivable that he would care more for someone who is just a relative by marriage.

    There is only one person Gene would ever help and that is Gene.

    The $200K was just another fabrication to help him and his partner in crime (Bezier) get more sympathy so that they could squeeze more money out of people.
     
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  11. GhostofBiedny

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    Looks like the David Biedny made an appearance to thank Jack on his post:

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  12. Trained Observer

    Trained Observer Paranormally Disenchanted

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    Most, if not all of those people were personally warned off many years ago and it didn't matter then, I don't think anything will change now. I cannot imagine why anyone would post to that forum, listen to, or appear on the show given what has been publically known for years. Yet they do. Draw your own conclusions about what that means.
     
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  13. Toroid

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    Welcome to AE. :)
     
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  14. GhostofBiedny

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    Of course Gene had to make a begging appeal with an appropriately dramatic and misrepresentative title following the UFO trail revelations, liars have to lie and conmen have to keep conning I suppose:

    - "Now they're going after my relatives!":
    The guy has no shame. Despite all the evidence that disproves his bullshit, he still keeps spinning himself and his brother in law as victims rather than the despicable, scumbag criminals that they are.
     

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  15. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Hello and Welcome to AE...q37

    Well said and I agree, even Randall accepting a position recently as admin of that forum speaks volumes to me...

    ...
     
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  16. GhostofBiedny

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    It should be noted that the "legal jam" here is Stephen stealing and defrauding hundreds of thousands of dollars of money from elderly people, one of whom was his father in law who was seriously ill it the time and unable to look after himself.

    Some of the victims were so scared of him that they refused to testify. Gene painted one of the victims as a "vengeful woman" who was victimising Stephen and his family - when she was trying to get back almost $200K that had been stolen from her.

    (This also makes me think that when Gene was talking of lending 200k to Stephen in his begging emails if he was actually seeking donations to pay of the restitution to this very woman which he had been ordered to pay, but never did get paid.)

    Anyway this is the calibre of man that Gene thought was worth defending then and continues to defend now. Any doubt that Gene was some kind of patsy in all this must surely evaporate now.

    He is defending a criminal who stole from the most vulnerable people. I have no pity for him or his disgusting BIL - they both belong in jail.

    Bezier may have escaped justice through death but Gene is still around and still conning and lying.
     
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  17. goblin

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    Hard to say for sure I suppose but I really think he would've been wiser to ignore this. Anyone who actually pays attention to the blog post will be able to see Gene's claims do not hold up. Amazing to me that Gene is STILL trying to defend and downplay the crimes of Stephen Beizer. Unbelievable.
     
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  18. GhostofBiedny

    GhostofBiedny Celestial

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    Randall has killed any credibility he ever had and for what? A position on a dead podcast and forum working as a lackey for a shameless conman. Pathetic really.
     
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  19. GhostofBiedny

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    It should also be noted that there are public records showing that Gene's financial problems and unpaid debts go back to at least the early 1990s. As always the guy never misses an opportunity to lie.
     
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  20. Wade

    Wade Stare..... They are always staring

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