How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

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  1. nivek

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    Feeling fine this morning, no more cramping in my arm. that seemed a momentary thing that's passed...

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  2. pigfarmer

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    I think we're going to sign up for a county notification service to let us know what's available and where. Our neighbors just got the Astra Zeneca shot with no ill effects. No idea if they should have had that particular flavor or not but they seem happy with it. Good news is they didn't have to travel too far.
     
  3. nivek

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    Thats not possible because the Astra Zeneca vaccine hasn't been approved for use in the US yet unless they got that vaccine overseas...

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  4. pigfarmer

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    OK. Got the name wrong - just what the neighbor said. I haven't ben paying much attention to the vaccines. Probably should but have total coronaburnout
     
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  5. Standingstones

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    I received my second Moderna vaccine shot this morning. I am now in the waiting pattern. My wife had her second shot on last Friday afternoon. She had the chills that evening and then she slept most of the weekend away.
     
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  6. Kaipo

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    My sis got the Corona but dad says its just flu even tho she test positive for the Corona twice. SO that was the big drama over the weekend lots of arguing. Glad I live across town.
     
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  7. michael59

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    I don't understand. Is your dad a doctor?
     
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  8. Kaipo

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    He doesn't believe in the Corona he said the hospitals are liars it's just flu.
     
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  9. pigfarmer

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    Clever.
     
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  10. michael59

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    Can't say I don't believe it exist, but I do have a few doubts about the way it's being handled.
     
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  12. michael59

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    US recommends ‘pause’ for J&J vaccine over clot reports

    These are some intriguing and confounding bits of info about this particular type of clotting, and the counter-reactions to heparin. [​IMG] It seems like there is something interesting to learn here.
     
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  13. nivek

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    Only six people got blood clots out of seven million and allegedly from 6 to 13 days after vaccination...There's been more serious side effects from the other vaccines...

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    I am not concerned at all, stopping J&J vaccinations is more a corporate ploy to make the competition look bad just like last week pausing because a few people got lightheaded, ridiculous...IMO

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  14. nivek

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    Pausing the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is wildly irresponsible

    Use of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine has been paused in multiple states after the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control issued an advisory recommending they do so "out of an abundance of caution." The reason is a tiny handful of unusual blood clotting events — just six of them, to be precise, out of a total of 6.8 million doses administered in the United States thus far.

    This is an incomprehensible decision. As Helen Branswell writes at STAT News, every single clotting event involved a woman aged between 18 and 48 with a condition called thrombocytopenia (or low blood platelets). It isn't even clear yet that the vaccine actually caused the clots — the background rate of this particular kind of clotting is about five per million people, per year.

    Now, of course public health authorities should be vigilant about potential side effects, and they should inform the medical and scientific communities about any troubling data that comes up. It would be understandable to pause a treatment that was just a precaution for some rare disease. But we are still right in the middle of a deadly viral pandemic, and cases are increasing: up from about 55,000 per day in mid-March to 70,000 per day, thanks mainly to an exploding outbreak in Michigan. Deaths are falling, but still coming in at about 750 per day. COVID-19 is a serious disease, even for younger people — indeed, one of the common complications is dangerous blood clots.

    It might be reasonable to recommend that women under 50, or anyone with thrombocytopenia, get one of the other vaccines while scientists try to figure out what is going on. But pausing all use of the J&J vaccine will certainly prevent many thousands of people from getting vaccinated so long as the pause lasts, and will likely do long-term damage to the reputation of all the vaccines. The anti-vaccine crowd on Fox News is going to to go nuts with this, spreading fear and paranoia and increasing the resistance of Republicans to vaccination. This decision is the opposite of caution.

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  15. AD1184

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    The J&J vaccine is very similar to the AstraZeneca vaccine, in that it is a genetically modified adenovirus designed to produce the spike proteins from Covid-19, just like AstraZeneca. It is perhaps not surprising that it would have similar side effects. Of course, you have to balance those against the risk of serious adverse effects if you caught Covid-19, and your chances of catching Covid-19 (also against the risk of you transmitting the virus to other people near to you).
     
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  16. nivek

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    Six people out of Seven million is a percentage of 0.00008571 which isn't much of a risk if the blood clots are associated with the J&J vaccine compared to the risk of what Covid-19 has to offer...

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  17. Standingstones

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    It is the next day after I received my second Moderna shot. Last evening, other than my upper right arm aching, I felt fine. Tuesday morning I woke up and felt super tired. I did get up and get a shower. Then it was back to sleep for about four hours. I seem to be coming around now. Considering what others have gone through I feel lucky that all went well.
     
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  18. Standingstones

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    What I am wondering is this. Sometime down the line most of the people who want the Covid shots will have had them. Knowing human nature people will be shedding their masks, despite what the government or health officials may say. What will happen then? Will things get back to some normalcy or will we linger in some sort of zone where years may pass until the population just gives up on going back to the way things were. What do you all say?
     
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  20. michael59

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    I don't know how it can go back to normal, Standingstones. I think we will have to find a new normal because even the so called "class system" has changed. A lot of people went broke during this and not just business owners. People had to dig into there savings, most thinking it would be short term, now they won't be able to retire when/how they planned.

    The more I think about it the more I see changes happening in the way we work, school, shop, etc.
     
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