Global Cooling or Global Warming?

Discussion in 'The Natural World' started by nivek, Aug 17, 2017.

  1. nivek

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  2. dr wu

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    Now that's an intelligent response.....if you can't support the person or info post a funny irrelevant pic.
    I would think any 'intelligent' person would ask hard questions when people start spouting stuff especially on you tube, but then...I could be wrong.
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  3. nivek

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    I think an intelligent person would look at all the data that's presented first before attacking the messenger and discounting everything over one video and by the way you've used a similar picture in one of the political threads most recently a very intelligent response as well or lack thereof...

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    Please by all means post all the data....I'll wait. We can pretend we know what the experts have to say on the 'coming ice age'. (We have all been inundated with this kind of data for some years now) My comment was about that one person...and his credibility and agaenda. . Yet I didn't get ay response on that. Please feel free to defend him and show how he is correct and how he knows these things. Which there is plenty of conflicting info on....which was my point. And he is selling merch from it...does that not bother you just a little? I think people are way way too quick to accept these self styled prophets on you tube and other social platforms.

    And yes , mea culpa, I did use a similar pic but in a different context.
     
  5. nivek

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    I suggest you start with all the links of data provided in the description of the video that I guess you really didn't watch because the commentator which you've quickly attacked actually says not to listen to his words but review all the data he has provided to come to your own conclusion...Imagine that, suggesting one think for oneself...

    I've been stating similar things for 10 years since I have actually done research on this subject for many years...The data I've posted is all over this forum and not just in this thread and in many old threads in Alien Hub when I was there posting...If you think you have a pulse on what's happening in the world then there's obviously nothing you can learn here and perhaps it's best you move along and allow others to come to their own conclusions instead of trashing this thread with disbaraging comments that are immature in their conclusions because you really haven't looked at any of the data at all...If you're looking for a 5 minute spoonfed version it's not going to happen...If your cup is half full and you really want to know you will do some of the research yourself, this thread alone is full of information and data as well as the many links of data provided by the video you were quick to trash...I'm not defending the guy, I don't have a personal stake in his affairs but the information is worth researching, if you don't want to that's your choice...

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    I did watch the video...his data was confusing and not well documented regarding sources imho and no offense meant but neither you nor I are are experts on this (no matter how much data you think you have read), and we can only guess at whether a specifc scientific stance is right or not regarding this ..unless you have specific degree in this area? I have a BS and OD and spent 7 years at University studying mostly science and science related courses...not bragging here but the point is I have trouble understanding what they are talking about in this area...so I can imagine someone who has a degree in a non science area getting this, be they smart or not. 'Something' might be going on but it seems there is no real agreement and sadly it has even become political. I'm certainly not trying to stifle discussion in this thread and I now realize that you were just posting a video and not endorsing his ideas.
    I did come down a bit hard on this man ,but again my problem is that most on you tube, and I don't think he is any different from what I read on this man, are just touting their own opinions and not necessarily good ones either.
    Again...my point was that we should not trust someone simply because they have an idea to sell or promote on you tube.
    But as you said...people can make up their own minds but....caveat emptor is the phrase of the day here.
     
  7. nivek

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    The past average temperature for this region is 69 degrees Fahrenheit for this time of year...

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    Santa Catarina, Brazil logs its third consecutive day of rare Snow and sub-zero Cold



    Santa Catarina recorded snowfall in Urupema and Sao Joaquim on Wednesday — the third consecutive day of the rare phenomenon, which also included unusually chilly sub-zero temperatures.

    Santa Catarina is the southernmost state of Brazil. Temperatures across the state have plunged to a record-challenging -7.5C (18.5F), and beyond, this week, and heavy snow has been registered.

    According to the Information Center of Environmental Resources and Hydrometeorology of Santa Catarina (Epagri / Ciram), this is the first year since 2000 that snow has been recorded on three consecutive days.

    As reported by riotimesonline.com, plunging temperatures and favorable humidity levels have brought substantial accumulations of snow to the towns and cities located in and around the Santa Catarina Mountains.


    Locals have been waking to find their cars, lawns, and roads blanketed under layers of global warming goodness as a violent Antarctic front continues to dominate South America’s weather.

    Bone-chilling lows have accompanied the snow — cold which sank thermometers to a record-challenging -3.9C (25F) in Bom Jardim da Serra, -3.45C (25.8F) in Urupema, -2.13C (28.2F) in Urubici, and -1.6C (29.1F) in São Joaquim, according to Epagri / Ciram data.

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    GFS 2m Temp Anomalies (C) [tropicaltidbits.com].

    The Antarctic continent has been holding unusually cold this year — some 10C colder than normal, in fact.

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