How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

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  1. spacecase0

    spacecase0 earth human

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    it is the delay time that worries me.
    by the time there are known cases, there are lots of unknown ones.
    sooner rather than later is likely a very good plan if you are going to go out at some point.
     
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  2. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    That's one of the reasons I'm dreading going to work tomorrow, granted I only have to be there about 4 hours but I'd rather not be there at all...People from all over the surrounding counties work there, the risk factor is greater with a mix like that, IMO...I'll be wearing all my PPE for sure, never imagined I'd have to wear a respirator at work...

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  3. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Well, crap. Odd how the things you value the least become important all of a sudden.

    I have to go back to work today. Came as a surprise and I could have refused but had to make a choice, so I made it. Can't say I'm too thrilled but it was inevitable.
     
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  4. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Give an idiot a megaphone and he will behave like an idiot with a megaphone.

    I'm not on Facebook but my cousin is and I just had a look at his brilliance regarding coronavirus. Amazing how he's appointed himself the arbiter of how things should be done and by who. He actually believes he has a public platform that people turn to for advice - and to some degree he does. He doesn't really understand the Internet and believes he's speaking to a much wider audience than his circle of friends. Why he thinks anyone might listen is a mystery, but some people just bloviate because they can.

    There are a lot of really, really goddamned stupid people in the world. Really, really. We might not all agree here but at least we're a bunch of pretty bright bulbs. This man is a 4 watt night light, if that.
     
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  5. goblin

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    My wife and I are both lucky enough to be able to work from home, so we've both been doing that for the past couple of weeks (maybe three weeks now?)

    There are days when my job certainly doesn't feel very important in the face of all that is going on in the world right now. I suppose that was always true but it's just more in my face of late.

    I am a homebody; my wife is not. I think this is harder on her than me. She needs to see her family in person.

    We are still taking a couple walks a day around the neighborhood, with our dog. That's normal. We can't run any errands though... well... we made one grocery store run awhile back but apart from that are hunkering down. We are OK supply-wise, it just feels weird to not be able to go pick up packing tape or the like when you discover you are out.

    I found out yesterday morning a good friend, a guy who I met in the early '80s and who was my roommate for awhile in the early '90s, and I was in his wedding party and he in ours, is down with apparent COVID-19 symptoms. His wife had them too, just less severe, and posted on Facebook about it. They live about a half an hour's drive north of us and it was concerning of course to hear how they are doing (my friend is not out of the woods yet) but also sobering to realize we could have gotten sick from our grocery errand or otherwise. I think my friend will be OK from what I know of his condition - the doctor told him to stay home so long as he could breathe - he's just really exhausted by any activity, short of breath.

    Prior to learning of this I was really more worried about other people and their behaviors in these times than I was about catching the virus.

    Much as I believe in inertia it's hard for me to believe the world will go back to just how it was before 'after' all this. I'm not ever sure what will constitute after at this point, or when we might achieve it.

    I was chatting with a writer friend yesterday and she was stumped how to handle this pandemic in a book she's working on set in modern times. It casts such a shadow, how do you work around it?

    Anyway thanks for asking and reading and I hope all here are well.
     
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  6. The shadow

    The shadow The shadow knows!

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    Faith: I never really believed in God. But as of late I found myself in St Patricks church. I kneel in the empty pews amongst the trappings of a discarded faith. to cry mostly. not to show weakness. the second time I went a priest was cleaning up. he came over and asked if I wanted him to pray with me. I told him I did not believe in God.
    He asked "why are you here then? "
    we talked long about faith the bible..
    I still have doubts and but also hope..
     
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  7. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    To you, I say this thing. What man possesses no belief?

    What is The Value of Pride in hubris? What is Mental vanity worth?

    I believe, I have Faith, Can anyone here Say I am less for it?

    What is the Pride of hubris worth? The man that says, I will not believe without proof, If this is so, Then what is the Value of Faith? Faith will be tested Because Faith is a belief, One can not always Hide safely in the midst of others when they believe differently than the crowd. Sometimes, You must test your faith.

    I ask you this, There was a time When people would fear me. That I could debate them into humiliation. I was a jackass. I hurt people Because I was a jerk. My Faith Tempers me, It makes the kind of person Who sees other people are peers and friends and brothers. Faith is notable Because faith doesn't just affect you, It affects others around you. Has My Faith in God Diminished me? Or Made me greater? Even in the eyes of my peers.

    What Does a man lose, By believing in something that someone else does not? His pride? What is pride worth? What can it bring someone but misfortune?

    I believe in many things Thomas Does not specifically, however. Thomas respects my mind. What has my Faith Lost me? I have only gained from it. One Guards one's own pride, And they let it lead them to ruin, Or relinquish one's own pride and make more room for what is truly possible.

    I can't change what one believes or doesn't, But I have found By far, there is nothing to lose By having Faith in God. What some foolish person online May say they think less of you? I laugh at this because, No matter what one believes, there is some group of people who think less of them for it. Everyone has to walk their own path, Not follow others in theirs.

    It would be easy to fall in line and Serve others vanity And Deny My Faith, But What would I gain from this? To show That I am a follower of others? every man must follow his own path to follow another puts one in bondage to them who they follow.

    It takes courage to stand out in a crowd and say, I believe differently. And everyone here in this community that is special. is wise enough to admire that.

    What Have I lost here by belief in God? Does anyone here Think the less of me, Or my ability to belt out college graduate-level physics?

    Faith does not diminish the Soul, It Fills it up.
     
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  8. Standingstones

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    The facts seem to suggest that this virus will not be lessening in a couple of weeks time. That is why I trust zero politicians to tell me otherwise. I have this bad feeling that politicians up for re-election will tell you whatever in order to keep the voting public docile.

    There seems to be this notion that the country should sacrifice human lives so that the economy doesn’t totally crash and burn. I guess I am in the group that says stay alive and when the time is right the economy will have to start from scratch and rebuild.

    When I crashed a car I owned my Dad said not to worry. Cars can be replaced, humans can’t be replaced.
     
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  9. Standingstones

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  10. Shadowprophet

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    I'm more worried about the human lives lost and the suffering than the Economy, Economies can be recovered. regardless of how people fear it crashing, We built this economy from nothing, We can do that again. It's the suffering and death that I can't process.
     
  11. pigfarmer

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    Feels a bit weird but everyone seems to be maintaining their distance, plenty of stuff around to sanitize and wash with. Using all the composure I gained at the Vulcan Science Academy to not touch my face. It’s only when you stop that you realize how often you did that without thought.

    I think this is the new ‘now’
     
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  12. Shadowprophet

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    They are claiming that in a worst-case scenario up to 1.7 million people in the U.S could die from this.

    I don't know how much more stress I can take.


    *Edit, My Bad, 2.2 Million. 2.2 Million People in the U.S. Could Die If Coronavirus Goes Unchecked

    Lovely... That's half the population of Kentucky. Sure that's not but a drop in the bucket of the 328 million in the U.S But this is still a catastrophe, unlike anything we have ever seen.

    Look, I realize that the Wize man Stays informed. But I counter that the Fool Is happy, No, I can't do this anymore, I can't keep up with the news and worry myself to death. I'm done. It's bad, I know that, Now I'm going back into my bubble and pretending this was all a bad dream.
     
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  13. Spaceman spiff

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    Its crazy that about a century ago there was the Spanish Flu, and now perhaps something similar in scope if the Coronavirus goes wild. Lets hope and try to make sure it doesnt.
     
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  14. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    I went to work today, intended on staying there about four hours yet it turned into 12 hours but at least I do not have to go back for a few days probably Thursday or Friday for an appearance...North Carolina is a shelter in place State now, which began about four hours ago, I was driving the roads an hour ago and no signs of police and very few cars out, but there's usually very few cars around here anyways lol...My nose has been running since around 2 pm this afternoon, but it could be because of all the tree pollen in the air right now, its thick in this area, had to rinse my car off earlier, it was yellowish, covered in pollen...

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  15. Toroid

    Toroid Founding Member

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    Load up on vitamin C. I heard some doctors are giving patients intravenous vitamin C and it's having positive results.
     
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  16. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Whatever shape the world emerges I hope future policies are not governed by fear, the next generation does not need to have fear driving its pace car, I hope we learn from this and use the knowledge wisely...

    Thanks, its great to see you again, hope you and your family are well...

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  17. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Yeah it must be the pollen - a runny nose happens to be one of the most rare symptoms of this thing; virtually unheard of in fact - which is really weird, but in this case very assuring.

    It would be nice if we started spending at least a billion dollars per year on virology and vaccine research, as Bill Gates suggested years ago.

    Because there's always going to be another pandemic. The sooner we master the creation of safe and effective vaccines for any virus that might come down the pike, the better off we'll all be - frankly it's insane that this hasn't always been a top and well-funded priority, because so many lives hang in the balance, and everything that we've spent decades building is on the line.

    There is no national security as long as we're powerless to stop this from happening again - in fact there's no global security either.

    Imagine how far we could've come in defending ourselves from this kind of thing if we'd dedicated only 10% of our ludicrously bloated military budget to creating a viable defense against viruses over the past 20-50 years.
     
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  18. pepe

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    My thoughts on this situation have altered.

    I have a much more positive feeling after our stabilising the spread and what damage we have done to it so far. I don't know why I feel like this but I think it's number is up as long as we keep doing what we are doing. Not playing down the fact that many more will die but I think our estimations are looking better than we previously guessed.

    I have been breaking curfew, stuck it out for two weeks and my mate who was working nights but also self isolated for the fortnight suggested I go there during the night and smoke big like Bob Marley did. The walk back home at dawn has been my saving, the bird song that has been drowned by traffic is just spectacular.

    The world seems a much better place for me and I'm sure that we have done the right thing and will see this out, ready for a good summer.
     
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  19. pepe

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    Don't take it so hard shadow, we are winning big with plenty more contingency plans to call on. Never lose faith in the our kind and what we can achieve when all on the same page. What we have done so far has taken much critique. I was mad to begin with in how my government was under reacting but now see how those decisions have made a difference and how that exposed my open ended notion that this could go either way, not any more, I think we bagged it.

    Everyone has to put their faith somewhere, yours was in your pocket and waiting.
     
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  20. pigfarmer

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    Lots of comparisons with the Spanish Flu but they're very broad.

    You look at the geopolitical climate post WW1, lots of displaced people and troops being repatriated, having contact with one another way out of the ordinary. Social distancing and isolation - not so much. You probably couldn't come up with a better scenario to spread a virus.

    Hospitals then weren't exactly Rampart General either History of Hospitals To doctors of that era germ theory was about as new to them as the original Star Trek series is to us. Penicillin was still about a decade in the future. Even administering oxygen to a patient was new Breath of life: the evolution of oxygen therapy
     
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