Global Cooling or Global Warming?

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    This is crazy. I thought maybe this was a hoax. Do they do this normally in the winter when the temperatures get so low or is this abnormal?

    I do have a serious question for you Nivek.

    Lets say that we indeed are heading into a "little winter" or whatever it's called (a mini ice age). Is it possible that the human activity of increasing temperature is greater than the natural cycle of getting colder, and the ultimate result is global warming, even though you are correct in pointing out that we are heading in the colder age?

    Analogy: if it's getting cold outside when it gets dark, but I put my central air on and heat up my house (or fireplace) won't I change the net temperature for myself and stay cozy despite the freezing night temperatures?

    Stepping outside of you believe either way, this analogy does seem valid.
     
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    All this has happened many times before in the past with climate changes , its called Planetary Action. Just people were not around then to see it . As if what we do could actually change the weather. The planet does this without our help up or down hot or cold.
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    I see what you're saying and it seems to me a comparison would need to be made between the total cubic meters of space we artificially heat and the total cubic meters that are cooled from natural sources...If we are heating more cubic meters of space than the weather of earth is cooling then it could be possible, so the question is, are humans covering and warming enough cubic meters of air space to tip the cooling trend and prevent an ice age?...We have to also take into consideration and count the air space above the oceans as well as the air space above land so it seems that currently we are not heating enough space to counter any short term cooling trend that may result in an ice age...The earth also has its own natural warm spots during an ice age, the equator I believe is always warm or hot during such events and I think even adding that factor in with our artifical heating that it still wouldn't be enough to tip the cooling trend back to a warming one...That being said I guess it could be possible to turn the cooling trend into a warming trend if we could heat enough cubic meters of air space artificially, but I think it would promptly turn itself back into a cooling trend naturally...Short term warming trends seem to trigger short term cooling trends and vise versa, but if I remember what @Castle-Yankee54 said before, the earth is in a long term cooling trend, so I think short term changes to our climate doesn't really affect the overall tendency or trend that the planet is headed into...

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    Earth has been completely covered in ice in the ancient past.

    Ancient Earth froze over in a geologic instant | Science | AAAS
     
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    Earth’s climate is cyclical: It’s not warmth we need to fear but the ferocious cold of the next glacial period

    Geologist and earth scientist Professor Ian Plimer says the “climate is cyclical” as a new climate alarmist study claims Earth is heading to an ice age.

    This interview with Professor Plimer was in response to a Cardiff University study saying that melting icebergs in the Antarctic could actually trigger an ice age. Professor Plimer dismantles the alarmist rhetoric and exposes the hypocracy.

    What’s going on is cycles,” says Professor Plimer. “It’s normal to have cycles…. we are getting towards the end of a warm period. The peak of the warmth was about 5,000 years ago and we are headed for the next inevitable – inevitable! – ice age.

    “Now, I know it will be on a Tuesday, I just don’t know which Tuesday.”

    For you to think you can actually control what happens on the planet means you have an ego incommensurate with your knowledge.

    What about carbon dioxide?

    We’ve had six major ice ages interspersed with warming,” says Plimer, and “every single ice age started when we had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than we have now.

    When it comes to today’s warmth, “to use the word ‘unprecedented’ shows that you have expunged history and geology from your knowledge.

    And to use the words ‘climate emergency’ indicates that you have absolutely no knowledge about the past.

    Unprecedented now means it hasn’t happened in the last 20 years instead of the last 5,000 or 6,000 years,” laughs the host.

    It’s not warmth we need to fear but the ferocious cold of the next glacial period.

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    Unprecedented arctic blasts to deep freeze North America, Europe and Asia SIMULTANEOUSLY now!

    Look at these satellite images. They clearly show extreme cold air engulfing North America, Europe and Asia simultaneously…

    This really looks like patterns from a Grand Solar Minimum and Mini Ice Age. And there are no signs of warming ahead!

    North America

    North America is now on course for something widespread truly historic. CNN even claiming: This week’s polar vortex will be cold enough to freeze antifreeze.

    As of Friday, Feb. 5 bitter cold will begin descending into the United States, and by next Monday/Tuesday the majority of the country will see itself engulfed:

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    Arctic blast north america february 2021.

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    And here a forecast for the next 10 days. The extreme cold temperatures will station over North America until Feb. 17th, according to latest GFS runs:

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    And as you may probably understand, this arctic blast will be accompanied by heavy to unprecedented snow.

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    Europe

    looking at the Old Continent, we have the same story.

    By Tuesday, February 9, vast areas, particularly in the northern, central and western regions, will begin suffering temperatures 8°C to 20°C below the winter average:

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    The cold will only intensify in eastern regions over the following days, of course large amounts of snow:

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    Asia

    Asia has been struggling with its own Big Freeze since end of December 2020, with animals freezing in places in Kazakhstan and parts of Siberia experiencing their longest cold spell in 14 years.

    The brutal chill, unfortunately, isn’t expected to lift anytime soon as blizzard after blizzard hit those areas:

    Look at the guys trying to brave that furious wind. OMG:





    Southern Hemisphere

    The southern hemisphere also experiences temperatures below average.

    And looking ahead, Australia, South America, and Africa will all, for the large part, continue to suffer anomalously cool temps:

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    Yes, it’s even cold across the Pacific and Atlantic islands. Right now cold temperatures and arctic blasts are the reality of our climate. The cold times are returning and you better get prepared for it. Be ready!

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    It is global climate change. The ice melts in the arctic and antarctic, causing the ocean currents to slow because of more fresh water pouring into the oceans, which causes extreme weather, both heat and cold. Heavier winds, stronger and more frequent hurricanes, tornados etc. Then like that book superstorm the northern hemisphere gets an extreme snow and ice storm while the southern hemisphere experiences an extreme heat wave. Places experience severe droughts and others severe floods. It has been happening for a while and will only get worse.
     
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    Anomalous cold weather and deep late March snow engulf strange parts of the globe

    Hemkund Sahib, a Sikh place of worship and pilgrimage site in Chamoli district, Uttarakhand, India is buried under snow:



    World-rare Atlantic cedar trees, clad in white … from the heights of Theguentest, Algeria



    Snow seen falling on Taiwan’s Yushan



    Rare Spring snow in Istanbul, Turkey



    Heavy snow in late March hits Jiuzhaigou National Park, China



    First week of spring sees plenty of fresh snow on Mount Hood, Oregon – up to 17 inches



    Colorado snow totals for March 22: 10-plus inches in the Colorado Springs area



    Late snowfall hits the island of Mallorca, Spain



    Up to 2 feet of fresh snowfall in late March for north Kashmir



     
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    Looks like some very cold weather is coming your way @AD1184 @1963


    “INSANE DEPTH OF COLD” TO BLAST BRITAIN [IN APRIL], AS SEA ICE AT BOTH POLES CONTINUES TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY

    An “insane depth of cold” is set to strike the UK over the Easter weekend, warns the Weather Outlook’s Brian Gaze. Freezing temperatures and frosts will arrive in Scotland on Thursday, April 1, with “polar spring” conditions engulfing the majority of the country by Good Friday.

    Looking further ahead, the mercury is expected to sink even lower during the following week, as a violent kink in the jet stream (associated with the historically low solar activity we continue to experience) delivers Arctic air to the lower-latitudes. Thermometers could sink to -10C (14F) in northern parts, which would topple all-time daily cold records.

    The UK’s lowest-ever recorded temperature for April 5, for example, is the -9C (15.8F) set in 1990, while 1935’s -8.9C (16F) for April 7 could also tumble. In fact, most of the daily benchmarks between early-to-mid April are under threat, including some that have stood for more than a century.

    What’s about the hit the UK (as well as western/northern Europe) looks unprecedented, and it’s arriving during a key time of the growing season, too — expect significant crop losses moving forward.

    The freezing conditions aren’t fleeting either (unlike the two days of warmth on Mon and Tue); no, the Arctic looks set to park itself anomalously-far south for at least the first-half of April, with latest GFS runs revealing temps will only drop further as the month progresses.

    April 13 (shown below) appears particularly cold, with -10C (14F) again possible in northern parts–a reading that would break the UK’s coldest-ever temperature for the date, which stands as the -9.2C (15.4F) set way back in 1890 (note: this particular forecast is a way off, we’ll have to wait and see if it materializes).

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    GFS 2m Temp Anomalies for April 13 [tropicaltidbits.com].

    Record out–of-season snow is expected to accompany the cold, across Europe:

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    GFS Total Snowfall March 29 to April 14 [tropicaltidbits.com].

    This is April, right?


    SEA ICE AT BOTH POLES CONTINUES TO GROW EXPONENTIALLY

    Antarctic sea ice fell to a “record minimum” in 2017 –after having reached a “record high” in 2015– but has been on something of a surge ever-since — a fact the AGW cabal is having an impossible time explaining.

    Modern climate science states that “because the Earth’s polar regions are warming more quickly than the rest of the world, the temperature contrast that drives jet streams has decreased” which makes for a wavy jet stream flow. But in reality, satellite data reveals that sea ice extent around the southern pole has actually GROWN over the past 40+years, and also shows that temperatures across the continent have had no real trend.

    According to the AGW cabal’s ‘Polar Amplification’ theory, Antarctica should be mirroring the trends seen in the Arctic: i.e., warming global temperatures should be melting sea ice exposing the darker sea beneath, absorbing the heat and increasing temperatures. But, as hinted at above, this simply isn’t happening; furthermore, polar outbreaks in the southern hemisphere (aka a weak and wavy jet stream flow) are also on the increase, just as they are in its northern counterpart.

    Therefore, there must be an alternative explanation.

    And our supposition is that it’s the Sun what’s doing it.

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    The Yukon phenomenon: record Whitehorse snow nearly 300 percent of normal


    Tuesday, April 6th 2021, 6:00 am - Even taking into account the city's Arctic locale, this past winter was epically snowy for the Yukon capital. It snowed before Halloween, and it never really stopped snowing.

    As of April 5th, there's 70 cm of snow on the ground across Whitehorse, Yukon; for the city of an estimated 33,285, it's a tremendous amount – the most on record for April 4th.

    For reference, the snowpack usually peaks around 30 cm of snow, and by late April, the snow base remarkably diminishes to near zero. The sheer resiliency of the Yukon snowpack is quite peculiar.

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    The region was even greeted by a rare atmospheric river back in early December. It's typical to get a meandering jet stream in La Niña conditions, along with above-normal precipitation across parts. The atmosphere essentially behaved like an El Niño for January, limiting the amount of frigid air available in the region; when the active storm track kicked in, excess moisture moved into Yukon. It rarely was too cold to snow.

    It's not a record deep snowpack, mind you. That goes to 1972, where 94 cm accumulated on the ground.

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    With temperatures expected to remain quite chilly over the next couple of weeks, some of the snow might inevitably survive the first couple of weeks of May.

    A formidable shot of January-like cold is en route to Alaska and parts of northern Canada this weekend. Although the odds are low, Anchorage might see the chilliest temperature of the season – extraordinarily rare for April.

    Expect to see a temperature below -20°C by Saturday a.m.

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    Contrary to popular belief, sea ice at both poles is growing, not shrinking

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    Antarctic sea ice extent – End of March 2021 - Please note that the great blob of white (sea ice) extends past the orange line in many areas. The gains are clear, particularly around the SW.


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    Antarctic sea ice fell to a “record minimum” in 2017 – after having reached a “record high” in 2015 – but has been on something of a surge ever-since — a fact the AGW cabal is having an impossible time explaining.

    In reality, satellite data reveals that sea ice extent around the southern pole has actually GROWN over the past 40+years, and also shows that temperatures across the continent have had no real trend.

    Polar outbreaks in the southern hemisphere (aka a weak and wavy jet stream flow) are on the increase, just as they are in its northern counterpart.

    The latest data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) shows that sea ice at the South Pole has been on overdrive this season, climbing some 500,000 sq km above the mean, comfortably outstripping all four multidecadal averages: 1979 to 1990, 1991 to 2000, 2001 to 2010, and 2011 to 2020.

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    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/

    See the blue line? As of the end of March, Antarctic sea ice extent was definitely above average.

    Four years ago, during late-March of 2017, Antarctic sea ice measured 3 million sq km, and now, at the end of March 2021, measurements have reached 5+ million sq km. This should be an impossibility under the global warming theory, yet here we are – an increase of 2 million sq km.

    By the way, Arctic sea ice volume (or ‘thickness’) is also doing just fine this year.

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    See the black line on the graph? At the end of March, Arctic sea ice volume was higher than either 2017 or 2018. (Larger version of the graph here.)

    For good measure, here’s the latest satellite image of Arctic sea ice extent:

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    This, after 4+ decades of being told Arctic ice is on the verge of a catastrophic tipping point, is where we stand — that orange line showing ice extent is close enough to the 1981-2010 median to be statistically irrelevant.

    Furthermore, the gains witnessed across Antarctica easily offset the “missing” ice in and around the Arctic.

    The COLD TIMES are returning, the mid-latitudes are REFREEZING in line with the great conjunction, historically low solar activity, cloud-nucleating Cosmic Rays, and a meridional jet stream flow (among other forcings).

    Both NOAA and NASA appear to agree, if you read between the lines, with NOAA saying we’re entering a ‘full-blown’ Grand Solar Minimum in the late-2020s, and NASA seeing this upcoming solar cycle (25) as “the weakest of the past 200 years”, with the agency correlating previous solar shutdowns to prolonged periods of global cooling here.

    It’s a cycle, it’s a cycle, it’s a cycle, and we (humans) have absolutely no control in the matter.


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    The Grand Solar Minimum will last until 2070

    A periodic solar event called a “Grand Solar Minimum” has started in 2020 and will probably last until 2070.

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    During this period, the sun’s magnetic field is weak, allowing extra cosmic rays into the solar system. All in all, we will enter a cooler time period… And this cold spell may last up to 50 years…

    During a solar minimum, and particularly, a Grand Solar Minimum, more cosmic rays (CRs) enter Earth’s atmosphere.

    These particles act as cloud nuclei by ionization and propagate low level cloud formation. Some cosmic rays may reach the Earth’s surface and even penetrate it, increasing the intensity and numbers of:

    • Storm, hurricane, cyclone, typhoon,
    • Downpours,
    • Snowstorms and blizzards,
    • Tornadoes,
    • Hail,
    • Flooding and flash floods,
    • Global cooling,
    • Earthquakes,
    • Volcanoes,
    • Lightning, other lightning events
    • Unprecedented solar flares

    Grand Solar Minima and their related cooler phases are historically linked to drought, heat waves and wildfires due to extreme jet stream disturbances.



    During the Little Ice Age, temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere declined by only 0.6°C (1.1°F) relative to the average temperature between 1000 and 2000 CE, but brutal frost and snow events led to devastating crop failures.

    A Grand Solar Minimum occurs approximately every 200 years. The last notable event was the Dalton Minimum c. 1790 – 1820, which was followed by the end of the Little Ice Age, the 2nd Industrial Revolution, unprecedented demographic increase and the beginning of the modern global warming trend (which began c. 1850 and lasted until c. 2000). [Facebook]

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