I found a strange thing through collecting relevant UFO sighting or contact cases by myself. I'm not sure if I made a mistake.

[pigfarmer]

Yeah, I find it quite hard to believe that people of good character and good standing, from very small tightly knit provincial communities where everybody gossips about everybody else 24/7, would want to step out of a common way and expose themselves to ridicule, potential job loss and harrasment of children in school, just so that they can bask in media attention about a crazy story.

I would rather say that these are good and honest patriotic people who believe its their duty to report and who want to make authorities aware of a possible threat.

Anyway, work that Nightcrawler. team did practically 100% percent gives material verification to UFO witness testimonials from previous 70 years. All the physical effects that Nightcrawler recorded with instruments are one-on-one matched by previous human observations. If you want it in terms of cort of law, witness testimonials had been corborate with material evidence through Nightcrawler's work.

That only proves alien visitation if you are predisposed to believe that in the first place - confirmation bias. All the Tedescos concluded was that what they quantified was highly unusual and inexplicable yet concrete and that more study is called for. I am very glad they are included in Galileo as it adds credibility they deserve.

The phenomenon also had an interest where they lived, or at least where they park that hunk o' science at night. That sounds more like guy-in-grey-shirt concern than little grey alien concern. It also sounds like tech that can enter and leave a congested urban neighborhood at will - very much like the drones that have been spying in NJ. Wouldn't that be a handy piece of reconnaissance gear? Hence my point.

Bear in mind that people who do not want to be exposed to ridicule are equally apt to just go along with something. I'd imagine being a Roswell native who doesn't believe anything happened isn't going to be the most popular person in town. Go over to Pine Bush during their Festival and talk BS and you won't be getting served too quick in any of their restaurants. Actually, that might be a good thing now that I remember......

 

[Dejan Corovic]

That only proves alien visitation if you are predisposed to believe that in the first place - confirmation bias.

That's just an interpretation. There are tons of material evidence from UFO cases from radars, soil samples, cattle mutilations, micro-wave burns and brain leasons in witness who stood clese enugh, etc. .

It is a situation very similar to that one Gallileo found himself in with Catholic church.

Alghough Gallileo had all the necessary evidence, evidence that's today accepted was back then refused and he was facing harsh panishment for unintentionaly confronting powers to be. All the evidence that is needed to prove UFOs are real had been here for 70+ years, but it is culture that is saying "oh no, that obvious evidence is not the evidence, we muct prefer to keep on keeping our head burried into sand".

What was back then Catholic church, is today Military Industrial Complex. When recently few congresmen orginsed a motion to lift UFO censorship, immediately other congresmen with MIC affiliations stepped in to turn this motion down. If that's not censorship of evidence I don't know what else is.

But, UFOs are officially recognised as real phenomenon in 5 countries, Belgium, France and 3 South American countries whose names I forgot. And in UK official position is "we are aware of phenomenon, but it is not a threat to national security, so we don't want to spend money". In other words recognition of UFO evidence varies throughout the world where US MIC has little influence,

 

[pigfarmer]

I'm not refusing to look, I have looked and don't see what you see. I am not trying to prove a theory about anything, I got no dog in this fight. Ply me with alcohol and I'll say that personally I think yes, they're here and have been a long time and also yeah, we've probably got things under wraps that we don't want public knowledge.

Actual unequivocal proof of that doesn't exist. If it did we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nothing has changed in that regard in my lifetime despite any number of claims.

Take a topic you may have no interest in like cryptids or ghosts or whatever and it looks different. Many believers in topics like those would use virtually the same language regarding various material evidence, eyewitness account yada yada yada. I am convinced Sasquatch are real animals, some undiscovered hominid but not for one second to I take what has been presented to date as 'proof'. That's a dead body, right out pf Grover Krantz's playbook. If you claim to be adhering to empirical science I'd think that would be the goal.

Until some alien equivalent surfaces I have no reason to change that opinion. It's about facts not Belief and if the facts were that solid there would be no debate.

 

[nivek]

It's about facts not Belief and if the facts were that solid there would be no debate.

That's not always necessarily true...Look at the notion of a flat earth, with all the facts smacking them in the face, there are people who do not see the facts as facts and believe the earth is flat...

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[pigfarmer]

That's not always necessarily true...Look at the notion of a flat earth, with all the facts smacking them in the face, there are people who do not see the facts as facts and believe the earth is flat...

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... and yet when one traveled to Antarctica and saw irrefutable evidence he immediately recanted and regretted his own stupidity.

It is entirely possible to present evidence that will overcome ingrained prejudice. With UFOs skepticism is ingrained due to the sheer amunt of pure nonsense and fakery mixed in with real reports. Alien mummies my hairy ass. With Jeremey Corbell on the job should we not weaponize our bullshit filters ? At this stage of the game it's going to take something far more dramatic that innuendo and suggestion.

I say the standard of evidence is necessarily higher and an explanation that everyone, even grandma, can understand is what would finally push this into the forefront of public opinion. Problem is those who have been looking at this longest are the ones scratching their heads talking about consciousness, not nuts and bolts and there is no simple explanation to be had.

When I hear about alien tech and bodies I need someone to remind me this is 2025 and not 1995 because we are hearing about the same thing all over again, as if those that really do have something to hide are content with the status quo. AARO does not appear to be in any danger of upsetting that any time soon.

Disclosure is not imminent, it's the bogus bunny that greyhounds chase at the racetrack.

 

[Alien UFO]

I have been wondering whether there is any connection between the drone incident at Tianjin Airport and the current drone incident in New Jersey, USA. The Chinese government also said that drones caused flight delays in the Tianjin Airport incident. Many people claimed to have photographed those drones (most of which were unclear blurry light spots or something like that). These things are said to have appeared over Tianjin for several consecutive days. Who on earth released these drones and actually caused flight delays? I don't think anyone dares to do so as this kind of behavior will be severely punished in China. However, this incident lost its influence on the Internet after one month. As a result, the drone incident in New Jersey has occurred in the United States since December 2024... Maybe there is really a connection between the two.

 

[pigfarmer]

this kind of behavior will be severely punished in China

Most of us over here have little understanding of what China is like but I don't doubt for an instant that 'severe punishment' means something much more immediate and direct than it does over here. It makes me wonder what individual(s) would accept such a risk when the goal appeared to be only to irritate a commercial airport. Whatever the goal was it apparently justified that significant risk.

As I said before, the same thing happened here at Stewart-Newburgh (SWF) very recently. This is New York but northern New Jersey is close by. Same intent but believe me, the drone operators over here are most definitely not sharing the same risk as their China based counterparts.

Of course, some people are just plain stupid and that's a factor often overlooked but I don't get the sense that's the case here. Too organized. I smell a state actor not ET in this case, the tech is too familiar.

Another thing we have in common. All the fuss dropped out of the news cycle entirely, as if on purpose. Granted our news cycle can be measured in minutes but this went away a little too fast and I am suspicious.

 

[pigfarmer]

Achtung baby. About time someone did this.

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