How to solve the UFO mystery

Do you think an alien lifeform has ever visited Earth in a spaceship? (In the past 4 billion years)

  • YES!

  • (Sitting on the fence)

  • NO!


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Filakius

Adept
HOW DO WE SOLVE THE UFO PHENOMENON?
Write in a post, what steps you think are required to solve this UFO thing once and for all.

* If you are a "believer", please be calm and rationally explain what it would take.., without telling "sceptics" to wake-up and just see the facts.
Understand that if UFOs exists, then the Government, NASA, and other scientists would notice.., and for most that is an instant turnoff for further discussion. Also it's not proof or evidence, unless officially stated.

* If you are a "sceptic", please be nice and don't attack "believers" and tell them to wake up and just see the facts. Understand that for UFOs to exists.., the Government must be covering them up in some way.., regardless of how far-fetched it appears. Its a given and cannot be used as proof.


Video footage and eyewitness testimonial evidence are not proof. This is a form evidence.
Humans, radars, cameras, sensors and computers are not infallible.

However, the entire phenomenon can't be dismissed as "brain/computer/camera failures" and hoaxes as "sceptics" do. It cannot all be coincidence without sufficient proof that's the case.

A lack of "sufficient" evidence is also not proof it didn't happen.
It is impossible to get DNA or technology (proof) from an elusive advanced alien craft.

Understand that the "facts" could be real, or could be fake.
There is no weight in the current evidence to make a definitive decision on whether an outside entity has ever visited Earth or not.

What we are looking for is a solution, rather than continuing to discuss past event of witness testimonies, which has been shown to not be sufficient in solving this particular mystery.
 
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Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
Welcome to Alien Expanse, Filakius!

Unfortunately, I believe the only thing that will solve the UFO problem will be for people in the government to start coming forward and revealing all they know. There is no doubt in my mind that many people in world governments have been in contact with aliens. The coverup must stop.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
I'm a strong advocate of shooting one down so we have something to autopsy.

To me that would be conclusive proof.

If it doesn't make a crater (no crash site) it doesn't exist.
 

Filakius

Adept
Unfortunately, I believe the only thing that will solve the UFO problem will be for people in the government to start coming forward and revealing all they know. There is no doubt in my mind that many people in world governments have been in contact with aliens. The coverup must stop.
1) Get military/government to de-classify all UFO related material

I'm a strong advocate of shooting one down so we have something to autopsy.
To me that would be conclusive proof.
If it doesn't make a crater (no crash site) it doesn't exist.
2) Collect physical evidence of technology/lifeform
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
As many on this forum have stated, the US govt should reopen Bluebook in some form. Seems like it was only around for a few years to satisfy an agenda. We need a legitimate version of Bluebook with the resources of the Fed that will seriously investigate UFOs.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
There was a psychologist once I forget his name. But he was an avid ufologist after years of hearing cases from his patients. He surmised the insignificantly small or insufficiently intelligent creatures do not detect greater presences like we would imagine. His synopsis was like this. As we walk down the street, We step on bugs and kill germs and cells break down all day long. And we give it so little thought. If to an invading species of extraterrestrial, we are simply a resource, They may not see fit to acknowledge us. consider this, When we speak to people, We like speaking to individuals that stimulate us intellectually. However, even though some of us won't admit to this. When we encounter someone who is not up to speed on the topic or simply vastly intellectually inferior. We, even though we won't admit to it. completely ignore them. Because there is nothing this person may do to stimulate conversation.

So putting one's pride aside for a moment, We are very interested in meeting extraterrestrials. They, the extraterrestrials may view us. like we view stem cells or germs, They legitimately may have no desire to talk to us on any level.

I think this is something people often overlook on the subject. If the chick doesn't want to talk to you, nothing is going to change that.

In short. They literally may not be interested in talking to us about science and technology. To them, it may be like talking to a baby in the crib. if all they can get from us are Gaas and goos, What stimulation can we offer them in conversation?

We may be cattle to them guys. It's one of many possibilities.
 
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August

Metanoia
Maybe UFOs are nothing more than lifeforms, if that's the case then trying to destroy one of them so we can study it would not be a very good idea conservation wise, they may be an endangered species.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
There will never be any one thing to solve all of the UFO mystery. It is just way too varied and at times complex for that.
Even if say 3 or 4 alien species landed and handed over everything they know that explain the many cases...some cases will still remain, even they will not have a answer for.

If past events and data we have right now can not count for anything then no reasonable solution can be reached. Period.
It becomes a waiting game as to when a species will make open contact. That could be tomorrow or decades from now.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Maybe risk an interstellar war doing that .

That isn't a risk, that is an opportunity.

If past events and data we have right now can not count for anything then no reasonable solution can be reached. Period.

Fine, show me your alien corpse or even better bring it over to my house.

I'll settle for a piece of functioning alien technology.

If you don't have either than what you have doesn't count for anything.

Doesn't mean you are wrong, much like the lack of sightings of the easter bunny don't prove he doesn't exist.

Maybe UFOs are nothing more than lifeforms, if that's the case then trying to destroy one of them so we can study it would not be a very good idea conservation wise, they may be an endangered species.

Well, if they crash but don't burn they might be a lifeform.

However the only difference this makes, is it turns the crash investigation/reverse engineering effort into an autopsy.
 
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SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
That isn't a risk, that is an opportunity.



Fine, show me your alien corpse or even better bring it over to my house.

I'll settle for a piece of functioning alien technology.

If you don't have either than what you have doesn't count for anything.

Doesn't mean you are wrong, much like the lack of sightings of the easter bunny don't prove he doesn't exist.



Well, if they crash but don't burn they might be a lifeform.

However the only difference this makes, is it turns the crash investigation/reverse engineering effort into an autopsy.

No solutions can be reached if no honest data is usable.
I do not have a corpse of alien technology no more than you or anybody else, so really, what is the point to that comment?
 

Filakius

Adept
1) Get military/government to de-classify all UFO related material
2) Collect physical evidence of technology/life-form by attacking

As many on this forum have stated, the US govt should reopen Bluebook in some form. Seems like it was only around for a few years to satisfy an agenda. We need a legitimate version of Bluebook with the resources of the Fed that will seriously investigate UFOs.
3) Re-open government funded investigations conducted by military and scientists
 

Filakius

Adept
Maybe risk an interstellar war doing that .
I agree. We did not send soldiers to the moon. We sent scientists.
Same with Mars I assume. If we saw some colony of apes living there, we would most likely study them hiding from a distance, as not to interfere, or swap diseases etc...

I assume the first alien probes/ships we'd see would be the same, so shooting may not be the best first response.
If they were alien military.., I doubt our weapons would pose a risk at all.

Maybe we can cross that one off the list.

1) Get military/government to de-classify all UFO related material
2) Collect physical evidence of technology/life-form by attacking
3) Re-open government funded investigations conducted by military and scientists

I would like to add;

4) Grassroots community based UFO tracking system

5) UFO Study Guide (Research procedures, recommended readings, case studies etc..)
 
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CasualBystander

Celestial
No solutions can be reached if no honest data is usable.
I do not have a corpse of alien technology no more than you or anybody else, so really, what is the point to that comment?

Well, short of some transcripts of Apollo 11 (which would be hearsay evidence anyway) we really don't have much.

You would think that a UFO would have crashed on someone's private property by now and someone would have a few trinkets.

If someone could dig up some of the incriminating Apollo pictures (there was a thread on that) that would at least be some fuel for the fire.

As it is most UFOs are identified - at which point they become FOs.
 

Filakius

Adept
You would think that a UFO would have crashed on someone's private property by now and someone would have a few trinkets.
I assume the military would jump straight on it.

If I found advanced alien tech today. There could potentially be tech in there that means I could rule the world.
A quantum computer capable of deciphering encryption algorithms or even crypto-currency blockchains taking all money for myself, or hacking military, banking and stock sectors.

Or perhaps there is some advanced weaponry, communications, armour and power sources that could be used for evil if it fell into the wrong hands.

They would be worried about China reverse engineering it first, and becoming vulnerable to attacks.
Farmer Joe would not keep the item for very long and would be told to keep it secret in interest of National Security.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Well, short of some transcripts of Apollo 11 (which would be hearsay evidence anyway) we really don't have much.

You would think that a UFO would have crashed on someone's private property by now and someone would have a few trinkets.

If someone could dig up some of the incriminating Apollo pictures (there was a thread on that) that would at least be some fuel for the fire.

As it is most UFOs are identified - at which point they become FOs.

Yes.
There are a number of crash reports going back over a century or two. But that are reports and reports are themselves data and anecdotal evidence.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
I assume the military would jump straight on it.

If I found advanced alien tech today. There could potentially be tech in there that means I could rule the world.
A quantum computer capable of deciphering encryption algorithms or even crypto-currency blockchains taking all money for myself, or hacking military, banking and stock sectors.

Or perhaps there is some advanced weaponry, communications, armour and power sources that could be used for evil if it fell into the wrong hands.

They would be worried about China reverse engineering it first, and becoming vulnerable to attacks.
Farmer Joe would not keep the item for very long and would be told to keep it secret in interest of National Security.

The solution is an instant garage sale if a UFO crashes on your property to make sure as much technology as possible fell in the right hands.
 
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