General Relativity Proves HV Lifters' Create Significant Space-Time Curvature

[waitedavid137]

If it was a static electric field, than all you need is capacitor. There is very little power moving about, one just turns it on and off. Contrary to that, if it was time varying electric field, that would need huge power, because one would be constantly pushing and pulling. Power is not a major issue, since one can make quite small fission reactors, since 60s and 70s. It's more about materials.

In part true, but in application, significant acceleration will correspond to significant electrical blead across the gap. It does require a power source.

 

[waitedavid137]

Don't know about secrecy too much . There is quite a lot about NORAD in public domain and on the Internet. And few of us here are devoted to reverse engineering UFO propulsion, so please DO NOT tell us, so not to spoil the plot

There is a webpage somewhere with a Congressional report with a full breakdown of NORAD's capabilities. Basically NORAD can track football size objects, with telescopes and radars, from a geostationary orbit all the way down to one's backyard. So it's only natural that they would be in the loop. Radars followed all the Apollo space program crafts to the Moon and back, so relatively speaking, that's standard issue tech. Just with simple understanding of technology and some cross-referencing of various UFO stories that nobody pays attention to, one can learn that NORAD 1) Tracks UFOs, 2) actively distributes information to allies if UFO is going to land inside their territory, 3) sends teams to monitor and clean up. But, general public would never believe that, anyway.

One interesting thing that comes from the fact that NORAD distributes UFO paths to allies is that means that UFOs actually fly along ballistic paths towards the Earth. That sageways into other research that suggests that UFOs arrive and leave Earth when Moon is in certain position so that Moon's gravity help reduce energy required. I forgot how it works, but basically on arrival UFOs use Moon for braking, and on leaving UFOs use Moon for accelerating them out of Earth's gravity field. It somehow suggests that UFOs are not steerable, kind off, don't have propulsion as such and are just launched in a certain direction and follow inertial paths, more or less like satellites do. Just some observations.

Actually there were capabilities that were not released to the public. They don't tell you things like oxygen tanks can be inserted in planes like the black bird turning them into space planes with still classified top speeds, or that we found that pressure change detectors on high altitude balloons used to determine what magnitude the nukes of the soviets being tested were accidentally led us to a means of detecting when something jumps directly into our atmosphere. They don't tell you that satellites with neutron detectors can tell you where nukes are and as such if a suitcase dirty bomb ever goes off here, it was allowed to happen, or that we can use infra red detectors on them to determine if what type of planes are incoming even if they are masking their squawking by tightly escorting jet liners, or that their imagery is good enough to read a newspaper on the ground. There's a lot that most of us don't know. My father died a few years back, which I wish he hadn't, but now if I let a few things slip that I never signed nondisclosure to because they came from him, not them, they can't do anything about it.

 

[Dejan Corovic]

Here is a very rare UFO case where a fully qualified electrical power distribution engineer was UFO witness, in Ontario, Canada. Himself and few other witnesses observed the craft for few minutes. In the video, this engineer, explains how he used distinctly colored dark violet Hydrogen plasma, resulting from vapor in the air, around the craft to estimate power emitted by dumbbell shaped double hull UFO. It wasn't that much, about 14 railway electrical locomotives, for one of the two dumbbells.

I than went and searched Wikipedia about project Nerva and others, on which Stanton Freedman worked, back in 60s and these kind of 'pocket' fission reactors can produce the power that electrical engineer was talking about.



Actually, I can tell you more. There is strong trend in UFO cases to have both high pitched whining noise coming out of UFO as well as dripping molten metal. Molten metal is used in all kinds of thermometric plants because molten metal is better for heat transfer than water steam. So there you are, pocket nuclear reactor and molten metal ( or salt ) turbine and off you go to the stars.

 

[waitedavid137]

Actually there were capabilities that were not released to the public. They don't tell you things like oxygen tanks can be inserted in planes like the black bird turning them into space planes with still classified top speeds, or that we found that pressure change detectors on high altitude balloons used to determine what magnitude the nukes of the soviets being tested were accidentally led us to a means of detecting when something jumps directly into our atmosphere. They don't tell you that satellites with neutron detectors can tell you where nukes are and as such if a suitcase dirty bomb ever goes off here, it was allowed to happen, or that we can use infra red detectors on them to determine if what type of planes are incoming even if they are masking their squawking by tightly escorting jet liners, or that their imagery is good enough to read a newspaper on the ground. There's a lot that most of us don't know. My father died a few years back, which I wish he hadn't, but now if I let a few things slip that I never signed nondisclosure to because they came from him, not them, they can't do anything about it.

I suppose I could tell you the story of how he was promoted to his position near the head of space systems command to give you an idea what kind of people they are. They sometimes do war games without informing the participants that it is a drill. You want to be sure that the folks in the silos will turn the key and that's how you do it. He was a commander at Falcon AFB and was told WWW III had started. There came a point where he was told that protested were starting to scale over the fence. He ordered that the protesters be shot. They apparently liked that.

 

[Shadowprophet]

It's believed that particle accelerators could generate more power then they consume,

Particle Accelerators Could Work As Power Generators
Sometimes, I miss little details, But could not a custom-built series of particle accelerators be considered for a power supply?

 

[waitedavid137]

Here is a very rare UFO case where a fully qualified electrical power distribution engineer was UFO witness, in Ontario, Canada. Himself and few other witnesses observed the craft for few minutes. In the video, this engineer, explains how he used distinctly colored dark violet Hydrogen plasma, resulting from vapor in the air, around the craft to estimate power emitted by dumbbell shaped double hull UFO. It wasn't that much, about 14 railway electrical locomotives, for one of the two dumbbells.

I than went and searched Wikipedia about project Nerva and others, on which Stanton Freedman worked, back in 60s and these kind of 'pocket' fission reactors can produce the power that electrical engineer was talking about.

The best actually publicly known power source for such a thing would be a nuclear thermo electric piezo electric effect generator. It works something like how those fans you set on top of wood stoves do. The temperature gradient excites the piezo electric crystals into producing voltage.

 

[Dejan Corovic]

The best actually publicly known power source for such a thing would be a nuclear thermo electric piezo electric effect generator. It works something like how those fans you set on top of wood stoves do. The temperature gradient excites the piezo electric crystals into producing voltage.

Yeah, I calculated about 40 MV of voltage for hear thin wire, to achieve electric field you were talking about. To get close to that level any piezo crystal material will break apart.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Wait, Quartz, If you Squeeze quarts it produces an electric current. It makes sense to me that a strong enough gravitational field could make quartz produce power. There may be a voltage limit I am unaware of though.

And Still, yet, There may be elements that perform the job much more fantastically than quartz possibly a metamaterial.

 

[waitedavid137]

Yeah, I calculated about 40 MV of voltage for hear thin wire, to achieve electric field you were talking about. To get close to that level any piezo crystal material will break apart.

I wasn't suggesting using the voltage across the crystals for propulsion. I meant use that kind of nuclear-electric generator as a power source.
You can easily invert and rectify voltages to run anything electrical you want for your systems and simply use a transformer to step up the voltage and then rectify it for your propulsion.

 

[Dejan Corovic]

Actually there were capabilities that were not released to the public. They don't tell you things like oxygen tanks can be inserted in planes like the black bird turning them into space planes with still classified top speeds, or that we found that pressure change detectors on high altitude balloons used to determine what magnitude the nukes of the soviets being tested were accidentally led us to a means of detecting when something jumps directly into our atmosphere. They don't tell you that satellites with neutron detectors can tell you where nukes are and as such if a suitcase dirty bomb ever goes off here, it was allowed to happen, or that we can use infra red detectors on them to determine if what type of planes are incoming even if they are masking their squawking by tightly escorting jet liners, or that their imagery is good enough to read a newspaper on the ground. There's a lot that most of us don't know. My father died a few years back, which I wish he hadn't, but now if I let a few things slip that I never signed nondisclosure to because they came from him, not them, they can't do anything about it.

Yeah, they don't tell you that stuff, but that's actually pretty old tech, from 80's and 90's. Hubble telescope is actually repurposed spy satellite, which scientists nicked from some of many US spy agencies. If one turns Hubble down towards the Earth he probably can read papers with it.

Infra red pods on regular military jets can easily magnify objects out at 40 miles. So pilots can zoom in on jet liner and check if any military jets are following it.

That's not even very sophisticated tech.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I wasn't suggesting using the voltage across the crystals. I meant use that kind of nuclear-electric generator as a power source.
You can easily invert and rectify voltages to run anything electrical you want for your systems and simply use a transformer to step up the voltage for your propulsion.

I need to keep up better apparently crystals were a thing, after all, lol My bad.

 

[waitedavid137]

Wait, Quartz, If you Squeeze quarts it produces an electric current. It makes sense to me that a strong enough gravitational field could make quartz produce power. There may be a voltage limit I am unaware of though.

And Still, yet, There may be elements that perform the job much more fantastically than quartz possibly a metamaterial.

You know what strikes me as humerous is that in hoaky new ager circles crystal power is a thing everyone laughs at, but in physics there really is such a thing as crystal power. We just give it a fancier name of the piezo electric effect.

 

[waitedavid137]

Yeah, they don't tell you that stuff, but that's actually pretty old tech, from 80's and 90's. Hubble telescope is actually repurposed spy satellite, which scientists nicked from some of many US spy agencies. If one turns Hubble down towards the Earth he probably can read papers with it.

Infra red pods on regular military jets can easily magnify objects out at 40 miles. So pilots can zoom in on jet liner and check if any military jets are following it.

That's not even very sophisticated tech.

That's the time frame that he was in space systems command and so that's the stuff I can tell you about.

 

[Dejan Corovic]

The only problem with this high voltage UFOs is that in witness testimonials UFOs quite often hover close to the ground or close above treetops and never induce sparks to the ground. That is a mystery.

As well, there is a lots of documentation about electro-magnetic effects associated with UFOs and they are nearly always alternating fields. Witnesses often report static noise on the radio, which comes from time varying fields. In one well publicised case EM radiation from UFO was measured with the best electronic instruments available at that time, and it was all alternating fields.

 

[Shadowprophet]

The only problem with this high voltage UFOs is that in witness testimonials UFOs quite often hover close to the ground or close above treetops and never induce sparks to the ground. That is a mystery.

As well, there is a lots of documentation about electro-magnetic effects associated with UFOs and they are nearly always alternating fields. Witnesses often report static noise on the radio, which comes from time varying fields. In one well publicised case EM radiation from UFO was measured with the best electronic instruments available at that time, and it was all alternating fields.

My assumption is the current is somehow artificially grounded to some very strong force and this could complete a circuit so profoundly that it just won't arc? Idk That's guesswork.

 

[waitedavid137]

The only problem with this high voltage UFOs is that in witness testimonials UFOs quite often hover close to the ground or close above treetops and never induce sparks to the ground. That is a mystery.

As well, there is a lots of documentation about electro-magnetic effects associated with UFOs and they are nearly always alternating fields. Witnesses often report static noise on the radio, which comes from time varying fields. In one well publicised case EM radiation from UFO was measured with the best electronic instruments available at that time, and it was all alternating fields.

Why assume all UFOs are the same tech from the same group? Anyway, when Travis Walton stood to close to his, he did get zapped just as sure as if he was a lightning rod.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Why assume all UFOs are the same tech from the same group?

Hmm, I'm compelled to ask, in your opinion, Why are there here? What is it of us that interests them? It can't be our technology or sociopolitical views, I highly doubt it's our civilization. What do you suppose draws different groups of beings here? simple curiosity?

 

[Dejan Corovic]

Why assume all UFOs are the same tech from the same group?

I never assumed that. But taking that laws of physics are the same in the whole Universe, it would come that all UFOs are achieving the same physics, but with different technologies, according what they have on their disposal. That's even obvious from witness testimonials because these spacecrafts come in big variety of shapes and sizes, but following similar overall, should I say electro-magnetic, patterns.

If you are interested, very few people know that lots of scientists and engineers had been stuyding UFOs for nearly 70 years. Here I published all the data and papers that originate from scientists and engineers:

List of Technical Papers Related to UFOs and Electro Magnetism

 

[Shadowprophet]

I never assumed that. But taking that laws of physics are the same in the whole Universe, it would come that all UFOs are achieving the same physics, but with different technologies, according what they have on their disposal. That's even obvious from witness testimonials because these spacecrafts come in big variety of shapes and sizes, but following similar overall patterns.

If you are interested, very few people know that lots of scientists and engineers had been stuyding UFOs for nearly 70 years. Here I published all the data and papers that originate from scientists and engineers:

List of Technical Papers Related to UFOs and Electro Magnetism

Well, I disagree with that point, Sure the laws of physics as we understand them are universal, But different cultures would possess different understandings and arrive at different conclusions and possibly different technologies as well,

If five guys build five different cars you would have five very different vehicles, some would even function with different combustion principals and posses different technologies. different navigation methods, Different fuel consumption, So the need would arise for different technologies to drive these systems that would not be interchangeable between the five cars.

More to the precise point, I don't believe all Ufo's would prepulse using the same principle.

I could be wrong, I have yet to test drive a UFO.

 

[waitedavid137]

Hmm, I'm compelled to ask, in your opinion, Why are there here? What is it of us that interests them? It can't be our technology or sociopolitical views, I highly doubt it's our civilization. What do you suppose draws different groups of beings here? simple curiosity?

I'm sure different groups have different interests. What I can tell you is that my dad told me that they have different mentalities. That the ones that come in triangles have an almost Klingon mentality. If you're a jet fighter and lock on to them, they won't hesitate to shoot you down. He said that we are under a territorial protection agreement from them by those that come in disks and that we asked the ones that come in those not to announce their presence to the planet yet as we weren't ready for that yet. He said that one group of them came to visit our planets nuclear silos and did something electrical to the systems. They think that they did something electrical to the ICBMs to keep them from going nuclear to keep us from destroying ourselves. He said that those most commonly involved in abductions are likely not a part of those groups from space, but are thought to be interdimensional. He said that cattle mutilations aren't us as we just buy our own animals for experimentation. Other than the things he told me, I don't know about their motives.