Genuine Contactee?

1963

Noble
sorry. I should have looked for more sources before posting HOAX ALERT: Tiny time traveler’s watch is not real (UPDATED)
just another hoax... :cry:
Lol... don't worry we've all been there Ida. :Thumbsup:
But I do think that it would be a good idea for you to start an 'Ooparts' thread.
They are always pretty interesting, and every site [well most] seem to have them. I checked with the AE site search engine and couldn't find any old ones tucked away . So why not put a couple of your favourite articles together and start one over on the unexplained mysteries branch for all to read and join in. My personal favourites are the Bagdad batteries, and the Antikythera mechanism that I first learned about on the old Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world t.v programme 40 years ago. … [god that was a great programme for a young 'smart n' good-looking man to grow up with.:lovely: ]

Cheers Ida.
 

Ida G

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Lol... don't worry we've all been there Ida. :Thumbsup:
But I do think that it would be a good idea for you to start an 'Ooparts' thread.
They are always pretty interesting, and every site [well most] seem to have them. I checked with the AE site search engine and couldn't find any old ones tucked away . So why not put a couple of your favourite articles together and start one over on the unexplained mysteries branch for all to read and join in. My personal favourites are the Bagdad batteries, and the Antikythera mechanism that I first learned about on the old Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world t.v programme 40 years ago. … [god that was a great programme for a young 'smart n' good-looking man to grow up with.:lovely: ]

Cheers Ida.

Very good idea :) I figured after writing that I should rather practice my intuitions/ psychic - whatever anyone want to name it - and get a really strong sense of truth, so all hoax articles automatically are sorted out of my brain and the true stories are coming to me like magnets. Worked very fast. This actually is to find on google Earth and continue to be a mystery. And there actually is something looking like an UFO. I Spent time on google Earth trying to find the truth. Very happy.

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The main focus for me is to find a haunted/paranormal item, doll, artifact. Anything my body react suspicious upon, and place it before a camera with night vision. The camera is coming here next week. And finding right item takes much energy. The travel and stores to visit or places to go takes energy too. Hopeful i find it on a playground where someone have lost their toy. This evening there was a child bottle on the ground. But I let it stay. Feels like stealing otherwise.
It takes much focus finding what city to travel to, or what place to go.

A new thread seems tempting, but I think I should wait until finished with the project.
Love to read and learn others opinions and get new knowledge :emoji_cartwheel:

Thank you! :)
 

Ida G

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Freaky. Honestly I am too scared to have any haunted things in here. Already sleep bad at night cause of a vision of a dead person walking over my bed each night. Seems to be from ww2. Loved to do evil. iiik. It is luckly just vision and not physical there.

Well. that is not alien contactee. That is ghost contactee.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
To closes thing to scientifically provable extrasensory perception were actually dogs, not humans.

There is a guy called Rupert Sherdlike who did experiments with dogs and BBC did a documentary about that. Like the very moment when dog's owner would step into a taxi 5 miles away, dog, who would stay at home, would run to the window again, and again. A skeptic said: "It must be that dog was hearing taxi doors being shut." As if that town was full of taxies slamming doors all the time. And how's dog going to hear it from 5 miles away.
 

Ida G

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To closes thing to scientifically provable extrasensory perception were actually dogs, not humans.

There is a guy called Rupert Sherdlike who did experiments with dogs and BBC did a documentary about that. Like the very moment when dog's owner would step into a taxi 5 miles away, dog, who would stay at home, would run to the window again, and again. A skeptic said: "It must be that dog was hearing taxi doors being shut." As if that town was full of taxies slamming doors all the time. And how's dog going to hear it from 5 miles away.

Love that. Animals are really good at telepathy. Dog Mysteriously Wanders to Neighbor's House Exactly When Most Needed - Good News Network
This is a very good story! :)

Mums dog too. Mum was out in the forest alone with her beloved in another place of the forest (hunting). Suddenly something happened and all she got was a dog that would run for a deer. But for the first time her dog just stood with her all the way until her beloved found her. They know.
 

Ida G

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Lol. Maybe I should start my own thread on how to find the paranormal item. Today i am visiting grandma. She lives outside Oslo, so i started searching for paranormal items. I actually in mind look for a lion and know another store far from here, but no time now, so i walked to antique store where yhey collrct owls, books and maps. On a shelf far up there was this book luring " Deus Irea" by Philip K. Dick and Roger Zelazny.
I went down and bought it. It was extremly expensive for a pocket book. The lady told " Yes. It is a collector book. Read it carefully.

Will the pages mysteriously move at night?
 

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Rick Hunter

Celestial
I am really enjoying this thread. It just shows how there really is no border between religion and the paranormal, just alot of disputed territory!
 

1963

Noble
Just thought I would drop this link in here...

The 1950s Flying Saucer Conventions at an Underground Rock House

…… as I say, that in my humble opinion I do not see any evidence of there ever being a genuine contactee. [in the sense that we are discussing] .. even so I have to admit that these kind of ETH-shindigs are something completely 'alien' to someone like me. Where like minded gentle souls gather in the hopes of learning something about the topic that they all clearly love … and of course to generally have a good time and let off steam with commensurately minded friends.
And it might sound strange or a little whimsically-minded to some, … but i'm sad that this wasn't a part of my own formative years. :( … would it have changed my discernmental-cognitive-skills? … i'd like to think not... but then again, who knows? lol.

edit to add... that I just wish that a dirty big genuine Flying Saucer touched down for just long enough for all of these grand peaceful folk to have a good gander at.

Cheers.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Just thought I would drop this link in here...

The 1950s Flying Saucer Conventions at an Underground Rock House

…… as I say, that in my humble opinion I do not see any evidence of there ever being a genuine contactee. [in the sense that we are discussing] .. even so I have to admit that these kind of ETH-shindigs are something completely 'alien' to someone like me. Where like minded gentle souls gather in the hopes of learning something about the topic that they all clearly love … and of course to generally have a good time and let off steam with commensurately minded friends.
And it might sound strange or a little whimsically-minded to some, … but i'm sad that this wasn't a part of my own formative years. :( … would it have changed my discernmental-cognitive-skills? … i'd like to think not... but then again, who knows? lol.

edit to add... that I just wish that a dirty big genuine Flying Saucer touched down for just long enough for all of these grand peaceful folk to have a good gander at.

Cheers.
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Ida G

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UFO BOMBSHELL: Man has been in contact with ALIENS and NASA KNOWS – shock claim
This photo to Billy Meier look very much like this "
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The tapestry of summer triumph from 1538.
And it is not the only art where "UFO" are depicted. I have no problem believing in Alien Contactee. It seems very logical to me. I have bought a UV light to see fluorescent. Need the light to see the beautiful pattern on seashell or on other things in nature. Why should aliens consist of the same material as us?

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Meteorite or UFO?
 

Ida G

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Forgot to write that I have hard time believing in the truth of the picture of Billy Meier. But I ment the classical UFO phenomene is also depicted in paintings long ago.
 

Ida G

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Creep! That book could actually be haunted.
Filmed with my other laptop with a maximum filming time of three hour. And no night vision so light must be on. I walked into the room many time. Looked at the laptop if it was still filming. And there were no shadow after me. Then at 2.34 a shadow walks in the room. And this morning the charger in the laptop was out.
More research needed.
If it is haunted, anyone can have it to see with own eyes. You can give address to the post office so i do not know about it, and they will anonymously write the address to avoid any privacy problem. Zero prob. :)


Dolls could have much jealously and dangerous energy in them, therefore i try to avoid dolls.

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Dejan Corovic. God is not necessary the almighty. The meaning of God could have multiply meanings. In any ancient text we need to know how the word God was used at that time.
And be critic to translations.
An american man on a volcanic Island was looked upon as God by the people cause he saved them and did them good.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
How do you know she was not self-inducing borderline epileptic fit? Epileptic people can have very strong visions and it's simply an illness.

I was making my observational conclusions from my own senses, not by her actions and words...

How was that "presence" manifesting, was there any physical effect?

Not necessarily physical effects, if there was any physical effects they were minimal...This entity manifested around her and stayed in constant contact with her physical body and energies...I saw this quite clearly as I have before...

Where you yourself hearing any vices during sessions?

The only sounds it made were through her, speaking through her, which that in itself is not enough to make proper observational conclusions, the other non-physical aspects and my own sight combined over a few months of my attendance with her group is how I based my judgement...

I tried a couple of times to set up a private session with her and the entity as she offered this but both times she fell ill and canceled our appointment...Soon after that I left that region and never saw her again...

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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
The strongest scientific proof that I know is that what Rupoert Sheldrake talks about, but it's with dogs and people, not just people and people. Unfortunately, majority of scientists are not taking him without prejudice, although these experiments would be easy to repeat. Sheldrake said that he has 1,600 dogs and cats on his database with documented and filmed cases.

I guess it's turn of the people who are into paranormal (I am just curious observer) now to start filming dogs with timestamps as Sheldrake did and collecting evidence. Videos are cheap nowadays.

Dogs will make even better proof than people, because people can fake things so much better and are more believable.
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I was making my observational conclusions from my own senses, not by her actions and words...



Not necessarily physical effects, if there was any physical effects they were minimal...This entity manifested around her and stayed in constant contact with her physical body and energies...I saw this quite clearly as I have before...



The only sounds it made were through her, speaking through her, which that in itself is not enough to make proper observational conclusions, the other non-physical aspects and my own sight combined over a few months of my attendance with her group is how I based my judgement...

I tried a couple of times to set up a private session with her and the entity as she offered this but both times she fell ill and canceled our appointment...Soon after that I left that region and never saw her again...

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How do you know she was not self-inducing borderline epileptic fit? Epileptic people can have very strong visions and it's simply an illness.

My observational conclusion about her 'falling ill' twice would be about what you'd expect.

@Dejan Corovic has a point about epilepsy. I think that the majority of mediums are really there with a wink and a nod and it's entertainment. Some are more interested in winking and nodding at your wallet than actually putting on a decent front. The one I dealt with was so accustomed to being considered a fixed channel to the Other Side that he couldn't even be bothered with providing decent schtick. Naturally the day I was there there was some attenuation ..... maybe the circuit was established but with a high loss rate .... in need of after hours maintenance.

Not saying the one you met was epileptic but sensing a presence and some of the other odd things really can relate to physiological conditions. In the medium that is, which is either allowing her to really communicate with Something or at least put on a convincing show.

If your behavior is inside the bell curve it's considered normal. Outside the curve you have a condition with a long name. Outside the curve and way before anybody invented the curve or the names and you're the village witch doctor or shaman.

I've read about mediums who claim quite a few things, and I've read about double blind tests conducted at universities that supposedly sort out who's who. Don't know what to believe. Or more accurately, DO know what to believe but would rather not 'cause it's more fun to speculate about what's just outside the circle of light the campfire makes.

Long waiting lists and lots of $$ - hello George Anderson - turn me off. A bit like UFOs eh? So many fakers, so much nonsense and yet we are compelled to keep sorting through the pile thinking we missed something important.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I think that the majority of mediums are really there with a wink and a nod and it's entertainment.

I am not necessarily saying that she is deliberately acting. Many people like that sincerely and strongly believe into what they do. It's just that she, under right conditions, maybe can work herself into a borderline condition which is between normality and just under the threshold of a mild epileptic fit. Something like mood change or meditation etc.

Some modern psychologists say that Moses was showing signs that he was epileptic, because he had many daytime visions, like burning bushes etc.
 

ChrisIB

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Just read Daniel Fry's two books on physics, Steps to the stars and Atom, Galaxies and understanding.
let us pause here long enough to examine the facts and to point out the differences in the properties of inertial and Newtonian mass.

All physicists of today are agreed that the electron has mass. Yet if it were possible for us to hold an electron between two of our fingers and then suddenly release it, we would find that there was not the slightest tendency for the electron to fall to the earth (unless the surface happened to be positively charged at the moment). The electron is not in the least affected by the gravitational field of the earth, so long as it is at rest with respect to that field (if the electron is moving through the field, however, the direction of the motion will be affected).

The electron has mass only because it has an electric charge. As we know, when an electric charge is accelerated in space, a magnetic field is produced, and energy is required to produce this field. The energy 'spent' in producing this field, is said to be the 'mass' of the electron, since it is the entire cause of its resistance to acceleration. The greater the degree of acceleration, of course, the more intense the field, and the greater the amount of energy required to produce it.
the attraction, called the binding energy, which exists between the Newtonian particles, (the protons and the neutrons) is intense almost beyond our ability to describe. This force, however, does not increase uniformly with increasing mass, but at certain points not only reaches zero but actually becomes negative.

We can demonstrate this fact by adding a single unit of Newtonian mass, a neutron, to the nucleus of an atom of Uranium 235. When this is done, we find that the gravitational force within the nucleus, instead of increasing actually becomes negative, that is, the attraction between its parts becomes a repulsion, and the parts begin to separate with considerable brisance.
Of course, we hear at once the objection that, while negative gravitational fields have been shown to exist, they have been found only within the atom and at inter-galactic distances. How can we place a space ship within the negative portion of the curve, with respect to the earth? The answer to this question lies in the fact that, as we have already learned, the natural laws are not absolute, but relative. That is, the size and shape of the curve of one law is dependent upon the value and position of the others. We have seen that the nucleus of the atom of uranium 235 dips below the zero line with the addition of only one mass unit, making a total of 236, yet the nucleus of the atom of uranium 238, although close to the zero line is still on the positive side of the curve because of the fact that the shape of the gravitational curve is modified not only by the mass present but also by the number and position of the electrical charges.
Is it being suggested that the inertial gravity of electrons can be used to manipulate the shape of a gravitational field to the negative?
 
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