Hudson Valley UFO sightings

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  1. pigfarmer

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    Well, if Vinny says so it must be so.

    I skimmed through this. Our expert Vinny establishes his bona fides as an acute observer of the Unknown .... for several minutes .... as a martial arts expert with superb visual acuity. Further, the members of his party seemed to be filled out with equally impressive physical specimens. The incident may have Interrupted their Journey to the Mensa picnic (he was supposed to bring the potato salad)

    He said he worked as a security guard at the New York School for the Deaf. Been there many, many times. I've probably met this guy at some point.

    The interviewer has a face for radio and this account is a rambling memory from 40 years ago. But he's "a pretty credible witness" Oh - and he went to Pelham to report it? Getting a bit out of territory there and awfully close to three major airports. Any record of 'four towns being blacked out ? News to me. His 'friend Frankie' will sort out all the pesky details like newspaper records - efforts so far (none) have not been successful.

    At about the 15:00 minute mark Vinny describes the Triangle as having left/right red and green lights and a yellow one on top. He's from Scarsdale - more than an hour south of where all the activity was. Further south and east of Indian Point. Actually, he's pretty close to where Phil Imbrogno was teaching high school.
     
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    ‘Credible’ Hudson Valley UFO Sighting Makes CBS Evening News

    UFO sightings in the Hudson Valley are receiving extra scrutiny as investigators look into some credible claims.

    You may think that people who believe in little green men from Mars are a bit, ahem, eccentric. But more and more people are taking local claims of UFO sightings seriously.

    We spoke to Chris Deperno from a national organization called MUFON. the Mutual UFO Network consists of scientists, investigators and UFO enthusiasts who look into claims of unidentified flying objects. According to Deperno, the Hudson Valley is a hotbed of activity.

    An investigation is currently underway in Orange County where witnesses claim to have seen a triangle of lights hovering over a lake. MUFON says that credible sources reported that barrels were dumped from the craft into the water before the object disappeared. Deperno and his organization has a team of divers ready to jump in to search for the barrels if his investigation turns up more evidence.

    Recent Hudson Valley UFO activity has even made mainstream news. This week CBS interviewed Deperno and UFO witnesses in Pine Bush.



    If you're interested in learning more about local UFO activity, the annual Pine Bush UFO Fair is taking place this Saturday, May 18 in Pine Bush. MUFON will be on hand to hear claims of sightings and there will be lectures from authors and UFO believers. Aside from educational activities, the day will also be filled with fun. Families can participate in the alien beauty contest, kid activities, games, pop-up street performance and more. Full details are listed on the event's website.

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  3. pigfarmer

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    I'll have a look.
    Making the 2019 Pine Bush UFO shindig is up in the air at them moment, if you'll pardon the expression
     
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    What is that suppose to mean? What are they waiting for? They should have looked for those barrels immediately.
     
  5. pigfarmer

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    Gee, this area has a unique gravitational and magnetic field - so says Linda Zimmerman.
    Well then, maybe I'll try this later
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    And they're here for the water. Because you know, what with most of the planet covered in water this is the place they come to empty their pangalactic septic tank.

    What I heard was a passing reference to a UFO sighting and then those two fat guys talking about themselves, and then a bunch of crapola that got swept into a short filler piece for the evening news.

    Today is the Pine Bush UFO - which I assume is why that story appeared this week and not so much because of another Orange County UFO sighting. Did our two corpulent friends bother to contact the local airports or the two advertising blimp companies that operate in this area?
     
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  7. pigfarmer

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    Agreed. When the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation takes notice so will I. This is the agency that sends forth specialized state troopers into the woods who scare the hell out of you when you're hunting or hiking - checking on tags, permits, etc. Surprised our former major crimes investigator didn't bring that up. You call up the DEC and tell them somebody dumped barrels in a lake and they'll come look see, you betcha
     
  8. nivek

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    The Bizarre UFO Waves of New York’s Hudson River Valley
    By Brent Swancer

    Sometimes UFOs show up in the most seemingly unlikely of places. The area of New York’s Hudson River Valley is known for its quaint, historical beauty, agriculture, and as a prominent winemaking region. Here many educated professionals have their homes in upscale neighborhoods, and it is one of the last places one would expect to be ground zero for some of the most intense UFO activity there is, yet for a few years starting from 1981, the peaceful Hudson River Valley began to gain a reputation as a hotspot for otherworldly phenomena that has generated much discussion to this day.

    The beginning of it all is widely thought to have been on New Year’s Eve, December 31, 1981, when an unnamed off-duty police officer was out in the yard of his home in Kent, New York, with his family just a few minutes before the start of the new year, but this was to prove to be a bit more exciting than usual. Off in the distance they spied a group of red, green, and white lights that were approaching from the south, and which they at fist just took to be a plane. However, as the object approached it could be seen that rather than a plane, the multicolored lights were embedded within a boomerang-shaped craft of some sort, which slowly passed right over their heads at a height of around 500 feet while issuing only an eerie, faint humming sound. On several occasions the lights were reported as shifting from multicolored to an all-white coloration in different patterns, and this was quite obviously no normal aircraft.

    It would turn out that there were many other witnesses to this incident at the time, as on nearby Interstate 84 several motorists also observed the object and were so awed by it that they stopped their vehicles along the road to watch it make its inscrutable journey across the sky. One of these motorists was 55-year-old Edwin Hansen, who would explain that the massive boomerang or V-shaped object was big enough to block out the stars, and could be seen to project some sort of light beam to the ground. Oddly, Hansen would also claim that he had made what he believed to be some sort of telepathic contact with the craft, his mind filled with strange images and thoughts that were not his own and the sensation that something was reading his mind and telling him to not be afraid.

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    This was to prove to be far from a one-off sighting of an unidentified flying object, and the strangeness would resume in February of the following year. On February 26, 1982, a witness by the name of Monique O’Driscoll was driving with her daughter when they saw a strange light in the sky that seemed to take up position over a frozen lake. When they stopped the car they could see that it was a large V-shaped object with numerous red, blue, and amber lights dotting it, as well as an underside crisscrossed by some sort of metal beams. At one point the object seemed to approach them, giving them a bit of a scare, before making its way off into the night. This object would be seen by quite a few other witnesses as well, and the police office would get a deluge of panicked calls at the time. Whatever it was did not seem to be finished frightening the area’s residents, as on March 17, 1983 it was seen again by a few witnesses in Brewster, New York, including by the Deputy Clerk for Putnam County Dennis Sant, who saw it from his home. Sant was left utterly baffled by the bizarre incident, as well as not a little frightened, and he describes what he saw thusly:

    As with the other sightings, it was described as being a large boomerang-shaped craft, around 131 feet long, and more than 330 feet wide, with a multitude of bright red, green, amber and white lights along its fuselage, and it was largely silent. This incident would lead into another just a week later, when the object appeared on March 24, 1983 in the areas of Yorktown and New Castle to set off a whole new wave of sightings. Police began getting a flood of calls from people seeing weird things in the sky, all describing the same V-shaped lighted craft mostly described as being as large as a football field, although there were also reports of smaller objects darting through the sky or even two in different locations at the same time, suggesting there was more than one of them. Among the witnesses were several police officers, and one Officer Andi Sadoff of the New Castle Police explains what he saw as follows:
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    This particular report was supported by another that occurred at exactly the same time, this time the witness being a senior manager for IBM by the name of Ed Burns. He was only about 10 miles away from Officer Sadoff, and says that he was first clued in to something strange going on when his radio started acting oddly. Burns says:

    The ship seemed to generate sightings all up and down the valley on this evening, startling motorists and spotted numerous times by police officers, and the following evening the object was seen by various people yet again. The apperance was always nearly identical; large, descriptions like “as big as a football field” or as large as an aircraft carrier” were thrown around, V-shaped or triangular, the lights studding the exterior. However, interestingly, the reports showed varied behavior for the object or objects, such as that they would shoot beams of light, spin around like a top, shoot away at fantastic speeds, display patterns of colors with their lights, detach what appeared to be smaller craft from the main body, or wink in and out of existence. One witness named Jim Booke, a biomedical engineer, allegedly saw it silently circle over the Croton Falls Reservoir dropping what seemed to be lighted probes into the water and shooting a red beam of light into the reservoir, and indeed the object seemed to often stop over bodies of water. It all left people absolutely baffled, and this time the incident hit the news in a major way, finally catching the attention of UFO researchers Philip J. Imbrogno and J. Allen Hynek, who had been a senior consultant on the Air Force’s Project Blue Book.

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    Imbrogno and Hynek arrived in the area and began interviewing as many witnesses to the UFOs that kept appearing as they could. They also set up a phone hotline for people who had seen the objects and very quickly received hundreds of calls, which along with the floods of calls police had received caused them to estimate that there were perhaps thousands of people out there who had observed the phenomenon on March 24 alone, the majority of these being from along the Taconic Parkway. Many of the witnesses were found to be reliable and upstanding citizens, and all of them described the same enormous boomerang shaped craft. The two researchers became convinced that something very odd was going on, but the police had other ideas.

    According to law enforcement authorities, the whole thing was a prank being pulled by normal ultralight planes or helicopters flying in formation in such a way as to seem more mysterious. The Federal Aviation Administration agreed with this theory, as did officials from nearby Stewart Air Force Base. Supporting the plane theory even futher was a report from an air traffic control specialist named Anthony Capaldi, who also had seen the phenomenon but had come to the conclusion that it was planes in formation. He would say:
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    There was also a certified hoax when some prankish night pilots buzzed over the region in April of 1983, but interestingly most people who saw this formation immediately recognized them as planes, the same of which could not be said of the other waves of sightings. In fact, many of the witnesses insisted that they knew the difference between planes and what they had seen, and refused to believe that the objects were normal aircraft. This, plus the fact that besides the April hoax no one had ever been caught in the act and there were no suspects, as well as the fact that ultralight planes would unlikely be able to remain so silent and pull off the aerial activities witnessed or hold formation so well, and that so many people had reported these UFOs, Imbrogno and Hynek came to the conclusion that planes in formation were not an acceptable explanation.


    In the meantime, the waves of sightings continued, with another on March 31, yet again that summer on July 12, 19, and 24, and yet another the following year on March 25, 1984, each one of these waves generating hundreds of sightings. Some of these reports were rather unsettling, such as a crew at the Indian Point Nuclear Plant, who claimed that the massive craft had hovered over one of the nuclear reactors and caused the facility’s security systems to shut down, which had caused the supervisor to almost have his men open fire upon it, before it suddenly shot off into the night. Even more such sightings flaps would pop up in the coming years until it seemed to stop in 1986. Imbrogno and Hynek would estimate that more than 5,000 people had seen these objects, and they would write an entire book on it titled Night Siege: The Hudson Valley UFO Sightings. They also were able to find some certain idiosyncrasies among all of the data they managed to collect, such as that the sightings were clustered very tightly and seemed to fall on Monday, Thursday, and Sunday nights to a disproportionate degree. what this means is anyone’s guess.

    Considering the sheer number of independent sightings in the Hudson River Valley between 1981 to 1986, the consistency of the reports, and the number of trained observers, as well as the intensity of it all over the course of years, it certainly seems as though, although some people may have tried to imitate it and hoax it, the phenomenon itself remains mired in mystery. Indeed, the UFO flaps of the Hudson River Valley have never really been satisfactorily explained, and are some of the most widely witnessed UFO phenomena ever seen. What was going on here? Was this just misidentified aircraft and hoaxers as the authorities would like us to believe, or is there something more to it all? If these really were visitors from another world, then what did they want and what brought them to this specific place at these specific times? It is likely we will never know, and the mystery remains a classic case within UFOlogy.

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  9. pigfarmer

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    not to me it doesn't x39
     
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    The problem with these stories is the messenger, Philip Imbrogno. It was proved that he lied about where he was educated (he didn’t go to MIT) and although he was in the military, he wasn’t in Special Forces as he claimed. It is thought that the book he wrote with Rosemary Ellen Guiley was pure fiction from his part of the story.

    Hopefully someone will step up and investigate these Hudson Valley UFO stories and get to the bottom of it.
     
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  11. nivek

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    I forgot there was a good thread on this topic so I merged the threads...

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  12. pigfarmer

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    The Amityville Horror is a good example. Murders were real. Jay Anson admitted he made it all the paranormal stuff up over several bottles of wine as fiction. Enter the Warrens. People today still think it’s a portal to Hell. It IS actually, but that’s just how I view Long Island in general
     
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    UFO Encounters & Sightings in the Hudson Valley

    Oct/Thu/2020 7:00 PM - 7:00 PM
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    Phone: (845) 855-1131
    Website: Pawling Recreation
    Address: 2 Lakeside Drive Pawling, NY 12564

    Thursday, October 8
    7:00-8:00 pm


    For over 100 years, residents of New York’s Hudson Valley have been experiencing startling UFO encounters and sightings. From the “mysterious airships” of the early 1900s, to the wave of massive triangles in the 1980s, to fascinating present-day cases, author Linda Zimmermann will present the best evidence from interviews conducted with hundreds of eyewitnesses.

    About of presenter: Linda Zimmermann is a research scientist turned award-winning author of 30 books on science, history, the paranormal, and fiction. She has lectured across the country, and has appeared on numerous TV and radio shows. Linda has three books on Hudson Valley UFOs, and a podcast called UFO Headquarters.

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    NOTE: This presentation will take place at Pawling Recreation at Lakeside Park. Pawling Recreation is located at 2 Lakeside Drive in Pawling. Phone: 845-855-1131.


    Registration is required. Call the Pawling Library at 845-855-3444 to register or send an email to Donald at adult@pawlinglibrary.org.


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  14. pigfarmer

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    A quick drive. If I can get there I will. Same for the Pine Bush UFO festival this year. I ought to dress in a nice MiB suit and borrow an old Caddy for the day .....
     
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